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Krypton
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Posted: June 20, 2015, 8:33 am - IP Logged

Apologies but I was unclear where to ask this so Todd feel to move this   If you knew you had ALL the winning numbers for the next draw which wheel can I use that will cover all my numbers.  Let's say I have 20 numbers 

 

Much appreciated

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    Posted: June 20, 2015, 8:35 am - IP Logged

    Apologies but I was unclear where to ask this so Todd feel to move this   If you knew you had ALL the winning numbers for the next draw which wheel can I use that will cover all my numbers.  Let's say I have 20 numbers 

     

    Much appreciated

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      Posted: June 20, 2015, 8:55 am - IP Logged

      Apologies but I was unclear where to ask this so Todd feel to move this   If you knew you had ALL the winning numbers for the next draw which wheel can I use that will cover all my numbers.  Let's say I have 20 numbers 

       

      Much appreciated

      As a Platinum member, you have full access to the set of Abbreviated Wheels here.  They are among the best you can use.

      Pick 5 Wheels: http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels-5.asp

      Pick 6 Wheels: http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels-6.asp

       

      You can also create custom wheels by selecting a Full Wheel and then applying various filters to it.  The Full Wheels are available to everyone, and the filtering ability is a Platinum feature.

       

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        Posted: June 20, 2015, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

        As a Platinum member, you have full access to the set of Abbreviated Wheels here.  They are among the best you can use.

        Pick 5 Wheels: http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels-5.asp

        Pick 6 Wheels: http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels-6.asp

         

        You can also create custom wheels by selecting a Full Wheel and then applying various filters to it.  The Full Wheels are available to everyone, and the filtering ability is a Platinum feature.

        Todd, 

         

        being unfamiliar with wheels will they give me 100% of the number I put in it?  I will go look at them and read for myself as well. I want to be able to cover EVERY combination of the numbers I put in

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          Posted: June 20, 2015, 12:30 pm - IP Logged

          Check out BobP's lottologix website.

          Thanks RC

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            Posted: June 20, 2015, 12:31 pm - IP Logged

            As a Platinum member, you have full access to the set of Abbreviated Wheels here.  They are among the best you can use.

            Pick 5 Wheels: http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels-5.asp

            Pick 6 Wheels: http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels-6.asp

             

            You can also create custom wheels by selecting a Full Wheel and then applying various filters to it.  The Full Wheels are available to everyone, and the filtering ability is a Platinum feature.

            Got it Todd. I want the Full Wheel. Thanks

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              Posted: June 20, 2015, 12:45 pm - IP Logged

              Apologies but I was unclear where to ask this so Todd feel to move this   If you knew you had ALL the winning numbers for the next draw which wheel can I use that will cover all my numbers.  Let's say I have 20 numbers 

               

              Much appreciated

              Agree with Todd.

              A full wheel for 5 of 20 is 15504 combinations.

              A full wheel for 6 of 20 is 38760 combinations.

              You're talking about spending more money than Cash 5 pays out in Texas.

              So if BobP is still around, he could offer some insight into full, abbreviated, front loaded and balanced wheels. Maybe PM him, or visit his website.

              Might install Covermaster and play with it as well.

              And like Todd said, look at the abbreviated wheels here.

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                Posted: June 20, 2015, 12:55 pm - IP Logged

                Agree with Todd.

                A full wheel for 5 of 20 is 15504 combinations.

                A full wheel for 6 of 20 is 38760 combinations.

                You're talking about spending more money than Cash 5 pays out in Texas.

                So if BobP is still around, he could offer some insight into full, abbreviated, front loaded and balanced wheels. Maybe PM him, or visit his website.

                Might install Covermaster and play with it as well.

                And like Todd said, look at the abbreviated wheels here.

                You know where I'm going either this G?  We need to meet brother. I'll send you a PM

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                  Posted: June 20, 2015, 1:05 pm - IP Logged

                  Just a reminder:
                  Automated play slips are banned in Texas.
                  You will have to hire a crew to mark the tickets after you find all the blank slips you will need.
                  Good luck!!

