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Posted: November 23, 2015, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

How long would you test a system with paper bets before going live with it? 

I've got two P3 systems I've been working on.  One I've been playing on the predidction board for 3 weeks. So far, so good, but it's been betting more lines than I'm comfortable playing in real life. 

System #2 is a new idea, it waits for a setup pattern, then plays 30 lines.  The setup pattern has been happening, on average, once a week.  The setup happened yesterday midday and this system won on a box yesterday evening.  It looks OK in back testing, yesterday was the first forward test. 

I've never been a P3 or P4 player in the past, except for a couple of lines played on a hunch last month.

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    Posted: November 23, 2015, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

    How long would you test a system with paper bets before going live with it? 

    I've got two P3 systems I've been working on.  One I've been playing on the predidction board for 3 weeks. So far, so good, but it's been betting more lines than I'm comfortable playing in real life. 

    System #2 is a new idea, it waits for a setup pattern, then plays 30 lines.  The setup pattern has been happening, on average, once a week.  The setup happened yesterday midday and this system won on a box yesterday evening.  It looks OK in back testing, yesterday was the first forward test. 

    I've never been a P3 or P4 player in the past, except for a couple of lines played on a hunch last month.

    Good question. The next question would be, does it hit consistently? Or should I say, your definition of consistently. Maybe that's twice a week, four times a week, every other draw... If it doesn't hit quite as often as you like, possibly it needs a little tweaking to improve it. It doesn't cost anything to practice on paper. So take your time to perfect it. When you can hit as often as you want on paper, then go for it.

    If it is a good system, I would think a couple of hits would put you ahead enough, so that you would not have to be concerned about playing too many numbers.

    Good Luck to you with it!!!

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      Posted: November 24, 2015, 6:27 am - IP Logged

      How long would you test a system with paper bets before going live with it? 

      I've got two P3 systems I've been working on.  One I've been playing on the predidction board for 3 weeks. So far, so good, but it's been betting more lines than I'm comfortable playing in real life. 

      System #2 is a new idea, it waits for a setup pattern, then plays 30 lines.  The setup pattern has been happening, on average, once a week.  The setup happened yesterday midday and this system won on a box yesterday evening.  It looks OK in back testing, yesterday was the first forward test. 

      I've never been a P3 or P4 player in the past, except for a couple of lines played on a hunch last month.

      Maybe if you post it, someone else may be able to help you tweak or can give their input to something that may generate more hits, just a thought.  Sometimes we overlook the obvious.

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        Posted: November 24, 2015, 6:33 am - IP Logged

        I would back-test a system on at least a couple of months worth of data.  Then, if it seems to be good, I would play on paper for a couple of weeks. 

        If it is triggered by a special set-up I would go back and find at least 10 instances where the set-up existed and see what the system produced on those occasions.

        "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

        ~Robert A. Heinlein

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          Posted: November 24, 2015, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

          How long would you test a system with paper bets before going live with it? 

          I've got two P3 systems I've been working on.  One I've been playing on the predidction board for 3 weeks. So far, so good, but it's been betting more lines than I'm comfortable playing in real life. 

          System #2 is a new idea, it waits for a setup pattern, then plays 30 lines.  The setup pattern has been happening, on average, once a week.  The setup happened yesterday midday and this system won on a box yesterday evening.  It looks OK in back testing, yesterday was the first forward test. 

          I've never been a P3 or P4 player in the past, except for a couple of lines played on a hunch last month.

          "I've got two P3 systems I've been working on.  One I've been playing on the prediction board for 3 weeks. So far, so good, but it's been betting more lines than I'm comfortable playing in real life." 

          A good system would usually win more than it cost to play it and if you're uncomfortable doing that then you're not ready to go live.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: November 24, 2015, 3:43 pm - IP Logged

            How long would you test a system with paper bets before going live with it? 

            I've got two P3 systems I've been working on.  One I've been playing on the predidction board for 3 weeks. So far, so good, but it's been betting more lines than I'm comfortable playing in real life. 

            System #2 is a new idea, it waits for a setup pattern, then plays 30 lines.  The setup pattern has been happening, on average, once a week.  The setup happened yesterday midday and this system won on a box yesterday evening.  It looks OK in back testing, yesterday was the first forward test. 

            I've never been a P3 or P4 player in the past, except for a couple of lines played on a hunch last month.

            If it somehow works, you might get 75% while the expectancy is 50%. Many don't even get their 50%.

            If you can make 2000 of 1000 dollars, then go for it.

            There is no dry swimming, water is wet!

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              Posted: November 24, 2015, 10:08 pm - IP Logged

              Thank you all for your helpful and interesting comments. 

               

              Grinding out frequent small wins would be my ideal situation. Beting the game odds seems achievable, beating the house(state) advantage is different matter. 

              I just noticed that IL lets you bet on front and back pairs in P3, I'm going to explore what I can do with that.

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                Posted: November 26, 2015, 11:40 am - IP Logged

                If it somehow works, you might get 75% while the expectancy is 50%. Many don't even get their 50%.

                If you can make 2000 of 1000 dollars, then go for it.

                There is no dry swimming, water is wet!

                One should start out with games that have the best overall odds of a hit, those with a 1:10 or better.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: November 26, 2015, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

                  One should start out with games that have the best overall odds of a hit, those with a 1:10 or better.

                   I usually propose the French European roulette with one zero.

                   Bet on 19 numbers chance simple, like passe, rouge or impair for example, to double your 20 bucks.
                     Next step would be to play the douzaines and colonnes or séries.
                     Than you can try transversales simples and pleines, also voisins.
                     ...
                     Bet 20 on red, get 40.
                     Bet 500 on low at pick 3, get 500.
                     This written, start in the casino, not with the lottery.

                   (Above I used the proper French terms.)

                   Note that the numbers on the American wheel are not in the same order.

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                    Posted: November 28, 2015, 5:49 pm - IP Logged

                    Hi ArizonaDream,

                    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by going 'live' --- I'm thinking 'live' means you either want to share your system with others, or your going to start buying tickets.

                    I always felt it good measure to share want you discover with like minds, and there is no better reward of good work than to get a return ---so why not play as you learn, if ya got a few bucks extra to do so? 

                    For the last 3 years, I have been doing a deep game analysis of the pick 3 draw games in 3 states- New Jersey, New York, and Ohio.  I live and play in Ohio, but I have family in New Jersey, and friends in New York who enjoy my picks which is why I've singled out those states,

                    anyhoo---

                    I just recently revamped the design of my own deep game analysis and how I use it to predict trends, because while doing so I notice something interesting happening between Midday games and Evening games of the same state when I decided to bring he games together in my worksheet.

                    I immediately started sharing it (or going 'live') with my fans, my family, frineds and my clients---and getting both accuracy and misses.  I even started posting my new observations on my business's Facebook page, I figure folks are more apt to feel my honesty if I offer them both my wins and my failures as I give them the data for free.

                    ...as one of my favorite blues guartists has said in song, "Stand Up in it"!

                    Enjoy your numbers!

                    ~TheseStars~

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