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garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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If you take the top 1000 back digit permutations and compare those to the 7351 pretest and combined draws, those 1000 permutations account for 2178 hits (~30%). And only 97 of the top 1000 back digit permutations have never hit.

Restricting the top 1000 back digit permutations to live draws only, we get 426 hits of 1466 live draws.

In simple terms, almost 30% of the draws come from 1000 permutations. 30 of every 100 draws contain one of those top 1000 back digit sets.

When you consider there are 10000 total sets, (truly, only 9929 since 71 are non-existent), we see 10% of the total producing 30% of the winners. 

That is to a pretty significant number. 

BTW, increasing to the top 2000 back digit permutations only raises the winning percentage  +14% (to 44%).

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    Interesting find you have there.

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      Posted: June 4, 2015, 11:15 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks.

      So far I've found 24 errors in the data files with some hits showing -1.

      Those alone mean a 48 point positive hit shift. Once I know all the data is correct, I'll run it again and post an excel link.

      Tonight duplicating the process for Cash 5 and realizing some things I'd like to add to both programs.

      See where it goes from here

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        If you take the top 1000 back digit permutations and compare those to the 7351 pretest and combined draws, those 1000 permutations account for 2178 hits (~30%). And only 97 of the top 1000 back digit permutations have never hit.

        Restricting the top 1000 back digit permutations to live draws only, we get 426 hits of 1466 live draws.

        In simple terms, almost 30% of the draws come from 1000 permutations. 30 of every 100 draws contain one of those top 1000 back digit sets.

        When you consider there are 10000 total sets, (truly, only 9929 since 71 are non-existent), we see 10% of the total producing 30% of the winners. 

        That is to a pretty significant number. 

        BTW, increasing to the top 2000 back digit permutations only raises the winning percentage  +14% (to 44%).

        Gary,

        what do you mean by "back digit permutations"?

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          Posted: June 6, 2015, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

          Gary

          Nice to see you posting again, not seen you in a while.  How long has the 2-step game been drawing in TX?

          MO has a 4+1 but it's kinda new and does not have much history yet.

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            Gary,

            what do you mean by "back digit permutations"?

            We're talking comparing every 4 digit combination as an individual. All 9929 as their own unique set.

            Originally the thought was to take each set of three digits, lowest to highest (0123, 4567, etc) and compare those letting the computer make the different combinations for each set. Easy to do when dealing with 4 individual digits.

            Dealing with pairs like 3434 or 2626 and doubles 1145 or 5677 and triples like 2227 and 8555 and QUADS leaves you scratching your head when it comes to the result.

            Also it leaves you wondering which of the 24 sets account for the highest hit rate.

            The top hitting single combination is 1602 with 8 hits. That's as an individual set.

            Looking at the different permutations (combinations if you want) of the digits 0,1,2,6

            0126 has 0 hits

            0162 has 1 hit

            0216 has 0

            0261 has 0

            0612 has 2

            0621 has 0

            1026 has 1

            1062 has 0

            1206 has 1

            1260 has 1

            1602 has 8

            1620 has 1

            6012 has 3

            6021 has 0

            6102 has 0

            6201 has 0

            6210 has 0

            What we have is one heavy hitter 1602 stuck in with 17 others producing 10 hits total. And that's the reason we went to the length of getting totals for each permutation/combination, if you will.

            Once I get back to the other computer I'll be able to do more. Even with Texas making the Cash5 a rolldown game, I still think 2Step is the best value for the dollar of all the Texas games. And that's why I'm concentrating on it.

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              Posted: June 6, 2015, 12:33 pm - IP Logged

              Gary,

              what do you mean by "back digit permutations"?

              In the Texas 2-step there are 4 numbers drawn so if looking only at the back digits then the permutations are

              the same as a daily pick-4 game.  10K permutations 0000 to 9999 

              Example

              Set 01-15-23-45

              Front digits = 0-1-2-4 

              Back digits = 1-5-3-5   

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                Gary

                Nice to see you posting again, not seen you in a while.  How long has the 2-step game been drawing in TX?

                MO has a 4+1 but it's kinda new and does not have much history yet.

                Thumbs Up

                RL

                The Texas 2 Step has been running since May 18th 2001. 1467 Drawings  as of Thurs. June 4th 2015.

