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# Reference Box Improved

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Reference Box and my pairs coinciding
Should bring Digit 0..  at some point

03..07..00

034 037 073 093 103 130 203 230 703 730 003 030 033
094 194 294 794
104 134 174 194
107 137 170 173 174 197 177
203 230 234 237 273 293 233
003 004 007 030 070 090 100 200 700

Reduction

034 037 073 093 103 130 203 230 703 730 003 030 033
094 794
104 134 174
107 137 170 173 197 177
234 237 273 293 233
004 007  070 090 100 200 700

Hi Blackapple

Tks for posting Hope your felling better....

I'v been using Ref Box for Years, One thing I found ,The hits are slow coming .

The pairs come from the top  columns and top 4 rolls right ...As for the 3 Digit

Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

077

130   Pairs from first 2 columns = 07 03 09 00 17 13 19 10

793                                               77 73 79 70 27 23 29 20

204

442

966

315

528

859      Use digits 8 9 1 bottom 3rd column

681

you would get this

071, 078, 079, 031, 038, 039, 091, 098, 099, 001, 008, 009

, 171, 178, 179, 131, 138, 139, 191, 198, 199, 101, 108, 109,

771, 778, 779, 731, 738, 739, 791, 798, 799, 701, 708, 709,

271, 278, 279, 231, 238, 239, 291, 298, 299, 201, 208, 209

I posted this thread to see if people have better Ideas than mine.

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It's in the lottery post folder

page 4, <snip> system

https://app.box.com/s/dd34d3854af6211a8057

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PA mid draw front pairs did not show in 2015,2016
17x,21x,49x,552,935 (3)

PA eve draw front pairs for str8 plays 2016 that haven't hit yet
17x,28x (2)
common front both draws 17x

singles that haven't hit in either draw yet
017,123,234
doubles
002,220,221,
557,662,775,991,992,994,996

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Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

077

130   Pairs from first 2 columns = 07 03 09 00 17 13 19 10

793                                               77 73 79 70 27 23 29 20

204

442

966

315

528

859      Use digits 8 9 1 bottom 3rd column

681

you would get this

071, 078, 079, 031, 038, 039, 091, 098, 099, 001, 008, 009

, 171, 178, 179, 131, 138, 139, 191, 198, 199, 101, 108, 109,

771, 778, 779, 731, 738, 739, 791, 798, 799, 701, 708, 709,

271, 278, 279, 231, 238, 239, 291, 298, 299, 201, 208, 209

That's smart using Hot and cold

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Michigan Lottery 10/6-10/9

315

528          The cold part wheeled

859

681

315 318 319 321 325 328 329 351 358 359

381 385 389 518 519 521 528 529 581 589

615 618 619 621 625 628 629 651BX 658 659

681 685 689 815 819 821 825 829 851 859

311 355 388 511 515 525 551 558 559 585

588 611 655 688 811 818 828 855 858 881

885 889

___________________________________________

We see Top key Digits:1,5,8
We see Top Root sum:3,7,9
We see Top pair:58x
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I will experiment with your workout

## ________________

077.....07x

130.....01x...03x..31x

793.....37x...39x..

442

966

315.....31x...35x..15x

528.....52x...58x..

859 .....58x...59x..

681

PLotting out this like Honey's (HITS) System

Uniting the pairs..

013, 015, 017, 035, 037, 039, 125, 135, 137, 139,

158, 159, 235, 258, 259, 357, 358, 359, 379, 589

_______________________________________________________________________

By the way Root sum 5 or 9 under consideration

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Michigan Lottery 10/6-10/9

315

528          The cold part wheeled

859

681

315 318 319 321 325 328 329 351 358 359

381 385 389 518 519 521 528 529 581 589

615 618 619 621 625 628 629 651BX 658 659

681 685 689 815 819 821 825 829 851 859

311 355 388 511 515 525 551 558 559 585

588 611 655 688 811 818 828 855 858 881

885 889

___________________________________________

We see Top key Digits:1,5,8
We see Top Root sum:3,7,9
We see Top pair:58x
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tks I'll I back test the bottom ,also look into the Middle part up and coming Digits.

May be with all three parts come up with some kind of system .

Also I'll look into Root Sums and Sums of Pairs, and see if I can come up,with a new type of

Reference Box.

