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Anonymity for this huge jackpot. Let's settle this right here and now.

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Posted: January 12, 2016, 8:16 pm - IP Logged

When you go in, lie. Until you're in a secure back room, tell everyone that you're there to cash in a $1000 scratcher, and you plan to use the money for a nice vacation.

I realized I had missed something obvious.  No matter if you live in a state that you can claim anonymously or not, any good estate tax attorney will encourage you to claim the jackpot via trust.  Well, unless you live in a state like VA where this is impossible. That way if anything happens to you your heirs can be protected.  So if the ticket is being held in trust there isn't any reason your lawyer cannot go and turn in the ticket on behalf of the trust.  No reason for you to go to the lottery office at all.

Unless you are like me and don't trust anyone.  Then you'll still have to go and watch he doesn't do anything shady.  But he is still driving me. Yes Nod

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    Not sure what the laws are in my state of Indiana, but i just don't understand why a person needs to reveal their identity. As long as a lawyer comes forth and verifies they are representing the current winner that should be enough for public confidence that a winner indeed is a real person. No lawyer is gonna put their career on the line to falsely cover up a fake winner for the lottery...why would the lottery need to do that anyway they are making money either way for their causes. 

    I personally could care less on the identity of who won it, as long as a lawyer represents them and their winning that is enough to verify real people are actually winning. People would have greater respect for the lottery as well for looking out for the winners well being and safety. 

     

    Maybe i am missing something on why a winners identity needs to be made public

    Well I hate to burst your bubble but "POP"

    Let's not forget it was a lawyer who tried to claim the Tipton ticket. He wanted to claim on behalf of his "client", he said, so his "client" could remain anonymous. 

    Anyone will do almost anything for the right amount of money. What's being kicked out of the bar association if you're promised more than you'd make practicing law in a lifetime? Watch a documentary called Unraveled. About a lawyer who impersonated a past client, using the man's name and business information to scam MILLIONS from banks so he could live the lifestyle he felt he was entitled to live. 

    Winners should allowed to claim anonymously. Period. Trusting some face in a suit because he passed a bar exam is meaningless to me.

    I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

    The odds are about the same.

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      That's why you hire a Jehovah Witness attorney. Them dudes live by a set of morals that me and you know nothing about. Talk about honest people. Get one of them elders from one of their kingdom halls to be your attorney and you'll be set.

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        Well I hate to burst your bubble but "POP"

        Let's not forget it was a lawyer who tried to claim the Tipton ticket. He wanted to claim on behalf of his "client", he said, so his "client" could remain anonymous. 

        Anyone will do almost anything for the right amount of money. What's being kicked out of the bar association if you're promised more than you'd make practicing law in a lifetime? Watch a documentary called Unraveled. About a lawyer who impersonated a past client, using the man's name and business information to scam MILLIONS from banks so he could live the lifestyle he felt he was entitled to live. 

        Winners should allowed to claim anonymously. Period. Trusting some face in a suit because he passed a bar exam is meaningless to me.

        I Agree!

        The jackpot will probably be over $1 billion in cash, Tipton was found guilty rigging the Hot Lotto game, was caught because Iowa requires the identity of whomever bought the ticket, yet we still have LP members who apparently can't comprehend why at times the identity of the winner is necessary.

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          I Agree!

          The jackpot will probably be over $1 billion in cash, Tipton was found guilty rigging the Hot Lotto game, was caught because Iowa requires the identity of whomever bought the ticket, yet we still have LP members who apparently can't comprehend why at times the identity of the winner is necessary.

          Iowa law requires the name of the person redeeming the ticket not who purchased it, or if an LLC the name of the LLC and all members.  But membership in an LLC can be hidden so it is still possible to be anonymous in Iowa and Tipton wasn't caught because he turned in a winning ticket, he was caught because it was determined he bought the winning ticket and gave it to someone else to redeem.  He got the scam right for rigging the game but didn't have a credible end game.  They were clumsy in their attempt to redeem the ticket and that raised suspicions.

          Being anonymous simply means the lottery isn't required to make the names public, it doesn't mean you can show up in a mask and have the $700M check made out to Cash.  No difference in the ability of them to investigate suspicious redemption's simply because the identity isn't made public.

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            I Agree!

            The jackpot will probably be over $1 billion in cash, Tipton was found guilty rigging the Hot Lotto game, was caught because Iowa requires the identity of whomever bought the ticket, yet we still have LP members who apparently can't comprehend why at times the identity of the winner is necessary.

            Necessary for the lottery to process your claim...the only reason to release it to the media and public is for publicity and sales....

            "Don't waste time, it's the stuff life's made of..."

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              Iowa law requires the name of the person redeeming the ticket not who purchased it, or if an LLC the name of the LLC and all members.  But membership in an LLC can be hidden so it is still possible to be anonymous in Iowa and Tipton wasn't caught because he turned in a winning ticket, he was caught because it was determined he bought the winning ticket and gave it to someone else to redeem.  He got the scam right for rigging the game but didn't have a credible end game.  They were clumsy in their attempt to redeem the ticket and that raised suspicions.

              Being anonymous simply means the lottery isn't required to make the names public, it doesn't mean you can show up in a mask and have the $700M check made out to Cash.  No difference in the ability of them to investigate suspicious redemption's simply because the identity isn't made public.

              "Iowa law requires the name of the person redeeming the ticket not who purchased it "

              If that were true, Johnson or Shaw could have successfully claimed the winnings. According to this news article the Iowa Lottery wanted to talk to the man wearing the hoody that bought the ticket.

              Somehow, Johnston and company erroneously assumed they could cash in the ticket through a trust to keep the buyer anonymous. But this was another oversight: Iowa is one of several states that mandates winners be identified to the public.

