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Posted: April 28, 2015, 2:35 am - IP Logged

I don't know if this is the right place (forum) for this.

No matter how the winning numbers are produced, you (we) want to win and the state doesn't want too many people to win or anybody to win too much and or too often.

People are not playing just against the lottery machines, but also against people, because the state also wants to win and they always want to win very big.

They say that the lottery balls have no memory and that one number doesn't have anything to do with any other number so then one draw should not have anything to do with any other draw and that the odds should always be the same no matter what has happened before in view of that it should be possible for a winning number to never come out or to come out always (all of the time) forever (the very same number) and for no other numbers to ever come out.

While not very likely to happen, it should be possible as a new draw is a new draw and doesn't have anything to do with any other draw and as all the numbers should have an equal chance to come out no matter what came out before on another draw.

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Of course, what statistically should come out the most often, that should have the greatest chance to come out always and or at any given time, for example on the pick 3 singles should come out more often than doubles.

Perhaps should, but as anything is possible they might not.

The past draws themselves tell us what really happens, but was has happened might change in the future or not or might change some.

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This is all for this first post.

Don't think that I am posting for anybody in particular or I might be, (maybe posting for my own self).

This is all for tonight, I might make a few more posts on this thread some other time and maybe take a look at some past winning numbers.

People can post or not as they like.

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    I don't know if this is the right place (forum) for this.

    No matter how the winning numbers are produced, you (we) want to win and the state doesn't want too many people to win or anybody to win too much and or too often.

    People are not playing just against the lottery machines, but also against people, because the state also wants to win and they always want to win very big.

    They say that the lottery balls have no memory and that one number doesn't have anything to do with any other number so then one draw should not have anything to do with any other draw and that the odds should always be the same no matter what has happened before in view of that it should be possible for a winning number to never come out or to come out always (all of the time) forever (the very same number) and for no other numbers to ever come out.

    While not very likely to happen, it should be possible as a new draw is a new draw and doesn't have anything to do with any other draw and as all the numbers should have an equal chance to come out no matter what came out before on another draw.

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    Of course, what statistically should come out the most often, that should have the greatest chance to come out always and or at any given time, for example on the pick 3 singles should come out more often than doubles.

    Perhaps should, but as anything is possible they might not.

    The past draws themselves tell us what really happens, but was has happened might change in the future or not or might change some.

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    This is all for this first post.

    Don't think that I am posting for anybody in particular or I might be, (maybe posting for my own self).

    This is all for tonight, I might make a few more posts on this thread some other time and maybe take a look at some past winning numbers.

    People can post or not as they like.

    i understand what you are saying, but the lottery is numbers, and numbers involve math.one can use math to at least try to predict what numbers might appear. which is were the "Gambling" part of the lottery comes in. we are all trying to guess best and lottery officials are not against that. so its a two way sword.

    Mathematics can help you determine fact. simple example is one of my last post i made: If the last three draws were all 9 unique digits. & you know in pick three there are three open sluts in the next draw. you can bet that one of those numbers come back because its 9 out of the 10. & three spots to fill. 

    there are also many mathematical facts one can gain from looking at previous draws no matter how stupid it might seem at first.

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      i understand what you are saying, but the lottery is numbers, and numbers involve math.one can use math to at least try to predict what numbers might appear. which is were the "Gambling" part of the lottery comes in. we are all trying to guess best and lottery officials are not against that. so its a two way sword.

      Mathematics can help you determine fact. simple example is one of my last post i made: If the last three draws were all 9 unique digits. & you know in pick three there are three open sluts in the next draw. you can bet that one of those numbers come back because its 9 out of the 10. & three spots to fill. 

      there are also many mathematical facts one can gain from looking at previous draws no matter how stupid it might seem at first.

      Hello!

      There are 10 digits from 0 up to 9 for each of the 3 exact positions.

      For just 1 of those 3 positions, each of those 10 digits, has a 1/10 chance to come out.

      For all 3 positions, each of those 10 digits might have:

      1/10 X 1/10 X 1/10 = 3/10 chance to come out in 1 of those 3 straight positions.

      Maybe 3/10 = about 33% or about 1/3 (1 out of 3).

      But I don't know anything, so I might be wrong.

      By the way, thanks much for posting!

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      Maybe more tonight Tuesday.

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        I think that they are about 40 past draws.

        First I am going to count the singles and the doubles (beware of mistakes if any).