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                  In the Texas 2-step there are 4 numbers drawn so if looking only at the back digits then the permutations are

                  the same as a daily pick-4 game.  10K permutations 0000 to 9999 

                  Example

                  Set 01-15-23-45

                  Front digits = 0-1-2-4 

                  Back digits = 1-5-3-5   

                  RL

                  For 4/35 matrix, P=1500625 picks ( for draw with replacement, which is not the case here).

                  For 4/35 matrix , C=52360 picks

                  For Pick 4, 10P4 P=10000(with digit replacement)

                  For Pick 4, 10C C=715 (with digit repeat)

                  For Pick 4, 10C4 C=201 (distinct digits)

                  I need  info in filtering just 2 digits for the 52360 picks, any help? maybe 500+ picks ??

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                    For 4/35 matrix, P=1500625 picks ( for draw with replacement, which is not the case here).

                    For 4/35 matrix , C=52360 picks

                    For Pick 4, 10P4 P=10000(with digit replacement)

                    For Pick 4, 10C C=715 (with digit repeat)

                    For Pick 4, 10C4 C=201 (distinct digits)

                    I need  info in filtering just 2 digits for the 52360 picks, any help? maybe 500+ picks ??

                    TX 2 step

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                    draw 10-11-25-30>intervals via non-parametric sampling(100cycles)>3-21-25-5-13-1-7-21-3-8-3-9-5-4-25-17-18-19-7-30-26-25>Baseline 3-4-5-7-1-8-25-17-18-19>Consider Binomial format 10C4 as filter for drive pair integers 3,4,5,7   for 28 picks a pair.This will yield multiple 2/4, 3/4  and potential 5/5 within a month.

                    NB>The assumption is based on  non-parametric stats sampling which does not depend on probability distribution of any parameter. The baseline can be increase if you wish, by doing more simulation on the matrix 4/35.

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                      I know you guys have a 4 of 60, didn't know about the 4 +1. If the matrix doesn't end in 0, look it over closely.

                      Texas wants us to believe we have 10000 possible back digit combos in 4/35, but it don't work out that way. Can't have 0666. That would be 10 16 26 36. We can have 9989 (9 19 28 29), but 9998 is out 9 19 29 38.

                      Here's the combos that can't be played in 4/35

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                        Forgive the overlap of the excel sheet in the above post. Totally unintentional but I'll leave it anyway.

                        The first column is the total number in of combinations in the matrix (52360), then the four digits in the back digit set, and hits in the total matrix in the blue column.

                        You have the same thing for the actual live draws in the 1466 column (at the time I ran the program), and actual draws plus the pretest following the 7351.

                        That last column is a difference in hits in the actual live draws and the pretest. In this case, it doesn't mean anything.

                        All the non-existent back digit combos contain high digits too.

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                          While I'm here, let me throw another "something to consider" idea out.

                          What if I say that all back digit sets are not created equal? What if I said some back digit sets have more balls in the pot than others?

                          Would you believe me?

                          See if I can prove it. Basically there are 5 groups of back digit combos. At the top of the list is a group of 5 combinations that hit in exact order 35 times throughout the matrix. Those combos are all low (except for the 5).

                          Next we have a group of combos that hit 15 times in exact order over the entire matrix. There are 1340 of these which produce 2876 hits in the live draw plus pretest.

                          Have a look:

                          Then there is the next set. Any member of that group only has 5 possible combinations in the matrix. It consists of 5875 members and has produced 4093 hits of the total 7315 draws.

                          Then you have the group that only hits once.  There is 2710 of those and they have produced 360 hits.

                           

                          What do you think now?

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                            Gary

                            Very interesting.

                             

                            P.S. Your right it's a 4-60 not a 4-60+1,  I don't know why I added the +1 must have been tired.

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                              For 4/35 matrix, P=1500625 picks ( for draw with replacement, which is not the case here).

                              For 4/35 matrix , C=52360 picks

                              For Pick 4, 10P4 P=10000(with digit replacement)

                              For Pick 4, 10C C=715 (with digit repeat)

                              For Pick 4, 10C4 C=201 (distinct digits)

                              I need  info in filtering just 2 digits for the 52360 picks, any help? maybe 500+ picks ??

                              My mistake I was thinking the 2-step was a 4-39.

                              RL

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                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

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