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                Necessary for the lottery to process your claim...the only reason to release it to the media and public is for publicity and sales....

                Because of the Tipton problem and the fact it's going to be a record jackpot, which ever state has a winning ticket will probably do everything they can for transparency. With just one winner, would you be satisfied if you read where an unknown trust claimed over $1 billion in cash or would you wonder if there really was a winner?

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                  You're right, I thought about renting a car to go to the lottery office,

                  just a plain ole 4 door sedan.

                  Or you can do what David Edwards did:

                   Edwards -- who hired an armed guard to protect his

                  winning tickets after Saturday's drawing and traveled to Louisville for Monday's news

                  conference with bodyguards -- conceded his life would change drastically after winning millions.

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                    If you live in a state where you can't remain anonymous, can you wear a disguise at press time?Jester

                    I have seen some of the winner's pictures on Powerball and Megamillions website in the winner's stories section where they are holding the presentation check up in front of their face.Dance

                    This is the first jackpot of its size, but with the new odds I bet it wont be the last. With billion dollar jackpots more commonplace, the idea of someone wining this much will fade like it did after someone won the first 100 mil, 200 mil etc.Banana

                    Who would drive themselves to collect? Most of the time people hire a limo to take them to lottery headquarters. That's what I would do.Party

                    God bless America US Flag and good luck to all players....especially me! Hyper

                    I have heard that not driving to Lottery HQ is a good idea.  I guess it's because your mind is pretty much focused on anything but driving.

                     

                    Just a tip and you can listen or not listen to what I have to say but let me tell you a sad story about someone who won $34.9 M.

                    A <snip>tail waitress from Vegas hit the Megabucks slot machine for $34.9M. After she won she got married because now they could afford to get married. One night around a month afterward she was out with her family doing what they refer to as casino hopping where you go to a casino, gamble then head off to another casino and so on and so forth. Her name is Cynthia Jay-Brennan and she was driving with her sister Lena in the passenger seat waiting at a red light when suddenly they were rear ended by a 58 year old man in an Ford SUV going 50mph because he was drunk. Her sister Lena died and Cynthia suffered serious spinal injuries and to this day she has not control from her chest down. The moral of this story being as soon as you win the big one, buy a large automobile that weighs a lot.  An SUV like a Hummer is the ideal vehicle. If someone hits you and you're in a Hummer they will die not you.  Heck you can easily afford the gas now and granted they don't make Hummers anymore but you can buy them still used.  Either that or another brand of large SUV think large like Ford Expedition. Lexus LX, Cadillac Escalade, Toyota Landcruiser all are good candidates.   

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                      If you're the sole winner of this "over a billion" PB jackpot, they are not going to let you remain anonymous. Your only saving grace is to set up a trust or a company to claim it, if your state allows it, and hope your attorney will keep his mouth shut. I mean, would rather go to jail than violate attorney/client privilege. I'm sure they'd want a huge fee for the trouble. There will be a HUGE public outcry to know who the winner is. So much that politicians will get involved. Don't be fooled! You may end up screwing this up for the rest of winners.(Past and future) Don't play if you don't have the stones for it. Of course, this is just my speculation. However, I think that I'm right on the mark. What say you? Do you think your state will let you remain anonymous if you're the sole winner of this HUGE jackpot?

                      I do hope the winner/winners are given some time, at least, to get things in order before he/they are publicly identify. I hope the winner will be strong enough to handle the pressure.

                      We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                        A couple from Hawick in the Scottish Borders have been unveiled as the winners of half of last Saturday's record £66m National Lottery jackpot. David and Carol Martin, both aged 54, appeared at a news conference at the Dalmahoy Hotel, south of Edinburgh.

                         

                        Congratulations to the winners. However, I am not sure it was wise to be identified publicly. I hope they are strong enough to handle the intense media attention, and all the requests that they will be bombarded with. I suspect they will regret their decision to go public.


                        We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                          A couple from Hawick in the Scottish Borders have been unveiled as the winners of half of last Saturday's record £66m National Lottery jackpot. David and Carol Martin, both aged 54, appeared at a news conference at the Dalmahoy Hotel, south of Edinburgh.

                           

                          Congratulations to the winners. However, I am not sure it was wise to be identified publicly. I hope they are strong enough to handle the intense media attention, and all the requests that they will be bombarded with. I suspect they will regret their decision to go public.


                          UK lottery winnings have the right to remain anonymous. In the excitement of a win,  some winners agree to publicly, not really understanding the implications. For very large prizes, I believe there should be a 'cooling off period', of 100 days.

                          We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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                            Well the obvious claiming it via a Trust is something that has proven effective and in one particular case seemed to have worked.  When Louise White claimed her jackpot she used the The Rainbow Sherbert Trust (note the misspelling was on purpose) and she did her press conference and barely uttered much with her attorneys doing most of the talking. Now nobody talks about her so I'm assuming she is fine now. 

                            Another one that supposedly they got away with not having to reveal the actual winner was the Putnam Ave. Family Trust. So the Trust vehicle seems like the best way to make your claim as anonymous as possible.  Remember the largest PB winner ever? Shenever (Gloria Mackenzie) even did the Press Conference. Seems that they showed up at Lottery HQ and someone let the press know and they showed up and snapped her pictures when she was leaving the HQ.  Otherwise there are an awful lot of people who are more than willing it seems to just claim it under their real name. (just take a look at the winners on the PB Winners webpage.)

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

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                              Trust all the way.  Attorney as trustee goes to claim.  https://www.lotterypost.com/news/296490

                               

                              Afterwards have yourself renamed as the trustee. Wink