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TasBob's avatar - 4NJ9EUA
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Posted: October 8, 2015, 7:20 am - IP Logged

I sometimes make my ref boxes by every 5th using day/night from previous month (for next month)or the first week  so in using Fla I got this using  10/1-7...lets see what hits tomorrow

7  8  4

6  3  1

5  9  5

9  7  9

Interesting     I know a lot of people here use Sun to Mon or Wed to Thur. 

For there work out for the week... from both your posts  I call what your doing is cycles. We could 

do a whole thread on that..A few years back I did a lot of work on monthly and yearly Cycles.

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    So is this box good for a try today in Florida?

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      Thx for posting deja vu

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        So is this box good for a try today in Florida?

        Yes it is But let's keep this to finding new ways of using the  Rb Tks

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          All of the various workouts that are discussed on LP got me thinking.  What about a comprehensive strategy that uses them all.  The “Reference Box” is the Key Component of that or any strategy.  Reducing the workout to a set of numbers that are Wheeled in some fashion is what we all do to get our picks or predictions.  It is what feeds the  Reference Box that is the real strategy.  Most seam to be derived from pick frequency for numbers in each number column for the selected Game Period that are sorted in some fashion.  Reference boxes derived this way can be further manipulated by using mirror numbers or combinations of mirrors and numbers.  There are quite a lot of variations possible from this one strategy alone; but, what about using more…many more.  Formulas involving previous numbers added or subtracted to themselves or constants, Squaring numbers in formulas, or any other equation that you can program can all be used (I have found that you need at least one subtraction in a formula or it rarely equals 0  using root sums, any suggestions on an alternative to or modification of root sums is something I am looking for).  Looking at Games Out for numbers, pairs, triads, quads or quints as a basis of selection is another strategy.  Fill in the blank for any other strategies you can think of.  All of these strategies can feed a reference box.  Creating multiple boxes from each strategy and watching them perform could lead to a formula for selection from each box for your picks.

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            Posted: October 10, 2015, 1:32 am - IP Logged

            I sometimes make my ref boxes by every 5th using day/night from previous month (for next month)or the first week  so in using Fla I got this using  10/1-7...lets see what hits tomorrow

            7  8  4

            6  3  1

            5  9  5

            9  7  9

            7  8  4

            6  3  1

            9  5

            9  7  9

            str

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              Posted: October 10, 2015, 7:56 am - IP Logged

              TasBob,

              The 8 9 1 in the 3rd column may not be a good indication of what is actually cold. What I also do is arrange the numbers from hottest to coldest overall.  Like so...RB's for todays midday.  Last 14 draws starting from yesterday.
              839, 591, 710, 881, 003, 031, 973, 765, 846, 279, 781, 972, 241, 007.

              The 0's and 7's are near  the top in each.  The 5th hottest 0, is in the top of the 12 draw RB above the 1-8-9.
              In the 14 RB the 0-7 are both in the top of the RB, which is what you might expect since they are the 2 hottest #'s overall. However the 1-8-9  are near the bottom. Although clearly the 1-8 are the 2 CURRENT hottest digits in the last 4 draws.

              One thing to consider is that the numbers in the RB's take time to move up and down. There is only one 7 in the last 6 draws, however look where the 7's are in each RB. The 12 RB shows it still being quite hot although it is obviously cooling off. The 1-8 in the 12 RB looks like they are starting to move up. Older RB's may give a good indication of this.

              All that being said, todays midday # was 779, a straight hit, so go figure...LOL
              The question is, where did the 7's come from? Evidence says they're getting cold, but the RB says NO! And the RB was right!

              12 draw RB                                                       14 draw RB

              0 7 1     Digits hottest to coldest 12 draws            7 4 0               Digits hottest to coldest  14 draws
              7 0 3                                                                 0 2 5
              8 3 9     7 1 8 9 0 - 3 2 5 6 4                               4 5 8              7 0 1 8 9 - 3 2 4 5 6
              2 4 0                                                                 6 7 2

              9 8 2                                                                 9 3 3
              5 1 5                                                                 3 6 6
              1 6 7                                                                 5 8 7
              3 9 6                                                                 8 9 1
              4 2 4                                                                 1 0 4
              6 5 8                                                                 2 1 9

                                                                               Update

              There's a lot of good ideas That are on this thread .Looking into some of them now. but it takes time to work on them..Test them

              to see if they work. I would like to see some more input from others reading this thread. Ok on the above one,thing i'm looking

              into is how to use hot and cold numbers, and put them into RB to make it stronger.

              12 draw RB                                                       14 draw RB

              0 7 1     Digits hottest to coldest 12 draws            7 4 0               Digits hottest to coldest  14 draws
              7 0 3                                                                 0 2 5
              8 3 9     7 1 8 9 0 - 3 2 5 6 4                               4 5 8              7 0 1 8 9 - 3 2 4 5 6
              2 4 0                                                                 6 7 2

              9 8 2                                                                 9 3 3
              5 1 5                                                                 3 6 6
              1 6 7                                                                 5 8 7
              3 9 6                                                                 8 9 1
              4 2 4                                                                 1 0 4
              6 5 8                                                                 2 1 9

              From the above the  hottest to coldest , and the number of draws to use. And make some type of RB using this data.

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                 This is the Reference Box for Oct 6 for Michigan:

                Hi Blackapple

                Tks for posting Hope your felling better....

                I'v been using Ref Box for Years, One thing I found ,The hits are slow coming .