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                    Posted: June 20, 2015, 1:35 pm - IP Logged

                    Just a reminder:
                    Automated play slips are banned in Texas.
                    You will have to hire a crew to mark the tickets after you find all the blank slips you will need.
                    Good luck!!

                    Once the tickets are printed, how will the states know or care how the play slips were made out?  The only advantage I can see for states banning automated play slips is if they are used and the printer is slightly off and the terminal print the wrong combination then the players can't complain since using them was illegal.

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                      Posted: June 20, 2015, 5:46 pm - IP Logged

                      It may not seem important but the rule banning non-manual tickets is clearly stated in the Texas lottery rule book and on the back of the playslip.

                      Quote Playslips must be completed manually, Unquote.
                      A win using a playslip that was not completed manually is void, so says the rule book.
                      Given the careless attitude displayed by many store clerks these days, a person might get away with using a non-manual playslip.
                      However, getting a clerk to run several hundred playslips, no matter how they were completed, might not be easy.
                      A lottery retailer can manually enter plays at the terminal, but, again, finding one that would actually do it for a large number of
                      permutations might not be easy.
                      Just another hurdle for players.

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                        Posted: June 20, 2015, 7:11 pm - IP Logged

                        Just a reminder:
                        Automated play slips are banned in Texas.
                        You will have to hire a crew to mark the tickets after you find all the blank slips you will need.
                        Good luck!!

                        I've got taken care of.  I ordered a box of tickets from one of the convenient marts   Thanks

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                          Posted: June 20, 2015, 7:15 pm - IP Logged

                          It may not seem important but the rule banning non-manual tickets is clearly stated in the Texas lottery rule book and on the back of the playslip.

                          Quote Playslips must be completed manually, Unquote.
                          A win using a playslip that was not completed manually is void, so says the rule book.
                          Given the careless attitude displayed by many store clerks these days, a person might get away with using a non-manual playslip.
                          However, getting a clerk to run several hundred playslips, no matter how they were completed, might not be easy.
                          A lottery retailer can manually enter plays at the terminal, but, again, finding one that would actually do it for a large number of
                          permutations might not be easy.
                          Just another hurdle for players.

                          Actually have that covered as well Bobby. My local store will run them after they close their store or before they open. He too realizes that 1% is a lot of money.  I have a few minor things to work out before I'm ready to go but I believe all my basis are covered   Regardless , thanks for bringing this too my attention

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                            Posted: June 20, 2015, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

                            Agree with Todd.

                            A full wheel for 5 of 20 is 15504 combinations.

                            A full wheel for 6 of 20 is 38760 combinations.

                            You're talking about spending more money than Cash 5 pays out in Texas.

                            So if BobP is still around, he could offer some insight into full, abbreviated, front loaded and balanced wheels. Maybe PM him, or visit his website.

                            Might install Covermaster and play with it as well.

                            And like Todd said, look at the abbreviated wheels here.

                            G,

                            spending that kind of cash will be minor compared to the win (-:  I would NEVER spend that mind of cash without being 110% certain. I definitely have any 4/4 5/5 6/6 figured out   Need to complete my Macro   Doing it by hand not only takes a long time but as human beings we make mistakes   I've back tested in every position 9 draws in a row so far with 100% accuracy with what I've completed so far but as of now it's 28 numbers. I'd like to get that narrowed down and from what I've seen over the past year timing is everything   When I see you I'll show you what I'm talking about. Hope your feeling better. Check your personal email.  Sent you some gifts (-:

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                              Posted: June 20, 2015, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

                              Working, working working.......

                              Finally got something you can use....I think.

                               

                               

                              This should be good. DRAWS in the first column 561 because I included everything back to Feb, 2010.

                              N1 and N2 the pairs we are searching for.

                              1&2 = first and second position.

                              1&3 = first and 3rd position.

                              1&4 = first and 4th position.

                              2&4 - second and fourth position

                              same for all columns.

                              TOTAL = Total for all position hits.

                              Could rerun using only the data under the new matrix but it only has 300+ draws.

                              57 pairs that have never hit.

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