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Posted: March 23, 2016, 11:33 pm - IP Logged

I don't need to go back that far. Recent is what decides what will happen next.

Recent history showed it by comparing. No, that doesn't happen often. Doesn't happen in other states. I didn't base it on odds.

I based it on the probability of what I was seeing. I was right. Would I be right next time? Only time would tell.

That's why I think probability and odds as you see it is not exactly as I see it.

 

And FL pick 3 goes back to 1988. Far enough? I think that's fairly close to 10,000 draws.

yeah that's probably a little more than 10,000 draws. Probably not enough time to really show much. And definitely not very useful for anything we are doing here.

I don't think we are thinking about probability and odds much differently, but you are using probability of events that happen much more often, so they become more useful on the smaller scales you are talking about.

BA asked how often we would see a repeat like that, that's why I was coming up with it. Maybe not very useful, but what happened won't be seen very often.

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    Not true.  Odds are FACTS, such as Templates, they don't change for long periods of times. Probabilities on the other hand can change depending on the situation at the time of the event. The outcome can be influenced a BILLION different ways. Altering outcomes is an art.

    Ok Amber, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this. Call them what you will but they each have a dictionary definition that explains what they mean. By definition, they are different ways of explaining the chances that a certain thing happens versus the chances that it doesn't.

    Odds usually look something like this: 1:99 or 1 to 99 or 1 against 99. meaning the first thing has a 1 chance of happening versus 99 chances of something else happening (usually that something else is the first thing not happening).

    Probability of the same event if the 99 represents the first thing not happening would look like: 1 in 100, or 1%.

    Same facts, different way to explain it.

    Those are just the dictionary ways to define them, you are free to do it however you want but that's what I mean when I am using the terms.

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      Ok Amber, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this. Call them what you will but they each have a dictionary definition that explains what they mean. By definition, they are different ways of explaining the chances that a certain thing happens versus the chances that it doesn't.

      Odds usually look something like this: 1:99 or 1 to 99 or 1 against 99. meaning the first thing has a 1 chance of happening versus 99 chances of something else happening (usually that something else is the first thing not happening).

      Probability of the same event if the 99 represents the first thing not happening would look like: 1 in 100, or 1%.

      Same facts, different way to explain it.

      Those are just the dictionary ways to define them, you are free to do it however you want but that's what I mean when I am using the terms.

      What?

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        What?

        I'm starting to be as clear as BA!! oh noooo :)

         

        I can dumb it down since each of us seems to need to do that for the other to make any sense of things.

        Odds are talking about the chances of 1 occurrence of an event happening versus the chances of some other, mutually exclusive event, happening. Mutually exclusive means there is 0 chance that both of the events happen at the same time.

        Probability is talking about the chances of a positive result happening out of all of the possible results.

        Examples:

        Odds of hitting a pick 3 straight with one pick is 1:999. there is 1 chance of hitting versus 999 chances of not hitting. You could also use odds to compare the chances of different types of picks. So odds of hitting a pick 3 straight versus hitting a pick 3 box are 1:6. Might be useful in some kind of circumstance idk.

        Probability of hitting a pick 3 straight is 1 in 1000, or 0.1%. Probability of hitting a pick 3 box is 6 in 1000, broken down to about 1 in 167, or 0.6%.

         

        Funny thing is, even the Wisconsin lottery website and published odds gets this wrong. It lists the "odds" of hitting a straight pick 3 as "1:1000" when it is really either "1 in 1000" or "1:999". Unless there's one more possible pick 3 combination that I'm missing?

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          I'm starting to be as clear as BA!! oh noooo :)

           

          I can dumb it down since each of us seems to need to do that for the other to make any sense of things.

          Odds are talking about the chances of 1 occurrence of an event happening versus the chances of some other, mutually exclusive event, happening. Mutually exclusive means there is 0 chance that both of the events happen at the same time.

          Probability is talking about the chances of a positive result happening out of all of the possible results.

          Examples:

          Odds of hitting a pick 3 straight with one pick is 1:999. there is 1 chance of hitting versus 999 chances of not hitting. You could also use odds to compare the chances of different types of picks. So odds of hitting a pick 3 straight versus hitting a pick 3 box are 1:6. Might be useful in some kind of circumstance idk.

