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PA Lottery seems a bit slow on releasing the numbers.

There was a problem with the Raffle drawing ...

The Lottery also announced that the holders of 348 Millionaire Raffle tickets sold after 8 p.m. on January 2 as the result of a sales system error will be eligible for a refund of the $20 purchase price. Under the game rules, only tickets sold before 8 p.m. may be considered for the drawing.

Those tickets, bearing the numbers 00473914 to 00474261, show a draw date of April 14, 2025. To claim a refund, those tickets should either be taken to one of the Lottery's Area Offices or mailed to Lottery Headquarters, attention: Security Department, 1200 Fulling Mill Road, Middletown, PA 17057.

In all, 473,913 valid tickets were sold for the New Year's Millionaire Raffle drawing.

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    yes , the site released the. numbers after 1 am. I am plum pleased when its not sell out. Players still win, and the odds increase! How is that unfavorable? I lost yet I cannot complain, its a game of chance. And having a chance is still a good thing. Looking forward to read the winners stories:)

    ~~Is it true, Is it kind,Is it necessary. ~~~

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      I've noticed more glitches lately when buying tickets. Some of the issues could be limited to self-service terminals, but I'm not so sure.

      PA Lottery has held numerous raffles in the past without such issues, so what changed this time?... Makes one wonder what other glitches are lurking inside PA Lottery computer systems, in particular, RNG used to choose numbers. Are they really random? Not rigged? Though interesting, this time around, 3 of the 4 the $million winners were in the lower end of the range with the 4th being near the middle, but I digress.

      As for the 348 ticket holders, the claim process is overly convoluted. Do claim centers ever issue checks on the spot? If no, those players will, presumably, be waiting weeks for a check, which they'll then have to cash / deposit. What a hassle for $20. The PA Lottery should simply allow those tickets to be cashed out at terminals. Would be much easier for both the lottery and the affected players.

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        I've noticed more glitches lately when buying tickets. Some of the issues could be limited to self-service terminals, but I'm not so sure.

        PA Lottery has held numerous raffles in the past without such issues, so what changed this time?... Makes one wonder what other glitches are lurking inside PA Lottery computer systems, in particular, RNG used to choose numbers. Are they really random? Not rigged? Though interesting, this time around, 3 of the 4 the $million winners were in the lower end of the range with the 4th being near the middle, but I digress.

        As for the 348 ticket holders, the claim process is overly convoluted. Do claim centers ever issue checks on the spot? If no, those players will, presumably, be waiting weeks for a check, which they'll then have to cash / deposit. What a hassle for $20. The PA Lottery should simply allow those tickets to be cashed out at terminals. Would be much easier for both the lottery and the affected players.

        This would seem to be the fault of the main Lottery computer not stopping ticket sales at 8pm ... it probably is and has been programmed to shut off sales at 500,000 ... but under that number ???

        Maybe it was human error ... if someone was to do this manually at 8pm ... shutting the game off.

        However, you  are correct about the hassle of a person getting their $20 returned. Why can't the tickets be taken to a human lottery terminal and get their $20 back "over the counter". Now they have to spend money on a stamp or gas and their time trying to get their money returned on the Lottery's mistake.

        I agree with you about the RNGs ... maybe the Lottery made sure more large prize winning numbers were not near the end or scattered around more. I have not checked any numbers yet but it's possible the Lottery made changes by having a newer RNG installed for this drawing.

        Of course we will never know anything for sure till there are more future raffle results.

        Speaking of future raffles ... here's the next one ... so much for a raffle every 3 months. I was figuring April 30th for the next drawing ... remember they were to be "seasonal" ... not Holiday or Special Day raffles but maybe not.

        From the Lottery:

        Millionaire Raffle, launched in 2005 and originally offered twice a year, is now offered four times a year. The St. Patrick's Day Millionaire Raffle will go on sale January 11 and will be drawn on March 19.

        It should have been a Spring raffle ... selling 500,000 in two months in Winter ... this drawing will go off while it is still officially Winter ... people struggling with heating bills and left over holiday bills ... doesn't make much sense to me ... the Lottery must need money bad ... are the other games down in sales?

        Spring arrives March 20th ... this might turn out to be the "best raffle" ever for the player with low ticket sales ... will see how it plays out.

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          I just checked my tickets for the pool I run at work. I bought 9 tickets on December the 6th. 

          Four of the nine numbers I bought that day were as follows; 075829, 075830, 075832 & 075833.

          You may have noticed that 075831 is missing from that set.  Well as luck would have it, it appears in the PDF file on The PA Lotteries website in the $100 winner category.  So somebody somewhere won a hundred bucks with it.

