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• hypersoniq

  

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  In Pennsylvania, We have "virtual" draws for mid-day and ball machines for evening, so I always keep them separate.

  I also eliminate "double draws" that PA used to have and in my P3 file, I eliminated the infamous 6-6-6 drawing where they injected paint into the balls.

  I don't know that there would be an advantage to mixing them, but when the day and night are drawn by different methods, I can't see where that would do anything other than generate more confusion.

  Have an EXCELlent day!
• winsumloosesum

  

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  Hyper,

  Where you been since 2009 LOL?

  Welcome back.
• hypersoniq

  

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  gave up on the numbers for a few years. Figure I'll start back at the dailies and work my way up rather than just jumping into the jackpot games where I hadn't a clue.

  Have an EXCELlent day!
• Edibs3

  

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   All of the ways work. The question is how big is your bank roll?  

   A player could use only midday or just evening or both. They could also include the next State over and their game or their eve and midday combined too. Toss in as many games as you dare. 365 games a yr or 730 or 1460 or even 2,920 .

                            Actually, you could play every State's daily game and all totally combined.   

              You could truly run together as many or as few as you want. It would work the same. The math averages would remain. 

                             The more games you add the FASTER and MORE EXPENSIVE $$ the game becomes.

                                                                     

                             

                             Imagine paying out for all 71 games a day waiting for that 23 pair to show. 

                             You would still only have to wait around per 100 draws +/-for a TRIP to show! 

                                With 70 or so games coming in per day those Trips would be Quick like rabbits.
• SilverLion

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Feb 22, 2016

  I don't get the combined draws thing.  If you're playing combos with mostly even numbers, and evens are hot on midday. Why would you play the same combos on the evening if the odd numbers are hot on the evening?

  I never thought of it that way.  I have however done the past draw backtest thing, and I almost never see a trend where you have odd or eve exclusively to mid

  or eve. 

  What I don't get about filtering by day or eve, is that if say digit one has hit only 1 in the last 200 draws in midday, and only 1 in last 80 combined, that a player

  would seemingly refuse to consider playing that number for eve.  How many times are players going to say.  "Oh man I missed it!!!  I was looking for that

  number in Midday only!!
• butch2030

  

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  I combine both. here is IL Pick 4 top six boxed with 17 & 16 hits each by GRP (Groups). from 01/01/2011 - present

  You can always separate them if need be by (E or M).

