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Reasons lottery winners should protect their anonymity

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Bondi Junction
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Posted: May 15, 2015, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

Companies that offer winners annuities frequent comb state records, and target winners.

We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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    Posted: May 15, 2015, 8:16 pm - IP Logged

    Companies that offer winners annuities frequent comb state records, and target winners.

    While I might find that faintly annoying, I don't think many people would choose that as a leading reason to demand anonymity. In the U.S. one can register their phone and address to prevent telemarketing calls and junk mail delivery. A few might get through, but between caller ID and a trash can, it's not much of a bother.

    The bigger issue, and the one the lottery commission doesn't care about, is the physical safety and emotional wellbeing of the winners. I saw where teenage children of lottery winners were told by the police to avoid going outside their home for a few weeks. That should not have to happen.

    Winners routinely get death and kidnapping threats. Frivolous lawsuits abound. Homes are staked out and harassment is the norm. JG Wentworth-esque companies are the least of a winner's concern. I'm waiting for the day someone is injured or killed as a direct result of this forced publicity and the lottery commission gets sued so hard their great grandchildren will be paying restitution.

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      Posted: May 16, 2015, 9:20 am - IP Logged

      While I might find that faintly annoying, I don't think many people would choose that as a leading reason to demand anonymity. In the U.S. one can register their phone and address to prevent telemarketing calls and junk mail delivery. A few might get through, but between caller ID and a trash can, it's not much of a bother.

      The bigger issue, and the one the lottery commission doesn't care about, is the physical safety and emotional wellbeing of the winners. I saw where teenage children of lottery winners were told by the police to avoid going outside their home for a few weeks. That should not have to happen.

      Winners routinely get death and kidnapping threats. Frivolous lawsuits abound. Homes are staked out and harassment is the norm. JG Wentworth-esque companies are the least of a winner's concern. I'm waiting for the day someone is injured or killed as a direct result of this forced publicity and the lottery commission gets sued so hard their great grandchildren will be paying restitution.

      I agree, it is not  a leading reason, but a reason nonetheless. My main reason for wishing the to remain anonymous would be family pressure. I can imagine people who win, come under enormous pressure to "help", which means hand over cash.

      We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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          Abraham Lee Shakespeare was murdered in Florida. He was found out by the realtor who sold him his home. The murderer was Dee Dee Moore. She talked to the realtor and then found Abraham. The rest is history online, books, etc..

         I've been rich and I've been poor. Believe me, rich is better. 

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          I agree, it is not  a leading reason, but a reason nonetheless. My main reason for wishing the to remain anonymous would be family pressure. I can imagine people who win, come under enormous pressure to "help", which means hand over cash.

          Agreed. I categorize that under emotional well-being. Cynthia Stafford's sister made a website, badmouthing Cynthia for not giving her a penny. I imagine if Cynthia had won the amount Jack Whitaker or Gloria won, it would have gotten more traction in the media. Bud Post would have been murdered had the hitman his own brother hired not gotten cold feet and went to the cops. Family can be just as ruthless and relentless as strangers. Maybe even more so because they will feel more entitled to a share than strangers and the emotional impact of their greed more distressing.

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            Agreed. I categorize that under emotional well-being. Cynthia Stafford's sister made a website, badmouthing Cynthia for not giving her a penny. I imagine if Cynthia had won the amount Jack Whitaker or Gloria won, it would have gotten more traction in the media. Bud Post would have been murdered had the hitman his own brother hired not gotten cold feet and went to the cops. Family can be just as ruthless and relentless as strangers. Maybe even more so because they will feel more entitled to a share than strangers and the emotional impact of their greed more distressing.

            You all make very good points. Every merchant wants to sell to you, your friends and your family. They want you to be safe and bring back more people to purchase their products. The lottery guys are the only merchants I know of that don't care if you are alive or not so far as they get their cheap publicity. For crying out loud, even the dopeman wants you to stay alive so you can buy more dope. It is really a big shame when you get rated lower than the dopeman.