          But here's the even tougher part.  It may have been my brother that won that $100.  He gave me twenty dollars to buy him a ticket, and I might have pulled it out of my set of nine tickets that I bought on December 6th and handed it to him.  It's either that, or somebody someplace else in PA was buying a ticket at the same time I was, and they got ticket number 075831.  I certainly hope that's what happened because with all 16 of the tickets that I bought for the pool I run at work, we didn't win a dime last night!!

          See, I'm a tad nervous about my brother winning a hundred bucks last night, because for this past Fall's Halloween Millionaire Raffle, my brother gave me twenty bucks, and I bought him a ticket for that raffle. And he won a hundred bucks with the ticket I pulled out of my set of nine tickets that I bought that day.  I, of course, didn't win a dime in The Halloween raffle either.  G5

          And, Oh yeah! There's absolutely no way that I'm buying that fool another raffle ticket for the rest of either his life or mine. Our older brother told me I was "nuts" for buying him a raffle ticket because as he said; "You better be dam glad it was only a hundred bucks.  How the hell would you feel if he won a MILLION dollars?"  True dat!

          About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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            I live in PA and am tired of seeing the ads on the terminals for yet another raffle drawing.

            This next one will start sales on January 11th? So with the schedule of sales 4 times per year,

            its become no more special and in your face than say, Cash 5 or the daily games for that matter.

            The daily notifications on the website itself will tout GET YOUR'S before they sell out!!!

            Well, PA, so what...keep them. I will not play anymore because you got too big, too greedy and too

            predictable.

            A raffle in my opinion should be special and at $20 a ticket it's a lot to part with for some people yet

            the temptation and reminders are there constantly now with 4 draws/year to 'get your ticket'!

            There's little chance of going back now to 2 draws per year...they fell short on the last 2 raffles...so

            I would think the brains behind the bs won't back down now. 

            I think there are better odds happening upon an instant biggie.....no RNG there and for $20 you might win

            at least your money back. The pitiful mishap in selling tickets beyond 8pm should not have happened.

            These people will wait for their refunds...I wonder if as long as 6 weeks? They should be given their refund at 

            the terminal...I guess PA wants to examine the ticket to make sure it's legitimate...wow.

            I don't think we would have known the official count to where ticket sales stopped if there had not been a

            screw up.

            Word of mouth among players might have given us a roundabout number but actual #'s...no. They haven't

            revealed a remaining ticket countdown for the last 2 at least. So the 348?? people due refunds? I wonder if 

            they won anything? Was the problem discovered before posting the winning numbers? I also read the results

            were not posted until 2am or was it 1am?

            Another bum deal PA. Anyone left choosing to play good luck to you, after all, it's the best chance to win

            $1 Million Dollars, according to pitches but if the game integrity is in question...sales beyond 8pm??..

            Tickets voided with refunds? Laughable.

            Who do you trust?

            But then again, it's only $20......473,xxx times....

            246 ~~ 485 ~~ 369 ~~ 890 ~~ 705 ~~ 357 ~~ 129 ~~ 165 ~  007 ~ 225 ~ 818 ~ 440 ~  7775 5557

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              Posted: January 3, 2016, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

              Anyone wanting the raffle results can check Lottery Post's Pennsylvania Lottery Results page. (Scroll down to the Raffles section.)

              The PDF released by the PA Lottery is not entirely searchable, because all the numbers on the entire first page are contained in a non-searchable image, not text.  The Lottery Post raffle results page is entirely searchable.

               

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                In reply to Crazy Wombat:

                I too am surprised the next one is starting in a few days and ends March-19th. That's a lousy date, but maybe the PA Lottery has it all figured out this time. But doubt it though, since the 4th quarter raffle, which is a busy ticket buying time, didn't sell out. They'll be lucky to sell 300K tickets in 2 months during winter. May be a good time to play, but leery of glitches along with the remote possibility of PA Lottery flaking out and extending the deadline.

                In reply to G5:

                Your brother likely won again. Some have all the luck. Your older brother is spot on. Only buy for yourself. And I'd further add, if you do win, claim the prize quietly and bank the cash; don't buy any big ticket items for awhile afterwards. PA allows for semi-anonymous claims now. PA only publishes first name and first letter of last name along with the county the winner resides in.

                In reply to dr65:

                Yep, $20 instants, available everyday, are a better, overall value than the raffle is. Even if the raffle only sells 400,000, $20 instant tickets still come out ahead. The raffle does offer an interesting variation of winning a $million, so it can be worth playing to mix things up, but wouldn't bet the ranch on it. $20 straight wager on Pick-5, available everyday, is 1 in 100,000 odds with the similar payback percentage as the raffle.

                The long delay in release results makes one wonder whether those 348 tickets were part of the original drawing before PA Lottery realized something was wrong. Though a more likely possibility is lottery officials seeking out any other non-conforming tickets in addition to the 348. All in all, doesn't provide much confidence in the process, which is all computerized and lacks transparency...