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        Tue, Apr 28, 2015    1-3-2 Single
        Mon, Apr 27, 2015    2-0-2 Double 1
        Sun, Apr 26, 2015    7-7-0 Double 2
        Sat, Apr 25, 2015    4-0-1 Single
        Fri, Apr 24, 2015    5-7-6 Single
        Thu, Apr 23, 2015    0-1-9 Single
        Wed, Apr 22, 2015    2-0-0 Double 3
        Tue, Apr 21, 2015    0-0-2 Double 4
        Mon, Apr 20, 2015    6-2-5 Single
        Sun, Apr 19, 2015    7-4-4 Double 5
        Sat, Apr 18, 2015    3-4-9 Single
        Fri, Apr 17, 2015    3-5-6 Single
        Thu, Apr 16, 2015    1-3-2 Single
        Wed, Apr 15, 2015    4-8-9 Single
        Tue, Apr 14, 2015    0-5-0 Double 6
        Mon, Apr 13, 2015    1-1-7 Double 7
        Sun, Apr 12, 2015    7-0-7 Double 8
        Sat, Apr 11, 2015    5-5-7 Double 9
        Fri, Apr 10, 2015    3-0-9 Single
        Thu, Apr 09, 2015    8-4-8 Double 10
        Wed, Apr 08, 2015    7-3-4 Single
        Tue, Apr 07, 2015    8-1-2 Single
        Mon, Apr 06, 2015    2-7-4 Single
        Sun, Apr 05, 2015    0-2-9 Single
        Sat, Apr 04, 2015    3-8-6 Single
        Fri, Apr 03, 2015    4-0-9 Single
        Thu, Apr 02, 2015    9-2-3 Single
        Wed, Apr 01, 2015    6-9-4 Single
        Tue, Mar 31, 2015    0-5-0 Double 11
        Mon, Mar 30, 2015    2-4-7 Single
        Sun, Mar 29, 2015    3-7-1 Single
        Sat, Mar 28, 2015    0-8-3 Single
        Fri, Mar 27, 2015    1-3-2 Single
        Thu, Mar 26, 2015    6-5-0 Single
        Wed, Mar 25, 2015    3-8-6 Single
        Tue, Mar 24, 2015    5-7-2 Single
        Mon, Mar 23, 2015    8-9-8 Double 12
        Sun, Mar 22, 2015    6-1-4 Single
        Sat, Mar 21, 2015    5-4-6 Single
        Fri, Mar 20, 2015    9-8-7 Single

        There seem to be 12 Doubles, so there must be 28 Singles.

        There are 720 Singles, 270 Doubles and 10 Triples, so the Singles are 72% and the Doubles are 27%.

        On 40 past draws 0.4 is 1%

        So 0.4 X 72 = 28.8 or 29 past draws (rounded).

        So as we can see, on those 40 past draws, the expected 72% for Singles almost came out.

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        That might be a possible indication that this particular pick 3 game is a "fair" game, I said might be, as Singles and Doubles is only 1 thing to check out of many possible things such as Digits, Pairs, Low-High, Even-Odd, Etc.

        Sometimes 1 or more things check out right, but some other things don't check out right.

        The more things that check out right as they should be expected to be, maybe the more of a chance that a particular game might be "Fair" to play.

        That is my own opinion, so it might or might not be correct.

        In the past I already posted this same thing.

        As I said "What really happens is what you (we) see on the past draws".

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        Will post some more on this thread.


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          You have to keep in mind that most to all states have a cap on how much they will pay out... so they always make a profit..

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            You have to keep in mind that most to all states have a cap on how much they will pay out... so they always make a profit..

            correct, that's why if you have a system that works, you sip from the cup.

             

            but also the lottery does more than just make a profit at least in some states. they do contribute to state taxes and also a portion goes to educational scholarships and aid. kinda putting all that money to good use to help progress the state.

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              This is something that maybe I wrote about long ago.

              Even Sums, Odd Sums, Low Sums, High Sums, Etc.

              As always, beware of any mistakes made, if any.

