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Matrix change will not make Powerball jackpots larger.

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I don't understand why Powerball doesn't go with a real HARD matrix?  It's still going to be way too easy to win in places like Michigan.

If Powerball wants to give us bigger jackpots, then they need to actually make it HARD to win.

Here's what I'd propose...computer draw...white balls from 1 to 9,999,999,999,999.  Powerball from 1 to 999,999.   Keep it a 5 + 1 game.

I'd like to see certain states win this 5 or more times a year LOL.

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    Can you even figure the odds of winning something with that size matrix?  There's nothing wrong players in Michigan winning the jackpot or players else where winning it either.

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      Posted: October 3, 2015, 11:12 am - IP Logged

      JJ, with the new matrix, it is just going to take longer for the same places to win the jackpot and second tier jackpot.

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          Posted: October 3, 2015, 12:47 pm - IP Logged

          I don't understand why Powerball doesn't go with a real HARD matrix?  It's still going to be way too easy to win in places like Michigan.

          If Powerball wants to give us bigger jackpots, then they need to actually make it HARD to win.

          Here's what I'd propose...computer draw...white balls from 1 to 9,999,999,999,999.  Powerball from 1 to 999,999.   Keep it a 5 + 1 game.

          I'd like to see certain states win this 5 or more times a year LOL.

          Holy poo!! This is ludicrous.  Assuming no number is duplicated, 9999999999999 * 9999999999998 * 9999999999997 * 9999999999996 * 9999999999995 * 999999 = 9.999x10^70.

          I relate the odds of winning a jackpot game to being able to stand on the correct 1 sq ft tile in a room.  The size of the room is just a little bit bigger or smaller than the following:

          • MM > 3 miles square
          • PB > 2.5 miles square
          • PB < 3.25 miles square (new matrix)

          Your numbers!  Just wow!  What a ridiculous notion!  You wouldn't need a room to realize the scale, you would need approximately 1.09x10^16 EARTHS!  Find one of those earth size balls, then stand on the correct 1 sq ft space to claim your prize.  Even the number of earths has unfathomably hard odds.  It doesn't even sound better when considering the surface area of the sun!  You would still need to stand on an orb with 934,000,000,000 suns' worth of surface area, tiled in 1 sq ft tiles in order to win.

          Even if my calculations are off, this was a fun exercise.  Thanks!


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            Holy poo!! This is ludicrous.  Assuming no number is duplicated, 9999999999999 * 9999999999998 * 9999999999997 * 9999999999996 * 9999999999995 * 999999 = 9.999x10^70.

            I relate the odds of winning a jackpot game to being able to stand on the correct 1 sq ft tile in a room.  The size of the room is just a little bit bigger or smaller than the following:

            • MM > 3 miles square
            • PB > 2.5 miles square
            • PB < 3.25 miles square (new matrix)

            Your numbers!  Just wow!  What a ridiculous notion!  You wouldn't need a room to realize the scale, you would need approximately 1.09x10^16 EARTHS!  Find one of those earth size balls, then stand on the correct 1 sq ft space to claim your prize.  Even the number of earths has unfathomably hard odds.  It doesn't even sound better when considering the surface area of the sun!  You would still need to stand on an orb with 934,000,000,000 suns' worth of surface area, tiled in 1 sq ft tiles in order to win.

            Even if my calculations are off, this was a fun exercise.  Thanks!

            That's awesome!  That's what the odds need to be for us to have large jackpots.

            Even with those odds that need scientific notation to calculate, it would still be way too easy for some winners to win it, but there would be less winners overall leading to larger jackpots.

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              Posted: October 3, 2015, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

              I don't understand why Powerball doesn't go with a real HARD matrix?  It's still going to be way too easy to win in places like Michigan.

              If Powerball wants to give us bigger jackpots, then they need to actually make it HARD to win.

              Here's what I'd propose...computer draw...white balls from 1 to 9,999,999,999,999.  Powerball from 1 to 999,999.   Keep it a 5 + 1 game.

              I'd like to see certain states win this 5 or more times a year LOL.

              While you're proposing change: Why not propose that the Price for each Ticket be raised to $100.00 each?

              Reality vs Absurdity!

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                Posted: October 3, 2015, 1:42 pm - IP Logged

                I don't understand why Powerball doesn't go with a real HARD matrix?  It's still going to be way too easy to win in places like Michigan.

                If Powerball wants to give us bigger jackpots, then they need to actually make it HARD to win.

                Here's what I'd propose...computer draw...white balls from 1 to 9,999,999,999,999.  Powerball from 1 to 999,999.   Keep it a 5 + 1 game.