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              Posted: May 16, 2015, 7:22 pm - IP Logged

              You might be able to use this when you win.... "My financial adviser has advised me not to make any unnecessary decisions until I have gone through the lengthy process of organizing and determining what my financial situation will look like long term.  Managing this transition is much harder than it looks from the outside. I am relieved to be going slowly in the beginning."

               Susan Bradley , a CFP and author , suggests a DFZ which is a Decision Free Zone.  She wrote,Sudden Money.

               Brian & Mary Lohse , Iowa lottery winners of about $200 million advertised jackpot. Say,"Grow into your money". They are building a grocery store for their community and all their neighbors just love them for it.

                Jack Whitaker has said, " He wishes he tore up the ticket". and his wife says the same thing.  Jack wishes he was a bit more secluded about winning. He says," Do not give any away because once you start giving it away they expect more and more."

               I have learned that I cannot save the World with any win. Everyone has to fulfill their dreams by themselves .

               Abraham Lee Shakespeare said,"They keep asking and they don't take no for an answer." He said this after he had given almost all of his prize away.

              Smile

               I've been rich and I've been poor. Believe me, rich is better. 

               Attributed to Joe E. Lewis and others

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                Posted: May 16, 2015, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

                You might be able to use this when you win.... "My financial adviser has advised me not to make any unnecessary decisions until I have gone through the lengthy process of organizing and determining what my financial situation will look like long term.  Managing this transition is much harder than it looks from the outside. I am relieved to be going slowly in the beginning."

                 Susan Bradley , a CFP and author , suggests a DFZ which is a Decision Free Zone.  She wrote,Sudden Money.

                 Brian & Mary Lohse , Iowa lottery winners of about $200 million advertised jackpot. Say,"Grow into your money". They are building a grocery store for their community and all their neighbors just love them for it.

                  Jack Whitaker has said, " He wishes he tore up the ticket". and his wife says the same thing.  Jack wishes he was a bit more secluded about winning. He says," Do not give any away because once you start giving it away they expect more and more."

                 I have learned that I cannot save the World with any win. Everyone has to fulfill their dreams by themselves .

                 Abraham Lee Shakespeare said,"They keep asking and they don't take no for an answer." He said this after he had given almost all of his prize away.

                Smile

                I Agree! give them an inch and they want a mile. They truely don't care until they get it all and even then they call you a lier if you say it's all gone.

                Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Today is a gift that's why it's called the PRESENT! (c8

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                  You might be able to use this when you win.... "My financial adviser has advised me not to make any unnecessary decisions until I have gone through the lengthy process of organizing and determining what my financial situation will look like long term.  Managing this transition is much harder than it looks from the outside. I am relieved to be going slowly in the beginning."

                   Susan Bradley , a CFP and author , suggests a DFZ which is a Decision Free Zone.  She wrote,Sudden Money.

                   Brian & Mary Lohse , Iowa lottery winners of about $200 million advertised jackpot. Say,"Grow into your money". They are building a grocery store for their community and all their neighbors just love them for it.

                    Jack Whitaker has said, " He wishes he tore up the ticket". and his wife says the same thing.  Jack wishes he was a bit more secluded about winning. He says," Do not give any away because once you start giving it away they expect more and more."

                   I have learned that I cannot save the World with any win. Everyone has to fulfill their dreams by themselves .

                   Abraham Lee Shakespeare said,"They keep asking and they don't take no for an answer." He said this after he had given almost all of his prize away.

                  Smile

                  music*, the way you put this together is music to my ears, no pun intended. Thanks.

                  Seek and ye shall find -Matt. 7:7 ...Ask and ye shall receive -John 16:24 ...Give and it shall be given unto you -Luke 6:38 ...Be careful what you ask for!!! -Mypiemaster 1:1

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                    Wink Thank You mypiemaster !!   I do love cherry pie. Especially homemade.