              A short example:

              Tue, Apr 28, 2015    1-3-2 E02 O04 L06 H00
              Mon, Apr 27, 2015    2-0-2 E04 O00 L04 H00
              Sun, Apr 26, 2015    7-7-0 E00 O14 L00 H14
              Sat, Apr 25, 2015    4-0-1 E04 O01 L05 H00
              Fri, Apr 24, 2015    5-7-6 E06 O12 L00 H18
              Thu, Apr 23, 2015    0-1-9 E00 O10 L01 H09
              Wed, Apr 22, 2015    2-0-0 E02 O00 L02 H00
              Tue, Apr 21, 2015    0-0-2 E02 O00 L02 H00
              Mon, Apr 20, 2015    6-2-5 E08 O05 L02 H11
              Sun, Apr 19, 2015    7-4-4 E08 O07 L08 H07
              Sat, Apr 18, 2015    3-4-9 E04 O12 L07 H09
              Fri, Apr 17, 2015    3-5-6 E06 O08 L03 H11
              Thu, Apr 16, 2015    1-3-2 E02 O04 L06 H00
              Wed, Apr 15, 2015    4-8-9 E12 O09 L04 H17

              How to use that?

              Without proper software it might be harder or maybe not possible to use it.

              Stats on those might tell if they can be of any use or not and if they are, in which way or ways they might be of use.

              Right now they might just be a curiosity, unless there already is software for them.

              I don't know yet if I will keep on posting on this thread or not.

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                This is something that maybe I wrote about long ago.

                Even Sums, Odd Sums, Low Sums, High Sums, Etc.

                As always, beware of any mistakes made, if any.

                A short example:

                Tue, Apr 28, 2015    1-3-2 E02 O04 L06 H00
                Mon, Apr 27, 2015    2-0-2 E04 O00 L04 H00
                Sun, Apr 26, 2015    7-7-0 E00 O14 L00 H14
                Sat, Apr 25, 2015    4-0-1 E04 O01 L05 H00
                Fri, Apr 24, 2015    5-7-6 E06 O12 L00 H18
                Thu, Apr 23, 2015    0-1-9 E00 O10 L01 H09
                Wed, Apr 22, 2015    2-0-0 E02 O00 L02 H00
                Tue, Apr 21, 2015    0-0-2 E02 O00 L02 H00
                Mon, Apr 20, 2015    6-2-5 E08 O05 L02 H11
                Sun, Apr 19, 2015    7-4-4 E08 O07 L08 H07
                Sat, Apr 18, 2015    3-4-9 E04 O12 L07 H09
                Fri, Apr 17, 2015    3-5-6 E06 O08 L03 H11
                Thu, Apr 16, 2015    1-3-2 E02 O04 L06 H00
                Wed, Apr 15, 2015    4-8-9 E12 O09 L04 H17

                How to use that?

                Without proper software it might be harder or maybe not possible to use it.

                Stats on those might tell if they can be of any use or not and if they are, in which way or ways they might be of use.

                Right now they might just be a curiosity, unless there already is software for them.

                I don't know yet if I will keep on posting on this thread or not.

                It's a shame that you are not getting much response to your posts.

                Perhaps there would be more interest if you provided the answer to the most important lottery question: What's Next?

                In other words, how does one use full and/or partial permutation data of the type you have presented to generate winning combinations?

                I've seen hundreds of these type tracking charts in the 10+ years that I've been an LP member, but I've never
                found one that told me exactly how to use the information detailed in the chart.

                Without an explanation, the data is in the 'so what' category and of no practical use - in my opinion, of course.

                A question.

                Have you ever wondered how many permutation tracking charts are needed to fully analyze the Powerball and Mega Millions games??
                Too many for me to consider!!!!

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                  It's a shame that you are not getting much response to your posts.

                  Perhaps there would be more interest if you provided the answer to the most important lottery question: What's Next?

                  In other words, how does one use full and/or partial permutation data of the type you have presented to generate winning combinations?

                  I've seen hundreds of these type tracking charts in the 10+ years that I've been an LP member, but I've never
                  found one that told me exactly how to use the information detailed in the chart.

                  Without an explanation, the data is in the 'so what' category and of no practical use - in my opinion, of course.

                  A question.

                  Have you ever wondered how many permutation tracking charts are needed to fully analyze the Powerball and Mega Millions games??
                  Too many for me to consider!!!!

                  bobby

                  I don't mind if people don't post here on this thread.

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                  "In other words, how does one use full and/or partial permutation data of the type you have presented to generate winning combinations?"

                  To tell the truth, I don't know!

                  I would need to know about their stats on the pick 3 game and then I could think if I could use them in some way or not and maybe how, but without the proper software I would not know anything about them and also in order to use them in some way I would need to have proper software, some kind of stats software first and then maybe some kind of filters software.