                I'd like to see certain states win this 5 or more times a year LOL.

                Odds of winning that would be

                1 : 833,332,499,998,750,001,250,000,708,332,624,999,812,500,187,500,022,833,310,499,999,000,000

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                  Posted: October 3, 2015, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

                  I don't understand why Powerball doesn't go with a real HARD matrix?  It's still going to be way too easy to win in places like Michigan.

                  If Powerball wants to give us bigger jackpots, then they need to actually make it HARD to win.

                  Here's what I'd propose...computer draw...white balls from 1 to 9,999,999,999,999.  Powerball from 1 to 999,999.   Keep it a 5 + 1 game.

                  I'd like to see certain states win this 5 or more times a year LOL.

                  Being the upstanding person that you are Prince- How about leveling with the Forum and telling us how MANY jackpots you have won? Letting us know will allow us take you a lot more serious and give your advice a spine!

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                    That's awesome!  That's what the odds need to be for us to have large jackpots.

                    Even with those odds that need scientific notation to calculate, it would still be way too easy for some winners to win it, but there would be less winners overall leading to larger jackpots.

                    I was watching an old rerun of "The Millionare" and it brought back memories when not so long ago a million dollars was considered a life changing amount.  Jackpots of $100M-$300M might not seem large to you but that's more than enough for the groups of players PB and MM are targeting.

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                      Posted: October 3, 2015, 3:20 pm - IP Logged

                      Odds of winning that would be

                      1 : 833,332,499,998,750,001,250,000,708,332,624,999,812,500,187,500,022,833,310,499,999,000,000

                      Green laugh ROFL

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                        While you're proposing change: Why not propose that the Price for each Ticket be raised to $100.00 each?

                        Reality vs Absurdity!

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                          I don't understand why Powerball doesn't go with a real HARD matrix?  It's still going to be way too easy to win in places like Michigan.

                          If Powerball wants to give us bigger jackpots, then they need to actually make it HARD to win.

                          Here's what I'd propose...computer draw...white balls from 1 to 9,999,999,999,999.  Powerball from 1 to 999,999.   Keep it a 5 + 1 game.

                          I'd like to see certain states win this 5 or more times a year LOL.

                          Since PB is rigged does it really matter the odds?  Somebody in FL or CA is going to win it anyway.

                          When the matrix was 5/45, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                          When the matrix was changed 5/49, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                          When the matrix was changed 5/53, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                          When the matrix was changed 5/55, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                          When the matrix was changed 5/59,  there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                          Can anybody spot the trend here?

                          When the matrix is changed 5/69, there will be no billion dollar jackpots, and sales will slump.

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                            heres the trollolllol guy singing the trollololol song,. i ony bring it out for trolls.  do you want any more response?

                            LOL. The troll song. Just for the stupid trolls.

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                              Since PB is rigged does it really matter the odds?  Somebody in FL or CA is going to win it anyway.

                              When the matrix was 5/45, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                              When the matrix was changed 5/49, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                              When the matrix was changed 5/53, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                              When the matrix was changed 5/55, there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                              When the matrix was changed 5/59,  there were no billion dollar jackpots, and sales slumped.

                              Can anybody spot the trend here?

                              When the matrix is changed 5/69, there will be no billion dollar jackpots, and sales will slump.

                              ... And the powers that be just simply can't get past their GREED factor!  I used to play 20 tickets a draw years ago because I actually thought the increase in odds warranted the extra tickets.  However, this has decreased with each matrix change, and now with this most recent change I plan to play just one ticket per draw, just to be in it.  However, no actual thoughts of winning surface, which is the real reason to play in the first place.  No hope to win, no real reason to play. 

                              To put it in perspective, if EVERY adult in the United States had one ticket with unique numbers for a drawing there will still be a 20% chance NO one will win!  With the matrix that was just abandoned (the one that just hit for $310 mil in Michigan) it was impossible for every adult in the US to each have unique numbers thus a jackpot winner would be guaranteed and 50 million additional players stood the chance of also being a jackpot winner.  Thus, there was a reasonable chance, though remote, to hope for a jackpot win.

                              Now the Powerball is promoting the measly $4 win as something special?  With odds of 1:24.9 I would spend close to $50 to win $4, and I am supposed to be excited about that? 

                              Bottom line, players play to win the real money, not four bucks!  If I don't feel I can win the major prize, and with the new matrix on Powerball I do not, I am not putting forth the effort.  And in terms of effort, respective of the lottery, that equates to cash that is not going to be played on their "new and improved" Powerball game.

                                I'm feeling a jackpot win coming my way!