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Michigan

077
130
793            The Hot part wheeled
204

034 037 073 074 093 094 097 103 104 107
130 134 137 170 173 174 190 193 194 197
203 204 207 230 234 237 270 273 274 290
293 294 297 703 704 730 734 790 793 794
003 004 007 030 033 070 077 090 100 133
177 200 233 277 700 707 733 737 770 773
774 797
____________________
Be it Root sum or sums
Find what sticks out
034 007 070 133 700
037 073 190 703 730
074 137 173 290 704
194 293 734 077 707 770
_____________________________________________

315

528          The cold part wheeled

859

681

315 318 319 321 325 328 329 351 358 359

381 385 389 518 519 521 528 529 581 589

615 618 619 621 625 628 629 651 658 659

681 685 689 815 819 821 825 829 851 859

311 355 388 511 515 525 551 558 559 585

588 611 655 688 811 818 828 855 858 881

885 889

Be it Root sum or sums
Find what sticks out
318 381 615 651 525 588 858 885
358 385 529 619 628 511 655 889
315 351 621 819 558 585 828 855

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I will experiment with your workout

## ________________

077.....07x

130.....01x...03x..31x

793.....37x...39x..

442

966

315.....31x...35x..15x

528.....52x...58x..

859 .....58x...59x..

681

PLotting out this like Honey's (HITS) System

Uniting the pairs..

013, 015, 017, 035, 037, 039, 125, 135, 137, 139,

158, 159, 235, 258, 259, 357, 358, 359, 379, 589

_______________________________________________________________________

By the way Root sum 5 or 9 under consideration

Do you remember the Old Key Digit Trick?

I'll do it for Florida, it goes like this

730   last draw 10/6/eve

684    =7304865.916

485

667

534

988

685

751

531

296

ok  It works like this take the last ball that fell 730= 037 next 684=486 go down till you get all 10 Digits..

7304865.916  Use digits only once ..The keys for Florida Mid today are 916

You have to watch, last 3 digits like to pair up. 91 96 16 .. if your looking for few pairs ,This will work sometimes...

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Do you remember the Old Key Digit Trick?

I'll do it for Florida, it goes like this

730   last draw 10/6/eve

684    =7304865.916

485

667

534

988

685

751

531

296

ok  It works like this take the last ball that fell 730= 037 next 684=486 go down till you get all 10 Digits..

7304865.916  Use digits only once ..The keys for Florida Mid today are 916

You have to watch, last 3 digits like to pair up. 91 96 16 .. if your looking for few pairs ,This will work sometimes...

As you can see the keys hit Mid  KEYS  9  1  and 6 The number 1 key Hit  Mid=571 also the bottom of RB hit

The way way Blackapple showed us Hit....the old tricks still work..

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Hi Blackapple

Tks for posting Hope your felling better....

I'v been using Ref Box for Years, One thing I found ,The hits are slow coming .

The pairs come from the top  columns and top 4 rolls right ...As for the 3 Digit

Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

077

130   Pairs from first 2 columns = 07 03 09 00 17 13 19 10

793                                               77 73 79 70 27 23 29 20

204

442

966

315

528

859      Use digits 8 9 1 bottom 3rd column

681

you would get this

071, 078, 079, 031, 038, 039, 091, 098, 099, 001, 008, 009

, 171, 178, 179, 131, 138, 139, 191, 198, 199, 101, 108, 109,

771, 778, 779, 731, 738, 739, 791, 798, 799, 701, 708, 709,

271, 278, 279, 231, 238, 239, 291, 298, 299, 201, 208, 209

I posted this thread to see if people have better Ideas than mine.

TasBob,

The 8 9 1 in the 3rd column may not be a good indication of what is actually cold. What I also do is arrange the numbers from hottest to coldest overall.  Like so...RB's for todays midday.  Last 14 draws starting from yesterday.
839, 591, 710, 881, 003, 031, 973, 765, 846, 279, 781, 972, 241, 007.

The 0's and 7's are near  the top in each.  The 5th hottest 0, is in the top of the 12 draw RB above the 1-8-9.
In the 14 RB the 0-7 are both in the top of the RB, which is what you might expect since they are the 2 hottest #'s overall. However the 1-8-9  are near the bottom. Although clearly the 1-8 are the 2 CURRENT hottest digits in the last 4 draws.

