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Lucky Loser's avatar - bucks
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This seems to happen often enough in Illinois to be noticeable.

Let the Midday tell you what to play for evening

 

'Coin, in your statements here, you are definitely eluding to a form of consistency or trend which lends itself to a basis by which to develop combos to play. No? Come on, now...you know I've been around for a long time.

 

L.L.

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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    Lucky Loser,

    No trend is long term. Regardless of the game a player might beat it for a day, or a week, but no system method, etc. proves itself long term.

    In the examples I've used for Illinois, like I said, it's often enough to be noticeable, but of course no one know when it's going to happen. Playing it everyday would be economic suicide.

    In Murgstoyd's example of 144 combos if someone played that and hit on the 4th day they'd win $500 and be stuck $76. (Illinois pays $500).

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: June 23, 2015, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

      Here's another one for you

      Tuesday, June 23, 2015

      Midday

      657

      Monday, June 22, 2015

      Evening

      765

      The evening prior to the Midday was 765, the next Midday was 657.

      Did the balls get stick?

      Scared

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        Posted: June 23, 2015, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

        I've noticed that on occasion in Texas also. Right now, I'm dropping the Daily 4, just focusing on jackpot games to cut back my spending.

        Good luck CT!

        This is so true. I lose more $ pkaying pick 3/4 than jackpot games

        Stay In The Vortex, you'll be happy you did ..... Random? Seriously? You want me to believe that?

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          Posted: June 23, 2015, 10:10 pm - IP Logged

          Thursday May 21, 2015
          Illinois Pick 3 Midday

          829

          Thursday, May 21, 2015
          Evening

          208

          Illinois
          Pick 4
          Thursday, May 21, 2015

          Midday
          5723

          Thursday, May 21, 2015
          Evening

          5712

          This seems to happen often enough in Illinois to be noticeable.

          Let the Midday tell you what to play for evening?

          This Happens A Lot In Ontario,Just Went Back A Week

          For Pick 4 Ontario

          Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
          MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
          Tue, Jun 23, 201555554308638930
          Mon, Jun 22, 201514883842395308
          Sun, Jun 21, 201596174540238763
          Sat, Jun 20, 201550005399009778
          Fri, Jun 19, 201548586490102461
          Thu, Jun 18, 201519109475713032
          Wed, Jun 17, 201585914572881260
          Tue, Jun 16, 201519854276912365
          Mon, Jun 15, 201572904099975230

                                 

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            Posted: June 24, 2015, 1:29 am - IP Logged

            This is a great observation CT!!!

            Thanks!  I see it now!

            Previously I did not used to pay attention to the pick 3, but since I am doing a terrible job in the JP games, I am modifying my excel charts for pick 3.

            A simple pattern similar to the one your alluding to CT, is that I find that in one draw ( does not neccessarily have to be mid to eve, can be eve to mid)

            is that say the draw was 052.   I have noticed that the 2 in the third position will move to the second.

            Now there is no "real" movement as the machines are generally separate.  However, when in a bind and I have a feeling on the the first and on the third number, I can use that "phenomena" to filter the second position number out.

            Of course it doesn't always work.  Just the other day, I had the first and third number, and I thought, well that hasn't happened in a while, it doesn't always work.

            Well sure enough it happened, and I lost.  So it take more than just the ability to perceive this phenomena.  You also have to believe it will happen when you play.

            I have other "indicators"like doubles due, and sums, and positional repeats.  All of them present in my spreadsheets.  Perhaps I will make my excel charts available to dedicated players for a small fee when I get my website up.  They are still in development of course, but i like the idea of being able to spend .50 cent and win 40 bucks, so I am perservering.   I also like the idea of pulling the trigger when I see that straight coming so I can do the snoopy comma dance.  I also have charts for pick 4, but I would rather play the highest odds and the lowest odds games.  Well if you see my name in the top of the prediction boards, then I have achieved my goal.

            Thanks CT for your brilliant observations!!

            BTW, I only try to spend a dollar max per draw.  (Thats two numbers, usually to of the same sum I am hoping for).  when considered box, its actually 32 numbers. I have done the 50/50 only once so far this month, I thought there was a good chance.  I dont see anything right now, so sitting out for midday.

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              I Agree!  As long as you going to be losing a few dollars it might as well be from trying to win a jackpot game, forget those box threes for $50.

              They actually pay only $40, or $80 for a double, on a .50 cent bet. (Unless you want to try those elevated payouts at overseas online betting parlors)

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                Murgatroyd, as you've stated here already, these are pretty much basic occurrences and the most fundamental start to ANY SYSTEM. From one draw to the very next, including pre-tests, at least one digit from the last draw will often return in the next official draw whether in it's same position or the remaining two positions. There are times that two digits will return right back in their same positions as well...go figure. Those pre-tests are something else! Some time ago, another member here and I conducted a little study on this same approach for about a week and it made money. To be perfectly honest, in terms of the title of this thread 'Indicators', these 'indicators' are present the same way in all states. I like experience when I see it!

                 

                L.L.

                You forgot to mention when sometimes the numbers come back exact in 1 to 3 draws!

                This is a common observation by most players and accounts for the phenomena of any particular number being sold out for at least a week after it initially comes out.  I dont play this way generally, unless the sum pattern alludes to it.  I don't do short sums.  To complicated for me.