                The pairs come from the top  columns and top 4 rolls right ...As for the 3 Digit

                Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

                 

                 

                Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

                077

                130   Pairs from first 2 columns = 07 03 09 00 17 13 19 10 

                793                                               77 73 79 70 27 23 29 20 

                204

                442 

                966

                315

                528

                859      Use digits 8 9 1 bottom 3rd column

                681

                you would get this

                071, 078, 079, 031, 038, 039, 091, 098, 099, 001, 008, 009

                , 171, 178, 179, 131, 138, 139, 191, 198, 199, 101, 108, 109,

                771, 778, 779, 731, 738, 739, 791, 798, 799, 701, 708, 709,

                271, 278, 279, 231, 238, 239, 291, 298, 299, 201, 208, 209

                 

                That's smart using Hot and cold

                Thu, Oct 8, 20152-3-1
                Sat, Oct 10, 20159-7-1
                Fri, Oct 9, 20159-8-1

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                   This is the Reference Box for Oct 6 for Michigan:

                  Hi Blackapple

                  Tks for posting Hope your felling better....

                  I'v been using Ref Box for Years, One thing I found ,The hits are slow coming .

                  The pairs come from the top  columns and top 4 rolls right ...As for the 3 Digit

                  Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

                   

                   

                  Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

                  077

                  130   Pairs from first 2 columns = 07 03 09 00 17 13 19 10 

                  793                                               77 73 79 70 27 23 29 20 

                  204

                  442 

                  966

                  315

                  528

                  859      Use digits 8 9 1 bottom 3rd column

                  681

                  you would get this

                  071, 078, 079, 031, 038, 039, 091, 098, 099, 001, 008, 009

                  , 171, 178, 179, 131, 138, 139, 191, 198, 199, 101, 108, 109,

                  771, 778, 779, 731, 738, 739, 791, 798, 799, 701, 708, 709,

                  271, 278, 279, 231, 238, 239, 291, 298, 299, 201, 208, 209

                   

                  That's smart using Hot and cold

                  Thu, Oct 8, 20152-3-1
                  Sat, Oct 10, 20159-7-1
                  Fri, Oct 9, 20159-8-1

                  are you doing better bud quick question is the reference box good for other states too or just Michigan TX had 770 morning  and 013 midday

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                    7  8  4

                    6  3  1

                    5  9  5

                    7  9

                     

                    Friday, October 9, 2015

                    Evening
                    691 str
                    Saturday, October 10, 2015

                    Midday
                    755 bx

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                      All of the various workouts that are discussed on LP got me thinking.  What about a comprehensive strategy that uses them all.  The “Reference Box” is the Key Component of that or any strategy.  Reducing the workout to a set of numbers that are Wheeled in some fashion is what we all do to get our picks or predictions.  It is what feeds the  Reference Box that is the real strategy.  Most seam to be derived from pick frequency for numbers in each number column for the selected Game Period that are sorted in some fashion.  Reference boxes derived this way can be further manipulated by using mirror numbers or combinations of mirrors and numbers.  There are quite a lot of variations possible from this one strategy alone; but, what about using more…many more.  Formulas involving previous numbers added or subtracted to themselves or constants, Squaring numbers in formulas, or any other equation that you can program can all be used (I have found that you need at least one subtraction in a formula or it rarely equals 0  using root sums, any suggestions on an alternative to or modification of root sums is something I am looking for).  Looking at Games Out for numbers, pairs, triads, quads or quints as a basis of selection is another strategy.  Fill in the blank for any other strategies you can think of.  All of these strategies can feed a reference box.  Creating multiple boxes from each strategy and watching them perform could lead to a formula for selection from each box for your picks.

                      I would like to see response to the post above.

                      This type of thinking can take you above and beyond the average system .

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                         This is the Reference Box for Oct 6 for Michigan:

                        Hi Blackapple

                        Tks for posting Hope your felling better....

                        I'v been using Ref Box for Years, One thing I found ,The hits are slow coming .

                        The pairs come from the top  columns and top 4 rolls right ...As for the 3 Digit

                        Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

                         

                         

                        Go to 3rd column take last 3 digits ...It Would look like this.

                        077

                        130   Pairs from first 2 columns = 07 03 09 00 17 13 19 10 

                        793                                               77 73 79 70 27 23 29 20 

                        204

                        442 

                        966

                        315

                        528

                        859      Use digits 8 9 1 bottom 3rd column

                        681

                        you would get this

                        071, 078, 079, 031, 038, 039, 091, 098, 099, 001, 008, 009

                        , 171, 178, 179, 131, 138, 139, 191, 198, 199, 101, 108, 109,

                        771, 778, 779, 731, 738, 739, 791, 798, 799, 701, 708, 709,

                        271, 278, 279, 231, 238, 239, 291, 298, 299, 201, 208, 209

                         

                        That's smart using Hot and cold

                        Thu, Oct 8, 20152-3-1
                        Sat, Oct 10, 20159-7-1
                        Fri, Oct 9, 20159-8-1

                        As u can see above , new ways using old systems Works 3 Hits there.

                        There's a lot of other tricks u can use to get more Hits, with your systems.

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                          7  8  4

                          6  3  1

                          5  9  5

                          7  9

                           

                          Friday, October 9, 2015

                          Evening
                          691 str
                          Saturday, October 10, 2015

                          Midday
                          755 bx

                          The Box also hit with a straight on 10/7/25 D 5-7-1

                          If this Box Was used for the Month of October 2015, so far it hits 6 Straigts and 3 Boxes

                          N....i....c....e Box

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                            And Box 575 Today. 

                            Don't Change until you have to.  The box cycles about every 7 to 10 days for about 5 hits  out of 10 going back about 825 games.

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                              And Box 575 Today. 

                              Don't Change until you have to.  The box cycles about every 7 to 10 days for about 5 hits  out of 10 going back about 825 games.

                              How many draws do use  In the RB when counting  cycles ?

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