One thing to consider is that the numbers in the RB's take time to move up and down. There is only one 7 in the last 6 draws, however look where the 7's are in each RB. The 12 RB shows it still being quite hot although it is obviously cooling off. The 1-8 in the 12 RB looks like they are starting to move up. Older RB's may give a good indication of this.

All that being said, todays midday # was 779, a straight hit, so go figure...LOL
The question is, where did the 7's come from? Evidence says they're getting cold, but the RB says NO! And the RB was right!

12 draw RB                                                       14 draw RB

0 7 1     Digits hottest to coldest 12 draws            7 4 0               Digits hottest to coldest  14 draws
7 0 3                                                                 0 2 5
8 3 9     7 1 8 9 0 - 3 2 5 6 4                               4 5 8              7 0 1 8 9 - 3 2 4 5 6
2 4 0                                                                 6 7 2

9 8 2                                                                 9 3 3
5 1 5                                                                 3 6 6
1 6 7                                                                 5 8 7
3 9 6                                                                 8 9 1
4 2 4                                                                 1 0 4
6 5 8                                                                 2 1 9

"You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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TasBob,

The 8 9 1 in the 3rd column may not be a good indication of what is actually cold. What I also do is arrange the numbers from hottest to coldest overall.  Like so...RB's for todays midday.  Last 14 draws starting from yesterday.
839, 591, 710, 881, 003, 031, 973, 765, 846, 279, 781, 972, 241, 007.

The 0's and 7's are near  the top in each.  The 5th hottest 0, is in the top of the 12 draw RB above the 1-8-9.
In the 14 RB the 0-7 are both in the top of the RB, which is what you might expect since they are the 2 hottest #'s overall. However the 1-8-9  are near the bottom. Although clearly the 1-8 are the 2 CURRENT hottest digits in the last 4 draws.

One thing to consider is that the numbers in the RB's take time to move up and down. There is only one 7 in the last 6 draws, however look where the 7's are in each RB. The 12 RB shows it still being quite hot although it is obviously cooling off. The 1-8 in the 12 RB looks like they are starting to move up. Older RB's may give a good indication of this.

All that being said, todays midday # was 779, a straight hit, so go figure...LOL
The question is, where did the 7's come from? Evidence says they're getting cold, but the RB says NO! And the RB was right!

12 draw RB                                                       14 draw RB

0 7 1     Digits hottest to coldest 12 draws            7 4 0               Digits hottest to coldest  14 draws
7 0 3                                                                 0 2 5
8 3 9     7 1 8 9 0 - 3 2 5 6 4                               4 5 8              7 0 1 8 9 - 3 2 4 5 6
2 4 0                                                                 6 7 2

9 8 2                                                                 9 3 3
5 1 5                                                                 3 6 6
1 6 7                                                                 5 8 7
3 9 6                                                                 8 9 1
4 2 4                                                                 1 0 4
6 5 8                                                                 2 1 9

Hi Grwurston

Now that's the kind of input I like...I will look into the above,and study it.

Thank you very much, A lot to learn for us all.

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Hi Grwurston

Now that's the kind of input I like...I will look into the above,and study it.

Thank you very much, A lot to learn for us all.

Hey, you're welcome.
When I was doing the RB's, back when they first came out, I did one for each day and both draws so I could see what was going up or down. I did 20 and 12 draws, but eventually settled on 14. 14 worked better for me at the time.

However, I couldn't say if one is better than the other right now. It's been awhile since I used them. But back then I didn't know as much about filtering, so 64 #'s was way too much for me to play. But the RB's did work for both box and straight. There was about a 4 month stretch where 10-14 straights a month was routine. But as I said, it was more than I could afford to spend. And eventually it cooled off. Keep in mind though, that it can get hot and cold like any other method.
Maybe I'll have to get back into it again...

"You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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lets see what hits

ref box

day(Fla)

4  6  8

3  8  1

2  7  7

9  5  5

pairs 48,43,18,13

485 481 348 488 468 487

375 378 367 371 381 388 385

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I sometimes make my ref boxes by every 5th using day/night from previous month (for next month)or the first week  so in using Fla I got this using  10/1-7...lets see what hits tomorrow

7  8  4

6  3  1

5  9  5

9  7  9

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Tks for posting

A nice mix on Pairs and 3rd Digits

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