                I doubt lottery officials themselves really understand the terminal sales process and the RNG(s) utilized. Have they examined the hardware in depth, including all chips (even CPUs can be remotely updated via software), and every line of code? Probably not, since much of the equipment, software, and much of the security of the tickets / process is contracted out to vendors. PA Lottery officials, in effect, may have little real oversight due to lack of control and understanding of the entire process. To digress, I trust big name casinos, despite the issues they too have, far more than I do lotteries.

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                  I just checked my tickets for the pool I run at work. I bought 9 tickets on December the 6th. 

                  Four of the nine numbers I bought that day were as follows; 075829, 075830, 075832 & 075833.

                  You may have noticed that 075831 is missing from that set.  Well as luck would have it, it appears in the PDF file on The PA Lotteries website in the $100 winner category.  So somebody somewhere won a hundred bucks with it.

                  But here's the even tougher part.  It may have been my brother that won that $100.  He gave me twenty dollars to buy him a ticket, and I might have pulled it out of my set of nine tickets that I bought on December 6th and handed it to him.  It's either that, or somebody someplace else in PA was buying a ticket at the same time I was, and they got ticket number 075831.  I certainly hope that's what happened because with all 16 of the tickets that I bought for the pool I run at work, we didn't win a dime last night!!

                  See, I'm a tad nervous about my brother winning a hundred bucks last night, because for this past Fall's Halloween Millionaire Raffle, my brother gave me twenty bucks, and I bought him a ticket for that raffle. And he won a hundred bucks with the ticket I pulled out of my set of nine tickets that I bought that day.  I, of course, didn't win a dime in The Halloween raffle either.  G5

                  And, Oh yeah! There's absolutely no way that I'm buying that fool another raffle ticket for the rest of either his life or mine. Our older brother told me I was "nuts" for buying him a raffle ticket because as he said; "You better be dam glad it was only a hundred bucks.  How the hell would you feel if he won a MILLION dollars?"  True dat!

                  It turns out that it was not my brother that won $100 with ticket number 075831.

                  But as a result of this, I've learned something besides the fact that I'm never going to buy my brother a ticket again. It's something that I had not given any thought to in the past, and I'm kind of glad this incident with my brother has happened.

                  My congrats to the person who won that $100.  But I cant help but wonder how I would feel if ticket number 075831 had been one of the four million dollars winners.  And while we probably will never know the answer to this question, I cant help but wonder if this very thing has ever happened in past PA millionaire raffles!

                  In all of the millionaire raffles that have been held since 2005, has there ever been a million dollar winner that was sandwiched between two numbers that someone else bought at the same time the million dollar winning ticket was sold?  While I do think the odds on it happening are very slim, it's certainly possible. Did some poor player located in Pittsburgh who bought multiple tickets NOT win a million dollars because somebody else in Scranton bought a single ticket at the exact same time?  I don't want to know what it would feel like to be the player in Pittsburgh. 

                  It's made me re-think how I'll buy tickets in the future.  Remember, I run a pool at work and I buy multiple tickets at a time.  So I've had it happen to me in the past (more than once) where there was a "gap" or a missing ticket number between two of my ticket numbers.  I'm thinking from now on, I wont tell the clerk that I want 4 tickets, instead I'll buy only one ticket at a time.  G5

                  About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                    Something else has occurred to me about these raffles.  In each raffle, there could be a maximum of eight unlucky poor souls that had a "one-off".  Because PA awards 4 top prizes of one million dollars, there are usually two "one-offs" for each winning number drawn. 

                    Somebody had the number immediately before the winning number, and somebody had the number immediately after.  Now, that could be the same guy who also won the million dollars, or it could be either two or three completely different people.  But if tickets do not sell out, there are seven  guaranteed "one-offs", but more than likely, there will be eight.  I'm still going to buy tickets for future raffles, but I sure don't wanna know what it feels like to be holding a one-off in my hand.  G5

                    About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                      Something else has occurred to me about these raffles.  In each raffle, there could be a maximum of eight unlucky poor souls that had a "one-off".  Because PA awards 4 top prizes of one million dollars, there are usually two "one-offs" for each winning number drawn. 

                      Somebody had the number immediately before the winning number, and somebody had the number immediately after.  Now, that could be the same guy who also won the million dollars, or it could be either two or three completely different people.  But if tickets do not sell out, there are seven  guaranteed "one-offs", but more than likely, there will be eight.  I'm still going to buy tickets for future raffles, but I sure don't wanna know what it feels like to be holding a one-off in my hand.  G5

                      Thats NOT right!!! I would FREEK if I looked at my numbers and at first thought "I have the number, I just have to find the ticket' and then figured out I didn't have the ticket. 

                      I also suggest you not buy tickets for your brother, if I remember right isnt this the one who used to 'pound' on you?