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Should the IL State Lottery Report Card be changed from a A+ to a F- ???

YES

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[ 93.6% ]

[ 2 ]

[ 6.4% ]

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butch2030

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Sep 29, 2015, 10:40 am

MY Vote is "YES" for the following reasons.

1) Withholding payments to ALL winners with $25,000 or greater prizes. (You get an IOU from the State since June 2015)

2) Changing games from Ball Drawings (Mechanical) to RNG (Random Number Generator - Computer) drawings effective 10/01/15.

3) The State is still raking in the money from current sales but items (1) & (2) above still apply.

4) The State hasn't posted anything at the Retail Level to notify customers that they will get an IOU vs. PMT on winnings of $25,000 or Greater. They will find out soon enough from the State when they go to collect their prize. It's a form of Sticker Shock..........
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Sep 29, 2015, 10:47 am

Patience, I'm sure Todd will change it the day it takes effect. I'm just wondering if it will set a LP 'hero to zero' record.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 29, 2015, 11:36 am

Actually, the lowest rating would be D because Powerball and Mega Millions are ball drawn for now.

We suspect those would be next to go RNG since they already use RNG for the Power Play and Megaplier.

It just needs a little muddled controversy like Illinois... and BOOM!! There you are... Good Luuuuck Everyone.

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butch2030

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Sep 29, 2015, 11:46 am
TN is all ready on the list with a "F" rating & they still have the PB & MM as Ball Drawn.

Grade: F
- Tennessee (20% true lottery drawings)
  True Drawings: Mega Millions, Powerball
  Computerized: Cash 3 Evening, Cash 3 Midday, Cash 3 Morning, Cash 4 Evening, Cash 4 Midday, Cash 4 Morning, Hot Lotto, Tennessee Cash
butch2030

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Sep 29, 2015, 12:26 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Sep 29, 2015
Actually, the lowest rating would be D because Powerball and Mega Millions are ball drawn for now.

We suspect those would be next to go RNG since they already use RNG for the Power Play and Megaplier.

It just needs a little muddled controversy like Illinois... and BOOM!! There you are... Good Luuuuck Everyone.

I see where you are coming from. With the 7 games that are going to RNG on 10/01/15. This would put IL in the 22% bracket, which means they would be getting a D rating. I still would like to give them a F rating due to the way they are going about screwing over the players winning 25k & over with a stupid IOU & not notifying the general public of what they are doing at the retail level. They are still getting their revenue but it's the winners that are left holding the bag (or IOU in this case). No pmts for winners of 25k or greater since June 2015 & No pmts in the near future until they get their act together. Lets just hope that the current law suits against the State will have a positive outcome for the lottery players.
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Sep 29, 2015, 1:27 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Sep 29, 2015
Actually, the lowest rating would be D because Powerball and Mega Millions are ball drawn for now.

We suspect those would be next to go RNG since they already use RNG for the Power Play and Megaplier.

It just needs a little muddled controversy like Illinois... and BOOM!! There you are... Good Luuuuck Everyone.

JADELottery,

Thanks for that.

Wasn't aware that PP and MP were picked by RNG.

Although I'm done w/power ball after the change I'm still an occasional MM player and I'll have to reconsider the MP

since I could use that buck for my states 6/49 game w/ slightly better odds.

LOL all Illinois controversies like Jersey's are a lot muddled.

Picked yes on the poll.

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HoLeeKau

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Sep 29, 2015, 1:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Sep 29, 2015
Actually, the lowest rating would be D because Powerball and Mega Millions are ball drawn for now.

We suspect those would be next to go RNG since they already use RNG for the Power Play and Megaplier.

It just needs a little muddled controversy like Illinois... and BOOM!! There you are... Good Luuuuck Everyone.

There should be a special F dispensation for Ill since they are the only state withholding payment to winners.
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Sep 29, 2015, 1:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by HoLeeKau on Sep 29, 2015
There should be a special F dispensation for Ill since they are the only state withholding payment to winners.
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Sep 29, 2015, 2:58 pm

Quote: Originally posted by butch2030 on Sep 29, 2015
I see where you are coming from. With the 7 games that are going to RNG on 10/01/15. This would put IL in the 22% bracket, which means they would be getting a D rating. I still would like to give them a F rating due to the way they are going about screwing over the players winning 25k & over with a stupid IOU & not notifying the general public of what they are doing at the retail level. They are still getting their revenue but it's the winners that are left holding the bag (or IOU in this case). No pmts for winners of 25k or greater since June 2015 & No pmts in the near future until they get their act together. Lets just hope that the current law suits against the State will have a positive outcome for the lottery players.

"I still would like to give them a F rating due to the way they are going about screwing over the players winning 25k & over with a stupid IOU & not notifying the general public of what they are doing at the retail level. "

The Illinois Lottery doesn't issue checks over $25,000 so you're blaming it for the wrong reasons. What did your state representative say when called them?
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Sep 29, 2015, 7:53 pm

It should go to an F.

Only the MUSL games are mechanical, the state games will be RNGs.

There might be a mix up here on the Mega number and Powerball not being mechanical, it might be the Megaplier and Powerplay that are RNG, not sure.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 29, 2015, 8:45 pm

They should get an F for just being stupid.
TnTicketlosers

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Sep 29, 2015, 8:46 pm

Tn lottery is the worst in the country.Florida and Georgia is the best.
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Sep 30, 2015, 9:22 am

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fast eddie

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Sep 30, 2015, 9:28 am

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

not paying players on time

then

going to RNG without really telling retailers and players

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Sep 30, 2015, 9:57 am

Go to Youtube and watch a PB drawing and a MM drawing.

The first five balls are white, and the +1 is also a ball, red for PB and yellow for MM, it's the megaplier and the powerplay that are RNGs.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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