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# All or Nothing - (why do I only hit 5,6,7?)

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Kentucky
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 Posted: December 8, 2015, 5:11 pm - IP Logged

"What is the correlation between the 5,6 or 7 numbers that roll over and the fact that most of us only hit 5, 6 or 7 numbers?"

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When I first started predicting AorN, I divided the 24 numbers into four groups of 6 and combined them into four sets. By doing that it created a mathematical effect by matching 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12 numbers, one of the other tickets matches 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0 numbers.

The strategy is very similar to abbreviated wheels that can produce multiple secondary prizes with only a small percentage chance of winning the jackpot.

mid-Ohio
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When I first started predicting AorN, I divided the 24 numbers into four groups of 6 and combined them into four sets. By doing that it created a mathematical effect by matching 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12 numbers, one of the other tickets matches 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0 numbers.

The strategy is very similar to abbreviated wheels that can produce multiple secondary prizes with only a small percentage chance of winning the jackpot.

I posted predictions for AON for a while to get my prediction average up but I just used the LP RNG since the overall average of winning a prize was 1:4.5.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

mid-Ohio
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 Posted: December 9, 2015, 6:56 pm - IP Logged

When I first started predicting AorN, I divided the 24 numbers into four groups of 6 and combined them into four sets. By doing that it created a mathematical effect by matching 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12 numbers, one of the other tickets matches 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0 numbers.

The strategy is very similar to abbreviated wheels that can produce multiple secondary prizes with only a small percentage chance of winning the jackpot.

I looked at jackpot games played in Ohio and based on their odds and payouts and calculated what one could expect to win if they spent a \$100.

GAME                      JACKPOT ODDS      OVERALL ODDS       EXPECTED WINNINGS
Classic Lotto(6/49)          1:13,983,816      1:53.6             2 wins for \$4
Rolling Cash5(5/39)          1:575,575         1:8.7              11 wins for \$20
Lucky for Life(5/48+1/18)    1:30,821,472      1:7.7              6 wins for \$23
MegaMillions(5/75+1/15)      1:258,890,850     1:14.7             7 wins for \$9
PowerBall(5/69+1/26)         1:292,201,338     1:24.8             2 wins for \$8

While these aren't as good as Texas All or Nothing game, I think there's a good selection.

All or Nothing(12/24)        1:2,704,156       1:4.5              13 wins for \$40

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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 Posted: December 9, 2015, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

This is a wheel that I made with my program.

Try it for predictions on LP.

Totals: 0:10 1:1440 2:43560 3:484000 4:2450250 5:6272640 6:8537760 7:6272640 8:2450250 9:484000 10:43560 11:1440 12:10

 01-02-03-05-06-08-09-12-13-17-19-20 01-02-03-07-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-19 01-02-04-06-07-10-11-12-15-17-18-20 01-02-04-06-08-09-10-11-12-14-16-19 01-03-04-05-07-08-11-12-13-14-18-20 01-03-04-07-08-09-11-15-16-17-18-19 02-03-04-05-06-07-09-13-15-16-18-20 02-05-06-07-10-11-13-14-16-17-19-20 03-04-05-08-09-10-12-13-14-15-16-17 05-06-07-08-09-10-12-14-15-18-19-20

mid-Ohio
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 Posted: December 9, 2015, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

This is a wheel that I made with my program.

Try it for predictions on LP.

Totals: 0:10 1:1440 2:43560 3:484000 4:2450250 5:6272640 6:8537760 7:6272640 8:2450250 9:484000 10:43560 11:1440 12:10

 01-02-03-05-06-08-09-12-13-17-19-20 01-02-03-07-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-19 01-02-04-06-07-10-11-12-15-17-18-20 01-02-04-06-08-09-10-11-12-14-16-19 01-03-04-05-07-08-11-12-13-14-18-20 01-03-04-07-08-09-11-15-16-17-18-19 02-03-04-05-06-07-09-13-15-16-18-20 02-05-06-07-10-11-13-14-16-17-19-20 03-04-05-08-09-10-12-13-14-15-16-17 05-06-07-08-09-10-12-14-15-18-19-20

"Try it for predictions on LP."

Why not post them yourself and take credit for your work?

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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 Posted: December 10, 2015, 3:49 am - IP Logged

I never hit the numbers that pay a substantial amount....like 1,2 or even 3. It always seems to be 5,6 or 7!!!

Straightforward mathematics.  Of the 2,704,156 combinations:
1 matches 12,
144 match 11,
4,356 match 10,
48,400 match 9,
245,025 match 8,
627,264 match 7,
853,776 match 6,
627,264 match 5,
245,025 match 4,
48,400 match 3,
4,356 match 2,
144 match 1,
and 1 matches 0.

That means that 2,108,324/2,704,156, or about 78% of tickets, will match 5, 6, or 7 numbers. By comparison, 1, 2, 3, 9, 10, and 11 combined will come up on 105,800/2,704,156, or about 3.9% of tickets. You are twenty times more likely to win nothing than to win a substantial amount.

This game is a NO-Win game, it was created that way so the state would win and not you.

But as somebody said, all lottery games are made so the state wins and not you.

It is just that some of them like this-one are much worse, but it is wrong for me to say that as most of them are as bad as this-one, don't worry your mind too much, even on the pick 3 game the state will win, I was told by the Tx state lottery that it is one of the big money makers (the pick 3 game).

Play for the fun of it, that is why people play lottery games, people who win the millions win by chance or at least most of them do.

Maybe the best winning technique for "smaller" games is one in which you TRACK, that is Tracking, Tracking something in some way or tracking some-things in some way or ways, as I said, for jackpot kind of games there is nothing like having "Luck" at least for most people.

I AM GONE, FOR A WHILE.

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 Posted: December 10, 2015, 6:58 am - IP Logged

"Try it for predictions on LP."

Why not post them yourself and take credit for your work?

It did >24% hit average for me for seven days on two states.

Statistic   Last Month
Picks560
Hits137
Hit Ratio24.46%
Winnings\$538
Prize Ratio48.04%

mid-Ohio
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 Posted: December 10, 2015, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

This game is a NO-Win game, it was created that way so the state would win and not you.

But as somebody said, all lottery games are made so the state wins and not you.

It is just that some of them like this-one are much worse, but it is wrong for me to say that as most of them are as bad as this-one, don't worry your mind too much, even on the pick 3 game the state will win, I was told by the Tx state lottery that it is one of the big money makers (the pick 3 game).

Play for the fun of it, that is why people play lottery games, people who win the millions win by chance or at least most of them do.

Maybe the best winning technique for "smaller" games is one in which you TRACK, that is Tracking, Tracking something in some way or tracking some-things in some way or ways, as I said, for jackpot kind of games there is nothing like having "Luck" at least for most people.

"This game is a NO-Win game, it was created that way so the state would win and not you."

Did I miss something?  Is this game unique in that nobody ever win?  Isn't every lottery game set up for the states to make money running them?

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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 Posted: December 22, 2015, 12:55 pm - IP Logged

"This game is a NO-Win game, it was created that way so the state would win and not you."

Did I miss something?  Is this game unique in that nobody ever win?  Isn't every lottery game set up for the states to make money running them?

Since they organized the lottery to more efficiently kill people and not to finance some lazy teachers or schools that suck with or without money ... . Please  note that taxes finance wars or simple the military. The last one to 50%, I once read, for the USA.

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