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                  In the interest of substantiating what I said, here's an immediate example by way of Vermont's recent midday and night draws along with an additional draws to establish  repeatability. Additionally, the idea of there being 'no consistency' in the draws is proved wrong. Consistency can be time dependant in that something needs not occur every single time...it can occur every other time and so forth. Have a look:

                   sunEvening DrawssunDay Draws

                  Draw Date: 6/14/2015879  Draw Date: 6/14/2015379 

                  Draw Date: 6/13/2015359  Draw Date: 6/13/2015049 

                  Draw Date: 6/12/2015500  Draw Date: 6/12/2015158 

                  Looking for consistency in something designed not to have it, heh? This applies to every state...it happens...which means it's consistent state to state...because it's the same game with the same numbers and draw process. I've been discussing consistencies from day one of becoming a member here and there are more of them.

                   

                  L.L.

                  Is vermont a jewish state?  Because it appears here we are reading from right to left.

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                    LuckyLoser,

                    Here's what I mean by designed not to have consistency.

                    Let's us a 6/52 game. say the drawing was:

                    9   12   20   26   39   44   

                    Use 9 as the base or as X

                    That would give you X  +  3  +  8  + 6  +  13  + 5 .

                    So a person looking for consistency would pick another start number  and use

                    + 3  + *  +6  + 13  + 5

                    Or of they were really into it they'd take the number drawn in order and look for the same thing.

                    A player could chase something like that the rest of their life with no results.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      LuckyLoser,

                      Here's what I mean by designed not to have consistency.

                      Let's us a 6/52 game. say the drawing was:

                      9   12   20   26   39   44   

                      Use 9 as the base or as X

                      That would give you X  +  3  +  8  + 6  +  13  + 5 .

                      So a person looking for consistency would pick another start number  and use

                      + 3  + *  +6  + 13  + 5

                      Or of they were really into it they'd take the number drawn in order and look for the same thing.

                      A player could chase something like that the rest of their life with no results.

                      Okay, I see what the issue is now. You and I are attempting to apply the same principle with two different games in mind for the most part. My focusing is geared exclusively to Pick3/4 whereas you include the smaller games but, apply the non-consistency and not winning principle more to the jackpot games and you'd be correct...to an extent. I agree and let me give you my perspective. It's much easier, and provable, to find consistency with repeating numbers in choosing 3/10 versus 6/49 or 6/52. Why? Well, to go from choosing (3) numbers to (6) BUT, with a NUMERICAL SCALE INCREASE OF 5X's the numbers to choose from is big jump...and thwarts the dependability of being able to select winning numbers based on repeatability...maybe not. We're not talking about merely doubling how many numbers we can choose and, simultaneously, only doubling the corresponding SCALE of numbers to be selected from i.e. 3/10 to 6/20. The higher the scale, the less repeatability to be found in my opinion...or is there?

                      At times, I do see where a number has repeated on both MM's and PB. Here's the latest example including two number repeats the last six PB draws:

                       

                      6/24/2015     3-5-10-22-32   (7)

                      6/20/2015     9-10-16-20-57 (15)

                      6/17/2015    20-21-22-41-54 (7)**

                      6/13/2015    29-41-48-52-54 (29)**

                      6/10/2015    31-32-48-49-53 (25)

                      6/06/2015       8-13-18-27-43 (15)

                       

                      Mind you, this mild repeatability is found on the 5/59 side and the 1/35. I have to maintain that while you never know which, or, when numbers will repeat, it's a solid basis to play back the last numbers drawn for a least a couple of draws or so. Then, there's the idea of playing a set of sentimental numbers forever and then decide not to play them...all to find that they were drawn...gotta hate it. My thing is this: all those same numbers are still in there on the very next draw, and there are pre-tests, so why not bet that they'll choose at least one of the numbers prior? Just my .02...and this is good conversation you have.

                       

                      L.L.

                      Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                      There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                      #lotto-4-a-living

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                        LuckyLoser,

                        Here's what I mean by designed not to have consistency.

                        Let's us a 6/52 game. say the drawing was:

                        9   12   20   26   39   44   

                        Use 9 as the base or as X

                        That would give you X  +  3  +  8  + 6  +  13  + 5 .

                        So a person looking for consistency would pick another start number  and use

                        + 3  + *  +6  + 13  + 5

                        Or of they were really into it they'd take the number drawn in order and look for the same thing.

                        A player could chase something like that the rest of their life with no results.

                        Wow Coin Toss this is another great idea you have here?

                        However using your addition method, are you taking into account the random factor here?

                        Also just an observation.  You started your thread with the pick 3, but now you have jumped to pick 6.

                        It appears your ideas about lotto do not have any consistency.

                        It is like comparing apples to watermelons.

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                          Not really, SilverLion. Some people do look for such things.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Not really, SilverLion. Some people do look for such things.

                            Those people are very smart.  After all you have to start somewhere.

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                              Do you really think hoping you'll get the right first number and the same exact + and - pattern will repeat is smart?

                              Let me give you two more examples......in the late 1970s the casinos put in a mechanical horse racing game that was basically a very large version of a kid's game and set up to take and payout quarters. From the very first race people were keeping track with paper and pencil 'doping out' the races.
                              There were 8 horses and once 8 races had been run some people were betting on the sequence of sinning horses to repeat.

                              On a crap table there is one and only one way to roll a 2 or a 12, 1-1 or 6-6. There are 36 combinations possible on a pair of dice. People will actually track rolls, wait for 36 rolls with no 2 or 12 and then 'send it in'. The casinos love them.

                              8 horses, not consistent.

                              36 combinations, not consistent.

                              You're going to tell me there's consistency in lottery games, considering the odds in those games.

                              Good luck in your quest.

                              Lep

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

                              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.