  CNT	DATE		#1	#2	#3	#4	GRP
  1	2013-05-21	M	2	7	8	9	63
  2	2011-05-08	E	2	7	9	8	63
  3	2014-12-04	E	2	8	7	9	63
  4	2011-11-07	M	2	8	9	7	63
  5	2014-10-15	M	2	8	9	7	63
  6	2011-05-27	E	2	9	7	8	63
  7	2013-05-20	M	2	9	7	8	63
  8	2012-02-06	E	2	9	8	7	63
  9	2013-11-29	E	7	8	2	9	63
  10	2011-02-06	E	7	9	8	2	63
  11	2016-01-23	E	8	2	7	9	63
  12	2014-04-08	E	8	2	9	7	63
  13	2013-04-28	M	8	9	2	7	63
  14	2011-10-13	E	9	2	7	8	63
  15	2012-06-15	E	9	2	7	8	63
  16	2015-06-22	M	9	2	7	8	63
  17	2014-07-04	M	9	7	2	8	63
  18	2013-02-19	E	0	4	6	8	96
  19	2014-12-17	M	0	6	4	8	96
  20	2012-01-31	M	0	8	6	4	96
  21	2012-11-16	M	0	8	6	4	96
  22	2015-06-06	E	0	8	6	4	96
  23	2013-10-13	M	4	0	8	6	96
  24	2015-07-29	M	4	0	8	6	96
  25	2014-11-03	M	4	6	0	8	96
  26	2011-02-24	E	4	6	8	0	96
  27	2015-04-26	E	4	8	0	6	96
  28	2011-09-08	M	4	8	6	0	96
  29	2015-11-16	M	4	8	6	0	96
  30	2015-01-04	M	6	0	4	8	96
  31	2013-03-23	E	6	4	8	0	96
  32	2014-06-05	M	6	4	8	0	96
  33	2015-10-11	M	8	4	0	6	96
  34	2011-05-08	M	8	6	0	4	96
  35	2012-12-17	E	4	5	6	7	183
  36	2015-07-09	M	4	6	5	7	183
  37	2012-06-01	M	4	6	7	5	183
  38	2014-10-17	M	4	7	6	5	183
  39	2011-05-07	M	5	4	6	7	183
  40	2013-08-31	M	5	4	6	7	183
  41	2014-04-28	E	5	6	4	7	183
  42	2013-08-23	E	5	6	7	4	183
  43	2015-07-11	M	5	7	4	6	183
  44	2016-01-25	E	5	7	6	4	183
  45	2013-09-05	M	6	4	5	7	183
  46	2015-11-30	M	6	4	5	7	183
  47	2014-11-24	E	6	4	7	5	183
  48	2011-05-30	E	6	7	5	4	183
  49	2015-12-22	M	6	7	5	4	183
  50	2014-07-27	E	7	6	4	5	183
  51	2015-08-29	E	7	6	5	4	183
  52	2011-06-08	M	0	1	3	4	92
  53	2012-09-01	M	0	1	3	4	92
  54	2014-10-13	E	0	1	3	4	92
  55	2013-09-22	M	0	3	1	4	92
  56	2012-09-27	M	0	3	4	1	92
  57	2016-01-25	M	0	4	3	1	92
  58	2015-09-10	E	1	0	3	4	92
  59	2013-06-09	E	1	3	0	4	92
  60	2011-02-22	E	1	3	4	0	92
  61	2015-02-19	E	1	3	4	0	92
  62	2015-10-19	E	3	1	4	0	92
  63	2012-05-07	M	4	1	0	3	92
  64	2012-05-10	M	4	1	3	0	92
  65	2013-06-14	M	4	1	3	0	92
  66	2011-03-16	E	4	3	1	0	92
  67	2015-12-01	M	4	3	1	0	92
  68	2011-09-13	E	1	6	8	9	160
  69	2012-04-12	M	1	6	8	9	160
  70	2015-01-02	M	1	6	8	9	160
  71	2011-08-01	M	1	8	9	6	160
  72	2015-02-20	E	6	1	8	9	160
  73	2015-10-25	M	6	1	8	9	160
  74	2014-06-17	E	6	8	1	9	160
  75	2012-08-04	E	6	8	9	1	160
  76	2012-11-13	E	6	8	9	1	160
  77	2014-12-21	M	6	8	9	1	160
  78	2012-05-24	E	6	9	1	8	160
  79	2011-04-10	E	6	9	8	1	160
  80	2013-12-19	E	6	9	8	1	160
  81	2013-05-24	E	8	1	6	9	160
  82	2014-12-10	E	9	1	8	6	160
  83	2012-08-19	M	9	6	1	8	160
  84	2012-07-10	M	1	2	3	8	320
  85	2014-10-05	E	1	3	8	2	320
  86	2013-09-05	E	1	8	2	3	320
  87	2015-01-29	E	1	8	2	3	320
  88	2015-12-14	E	1	8	2	3	320
  89	2011-09-13	M	2	3	1	8	320
  90	2016-01-06	E	2	3	1	8	320
  91	2014-05-05	E	2	3	8	1	320
  92	2016-02-13	M	2	3	8	1	320
  93	2012-11-14	M	3	1	2	8	320
  94	2013-11-18	M	3	1	2	8	320
  95	2013-12-17	E	3	1	2	8	320
  96	2015-02-09	M	3	1	8	2	320
  97	2014-08-09	E	3	2	8	1	320
  98	2012-09-10	M	3	8	1	2	320
  99	2012-09-29	M	8	1	2	3	320
• grwurston

  

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  In response to SilverLion

  Quote: Originally posted by SilverLion on Feb 27, 2016

  I never thought of it that way.  I have however done the past draw backtest thing, and I almost never see a trend where you have odd or eve exclusively to mid

  or eve. 

  What I don't get about filtering by day or eve, is that if say digit one has hit only 1 in the last 200 draws in midday, and only 1 in last 80 combined, that a player

  would seemingly refuse to consider playing that number for eve.  How many times are players going to say.  "Oh man I missed it!!!  I was looking for that

  number in Midday only!!

  You don't have to use just ME or MO. Same thing could apply to mostly low/ high. Odd/ even sums, roots etc. 
  They don't play it simply because it's out longer on mid, and is more due.  But then, they were probably saying the same thing (it's due) as soon as it  missed 15 or 20 draws. Bottom line, just because a number is out for awhile doesn't guarentee it's going to hit the next few days. Eventually it will hit, but it doesn't have to tomorrow.

  

  Before you play there are 2 choices to make. Low sum or high sum and consecutive pair or no consecutive pair. Choose correctly and you go from 120 combos down to 30. Not a bad starting point.
• lakerben

  

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  Nm numbers follow each other. Mid to eve and visa versa.  The mid now has 48 hot.  The Friday night eve had 666. So using 6401.

  The 40 followed ,048 Saturday morning.

  Win!

   

  
• bigdaddy

  

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  In response to ArizonaDream

  Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Feb 7, 2016

  For states that have day and evening drawings of P3 or P4, do you look at day and evening history separately or all drawings combined?

  Depends on state  actually.

  TN you can combine all draws in  other pick 3 and  pick 4..

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• sully16

  

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  Both for an over all picture, separate to catch an overdue for Midday or Evening.

  
• bobby623

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Feb 7, 2016

  For states that have day and evening drawings of P3 or P4, do you look at day and evening history separately or all drawings combined?

  In my humble opinion, using game history to predict future events demands that all available data, except pretests, be considered when deciding which integers have best chance of being in the next winning combination.