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                      I agree with you on the safety issue of lottery winners.

                      Just the other day Yahoo had a headline story of a man who won $12,00.00 walks out of a Philadelphia casino and is robbed and shot to death.

                      It's the stalker's one has to worry about! That's why most if not all big Hollywood celeb's have bodyguards around them when they go out in public.

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                        Fact of the matter is : Some people hate taking advice. They love to be exposed to the news and often seek out publicity. There are those winners who want to be " left alone"  while others crave the limelight, often giving out so called " advice"- Richard lustig come to mind. Saying " No Thanks" is not being mean- it means just that " Leave me alone" with my Money & my thoughts. Everyone is entitled to privacy- that's why its called PRIVATE :  preferring to keep personal affairs to oneself.

                        Trust No One..

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                        People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                          I'll be going to a party this summer where I'll see many people I haven't seen in 15- 20 years,

                          I wouldn't want to go if I won the MM or PB and everyone knew it.

                          That won't be a problem as the tix. I have are from Delaware.

                           

                          I have a ticket for Jersey's  2.4 MIL. pic6 but that wouldn't even get a mention Xcept on the state website.

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                            Graeme Thorne's abduction after father's huge lottery win shocked Australia in 1960s Trials of the Century

                             

                            1960s trials, part 1: GOOD fortune turns to horror when the young son of a lottery winner is abducted in an extortion bid.

                             

                            LOTTERY wins were once front page news.

                            And the 100,000 pound prize won by Sydney father Bazil Thorne was no exception.

                            Thorne was the owner of ticket 3932 in the tenth Opera House Lottery, set up to fund the harbour city’s future landmark.

                            Drawn on June 1, 1960, Thorne and his family including son Graeme, aged 8, would be pictured in the city’s newspapers as the lucky winners.

                            The money would be the equivalent of more than $2 million in today's money, but winners back then did not have the option of keeping their windfall private.

                            We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                              Graeme Thorne's abduction after father's huge lottery win shocked Australia in 1960s Trials of the Century

                               

                              1960s trials, part 1: GOOD fortune turns to horror when the young son of a lottery winner is abducted in an extortion bid.

                               

                              LOTTERY wins were once front page news.

                              And the 100,000 pound prize won by Sydney father Bazil Thorne was no exception.

                              Thorne was the owner of ticket 3932 in the tenth Opera House Lottery, set up to fund the harbour city’s future landmark.

                              Drawn on June 1, 1960, Thorne and his family including son Graeme, aged 8, would be pictured in the city’s newspapers as the lucky winners.

                              The money would be the equivalent of more than $2 million in today's money, but winners back then did not have the option of keeping their windfall private.

                              Reading those stories was Hungarian migrant and poker machine factory worker Stephen Leslie Bradley, 34.

                              He hatched a desperate plan to grab some of the winnings for himself.

                              Bradley spent the next five weeks watching the Thorne family’s Bondi flat, and following their movements.

                               

                              On July 7, Bradley was waiting in his 1955 blue Ford for Graeme, at the spot where he was usually picked up and driven to school.

                              After tricking Graeme into the car, Bradley drove to a corner of Centennial Park, tied a scarf around Graeme’s mouth and locked him in the boot.

                               

                              On the way back home, Bradley stopped at a public telephone.

                              The friend who usually took Graeme to school had contacted Mrs Thorne to ask where he was.

                              And Mrs Thorne, who had been anxious since the lottery win, immediately called police.

                              They were there waiting when the call came – believed to have been Australia’s first ransom demand. Mrs Thorne answered.

                              A detective took the phone from her and said: “This is Mr Thorne here.”

                              “I have your boy,” the heavily accented Bradley said. “I want 25,000 pounds by five o’clock this afternoon or I’ll feed him to the sharks. I’ll contact you later.”

                              We all get a lot out of lotteries!