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                  Such things are both, for prediction and for filtration, same as anything else.

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                  Have you ever wondered how many permutation tracking charts are needed to fully analyze the Powerball and Mega Millions games??

                  Perhaps a person first needs to know what lottery prediction is all about so he or she would know how to go about trying to do it.

                  The nature of lottery prediction, what so many of us want to know, but even if we know some about it, we might need to have the proper resources in order to implement what we know or think that we know, because we might think that we know, but we won't know for sure if we do or not till we try it.

                  Like so very many of us, I might think that I know more than I really do.

                  But in my particular case, perhaps there might be more of a problem with not having the proper computing resources than with knowing how to predict, but that statement is not quite right, a person can't get to know some things without first having software both for stats and for data manipulation, but being able to make software is not enough, a person first needs to have a very good idea what lottery prediction is all about, that is: What is the nature of lottery prediction, this is were many or where most people who can make their own software fail, they might have enough computing resources, but they don't know how to properly use them.

                  And many or most people trust only one person: Themselves (The I), yes, I am also in that group, more or less, perhaps less than some others.

                  After all, didn't I start and post on so very many threads about what I call "Lottery filters?" and I told people that they could use in anyway that they wanted to anything that I posted about, my posts in all my Lottery Post incarnations are in the public dominion.

                  But for the most part my posts are more or less ended with the passing on of my LANTERN incarnation, the same so far has applied to whatever few predictions I felt like making.

                  It looks as if things are not about to change no time soon.

                  Also now-days I trust people who make lottery software even less than I did when I was LANTERN and I did work some with a few of them, I don't dislike them, I just don't trust a few of them.

                  As to those who run lotteries, I have never trusted them.

                  This didn't give you the answer that you asked for, so it didn't help you any, sorry!

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                    Hello!

                    There are 10 digits from 0 up to 9 for each of the 3 exact positions.

                    For just 1 of those 3 positions, each of those 10 digits, has a 1/10 chance to come out.

                    For all 3 positions, each of those 10 digits might have:

                    1/10 X 1/10 X 1/10 = 3/10 chance to come out in 1 of those 3 straight positions.

                    Maybe 3/10 = about 33% or about 1/3 (1 out of 3).

                    But I don't know anything, so I might be wrong.

                    By the way, thanks much for posting!

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                    Maybe more tonight Tuesday.

                    If you find one digit, you have to play it in three positions with all other combinations. I strongly suggest that you use my wheeler if you cannot calculate this. It displays the count. Finding one digit and playing it straight means winning net money. So if you have the bankroll then go for it!

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                      It's a shame that you are not getting much response to your posts.

                      Perhaps there would be more interest if you provided the answer to the most important lottery question: What's Next?

                      In other words, how does one use full and/or partial permutation data of the type you have presented to generate winning combinations?

                      I've seen hundreds of these type tracking charts in the 10+ years that I've been an LP member, but I've never
                      found one that told me exactly how to use the information detailed in the chart.

                      Without an explanation, the data is in the 'so what' category and of no practical use - in my opinion, of course.

                      A question.

                      Have you ever wondered how many permutation tracking charts are needed to fully analyze the Powerball and Mega Millions games??
                      Too many for me to consider!!!!

                      You stepped towards me with the request to analyse the string of all digits put together. When I asked what it was good for, you did not answer not wanting to say. After making it, you asked me what it was good for! You are the dog chasing your tail and wanting other people to chase your tail for you, so you do not have to run, and all that with the thought that you take the harvest.

                      I do not understand you and other players, who asked me for things done and not saying what it was meant for. You guys want to automate systems and look for someone telling you what will win. As intuitive person I might say something, but a machine will give you an output the way it was programmed to render.

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                        Can you pin point just one digit, good for any position, two times out of three?

                        If yes, how do you do it?

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                          Can you pin point just one digit, good for any position, two times out of three?

                          If yes, how do you do it?

                          On what games ? Pick 3 or Pick 5 and Pick 6 ? Not very clear m8

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                            On what games ? Pick 3 or Pick 5 and Pick 6 ? Not very clear m8

                            Here it is about pick 3.

                            Personally I play pick 6. There you might think about just one out of forty five.

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                              I rated my own thread 3 stars by mistake, I was not trying to rate it, as I don't rate my own threads, I was trying to see who rated it 5 stars.