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Day and evening draws, combined or separate history?

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do use use separate or combined history files?

Separate day and evening [ 24 ]  [38.10%]
Combine all drawings [ 28 ]  [44.44%]
both [ 11 ]  [17.46%]
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Posted: February 24, 2016, 3:56 pm - IP Logged

In Pennsylvania, We have "virtual" draws for mid-day and ball machines for evening, so I always keep them separate.

I also eliminate "double draws" that PA used to have and in my P3 file, I eliminated the infamous 6-6-6 drawing where they injected paint into the balls.

I don't know that there would be an advantage to mixing them, but when the day and night are drawn by different methods, I can't see where that would do anything other than generate more confusion.

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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    Posted: February 24, 2016, 4:07 pm - IP Logged

    Hyper,

    Where you been since 2009 LOL?

    Welcome back.

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      Posted: February 24, 2016, 5:23 pm - IP Logged

      gave up on the numbers for a few years. Figure I'll start back at the dailies and work my way up rather than just jumping into the jackpot games where I hadn't a clue.

      Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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        Posted: February 24, 2016, 6:42 pm - IP Logged

         All of the ways work. The question is how big is your bank roll?  

         A player could use only midday or just evening or both. They could also include the next State over and their game or their eve and midday combined too. Toss in as many games as you dare. 365 games a yr or 730 or 1460 or even 2,920 .

                                  Actually, you could play every State's daily game and all totally combined.   

                    You could truly run together as many or as few as you want. It would work the same. The math averages would remain. 

                                   The more games you add the FASTER and MORE EXPENSIVE $$ the game becomes.

                                                                           

                                   

                                   Imagine paying out for all 71 games a day waiting for that 23 pair to show.  Coffee

                                   You would still only have to wait around per 100 draws +/-for a TRIP to show! 

                                      With 70 or so games coming in per day those Trips would be Quick like rabbits.

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          Posted: February 27, 2016, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

          I don't get the combined draws thing.  If you're playing combos with mostly even numbers, and evens are hot on midday. Why would you play the same combos on the evening if the odd numbers are hot on the evening?

          I never thought of it that way.  I have however done the past draw backtest thing, and I almost never see a trend where you have odd or eve exclusively to mid

          or eve. 

          What I don't get about filtering by day or eve, is that if say digit one has hit only 1 in the last 200 draws in midday, and only 1 in last 80 combined, that a player

          would seemingly refuse to consider playing that number for eve.  How many times are players going to say.  "Oh man I missed it!!!  I was looking for that

          number in Midday only!!

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            Posted: February 27, 2016, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

            I combine both. here is IL Pick 4 top six boxed with 17 & 16 hits each by GRP (Groups). from 01/01/2011 - present

            You can always separate them if need be by (E or M).

            CNTDATE  #1#2#3#4GRP
            12013-05-21M278963
            22011-05-08E279863
            32014-12-04E287963
            42011-11-07M289763
            52014-10-15M289763
            62011-05-27E297863
            72013-05-20M297863
            82012-02-06E298763
            92013-11-29E782963
            102011-02-06E798263
            112016-01-23E827963
            122014-04-08E829763
            132013-04-28M892763
            142011-10-13E927863
            152012-06-15E927863
            162015-06-22M927863
            172014-07-04M972863
            182013-02-19E046896
            192014-12-17M064896
            202012-01-31M086496
            212012-11-16M086496
            222015-06-06E086496
            232013-10-13M408696
            242015-07-29M408696
            252014-11-03M460896
            262011-02-24E468096
            272015-04-26E480696
            282011-09-08M486096
            292015-11-16M486096
            302015-01-04M604896
            312013-03-23E648096
            322014-06-05M648096
            332015-10-11M840696
            342011-05-08M860496
            352012-12-17E4567183
            362015-07-09M4657183
            372012-06-01M4675183
            382014-10-17M4765183
            392011-05-07M5467183
            402013-08-31M5467183
            412014-04-28E5647183
            422013-08-23E5674183
            432015-07-11M5746183
            442016-01-25E5764183
            452013-09-05M6457183
            462015-11-30M6457183
            472014-11-24E6475183
            482011-05-30E6754183
            492015-12-22M6754183
            502014-07-27E7645183
            512015-08-29E7654183
            522011-06-08M013492
            532012-09-01M013492
            542014-10-13E013492
            552013-09-22M031492
            562012-09-27M034192
            572016-01-25M043192
            582015-09-10E103492
            592013-06-09E130492
            602011-02-22E134092
            612015-02-19E134092
            622015-10-19E314092
            632012-05-07M410392
            642012-05-10M413092
            652013-06-14M413092
            662011-03-16E431092
            672015-12-01M431092
            682011-09-13E1689160
            692012-04-12M1689160
            702015-01-02M1689160
            712011-08-01M1896160
            722015-02-20E6189160
            732015-10-25M6189160
            742014-06-17E6819160
            752012-08-04E6891160
            762012-11-13E6891160
            772014-12-21M6891160
            782012-05-24E6918160
            792011-04-10E6981160
            802013-12-19E6981160
            812013-05-24E8169160
            822014-12-10E9186160
            832012-08-19M9618160
            842012-07-10M1238320
            852014-10-05E1382320
            862013-09-05E1823320
            872015-01-29E1823320
            882015-12-14E1823320
            892011-09-13M2318320
            902016-01-06E2318320
            912014-05-05E2381320
            922016-02-13M2381320
            932012-11-14M3128320
            942013-11-18M3128320
            952013-12-17E3128320
            962015-02-09M3182320
            972014-08-09E3281320
            982012-09-10M3812320
            992012-09-29M8123320
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              Posted: February 27, 2016, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

              I never thought of it that way.  I have however done the past draw backtest thing, and I almost never see a trend where you have odd or eve exclusively to mid

              or eve. 

              What I don't get about filtering by day or eve, is that if say digit one has hit only 1 in the last 200 draws in midday, and only 1 in last 80 combined, that a player

              would seemingly refuse to consider playing that number for eve.  How many times are players going to say.  "Oh man I missed it!!!  I was looking for that

              number in Midday only!!

              You don't have to use just ME or MO. Same thing could apply to mostly low/ high. Odd/ even sums, roots etc. 
              They don't play it simply because it's out longer on mid, and is more due.  But then, they were probably saying the same thing (it's due) as soon as it  missed 15 or 20 draws. Bottom line, just because a number is out for awhile doesn't guarentee it's going to hit the next few days. Eventually it will hit, but it doesn't have to tomorrow.

              "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

              The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

              Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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                Posted: March 27, 2016, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

                Nm numbers follow each other. Mid to eve and visa versa.  The mid now has 48 hot.  The Friday night eve had 666. So using 6401.

                The 40 followed ,048 Saturday morning.

                How about them cowboys!

                 

                 

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                  Posted: March 28, 2016, 3:01 pm - IP Logged

                  For states that have day and evening drawings of P3 or P4, do you look at day and evening history separately or all drawings combined?

                  Depends on state  actually.

                  TN you can combine all draws in  other pick 3 and  pick 4..

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                    Posted: March 28, 2016, 10:43 pm - IP Logged

                    Both for an over all picture, separate to catch an overdue for Midday or Evening.

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                    For a lead role in a cage?

                     

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                      Posted: March 28, 2016, 11:09 pm - IP Logged

                      For states that have day and evening drawings of P3 or P4, do you look at day and evening history separately or all drawings combined?

                      In my humble opinion, using game history to predict future events demands that all available data, except pretests, be considered when deciding which integers have best chance of being in the next winning combination.