          Probability of hitting a pick 3 straight is 1 in 1000, or 0.1%. Probability of hitting a pick 3 box is 6 in 1000, broken down to about 1 in 167, or 0.6%.

           

          Funny thing is, even the Wisconsin lottery website and published odds gets this wrong. It lists the "odds" of hitting a straight pick 3 as "1:1000" when it is really either "1 in 1000" or "1:999". Unless there's one more possible pick 3 combination that I'm missing?

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            SUMS OUT? ... CA USA

            Not a mystery; but a bad reasoning!

            SUMFOUT
            017277
            145334
            29230
            3157217
            419748
            529445
            640236
            74720
            86379
            977519
            1085914
            119306
            129797
            1310325
            1410183
            1595720
            1694718
            1786615
            187741
            196084
            2047168
            2137497
            22283166
            231822
            24144233
            2574240
            2636149
            27111072
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              The best part is the review after today

              No brainer
               Digit 3,6 or 5 falls today in Florida
               Digit 3,6 or 5 falls today in Florida
               Digit 3,6 or 5 falls today in Florida
              Midday or Evening draw........Fact
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              Some will attribute to
              The Old Man's Zeros Trick"

               The old man's zero trick is a great way to learn about Pick-3 patterns and digit frequency. It's also a very good thing to help you remember each time you see a ZERO. This trick works in about 90% of the cases and good in all states.

                O.K. this trick you really will have to play at Home in your on state on your own State's P-3 data base.

                1. Run your finger down the hits on your data base and each time you see a Zero ......stop.

                2. Now, look around that Zero for either a digit # 3 ...or...digit #6.

              *They are always there about 90 % of the time ...one or the other

                2. Now, look around that Zero for either a digit # 3 ...or...digit #6.

              *They are always there about 90 % of the time ...one or the otherPukeNo No

              Dupe Alert

              0?? ...

              1:000 2:001 3:002 4:003 5:004 6:005 7:006 8:007 9:008 10:009 11:010 12:011 13:012 14:013 15:014 16:015 17:016 18:017 19:018 20:019 21:020 22:021 23:022 24:023 25:024 26:025 27:026 28:027 29:028 30:029 31:030 32:031 33:032 34:033 35:034 36:035 37:036 38:037 39:038 40:039 41:040 42:041 43:042 44:043 45:044 46:045 47:046 48:047 49:048 50:049 51:050 52:051 53:052 54:053 55:054 56:055 57:056 58:057 59:058 60:059 61:060 62:061 63:062 64:063 65:064 66:065 67:066 68:067 69:068 70:069 71:070 72:071 73:072 74:073 75:074 76:075 77:076 78:077 79:078 80:079 81:080 82:081 83:082 84:083 85:084 86:085 87:086 88:087 89:088 90:089 91:090 92:091 93:092 94:093 95:094 96:095 97:096 98:097 99:098 100:099 101:100 102:101 103:102 104:103 105:104 106:105 107:106 108:107 109:108 110:109 111:110 112:120 113:130 114:140 115:150 116:160 117:170 118:180 119:190 120:200 121:201 122:202 123:203 124:204 125:205 126:206 127:207 128:208 129:209 130:210 131:220 132:230 133:240 134:250 135:260 136:270 137:280 138:290 139:300 140:301 141:302 142:303 143:304 144:305 145:306 146:307 147:308 148:309 149:310 150:320 151:330 152:340 153:350 154:360 155:370 156:380 157:390 158:400 159:401 160:402 161:403 162:404 163:405 164:406 165:407 166:408 167:409 168:410 169:420 170:430 171:440 172:450 173:460 174:470 175:480 176:490 177:500 178:501 179:502 180:503 181:504 182:505 183:506 184:507 185:508 186:509 187:510 188:520 189:530 190:540 191:550 192:560 193:570 194:580 195:590 196:600 197:601 198:602 199:603 200:604 201:605 202:606 203:607 204:608 205:609 206:610 207:620 208:630 209:640 210:650 211:660 212:670 213:680 214:690 215:700 216:701 217:702 218:703 219:704 220:705 221:706 222:707 223:708 224:709 225:710 226:720 227:730 228:740 229:750 230:760 231:770 232:780 233:790 234:800 235:801 236:802 237:803 238:804 239:805 240:806 241:807 242:808 243:809 244:810 245:820 246:830 247:840 248:850 249:860 250:870 251:880 252:890 253:900 254:901 255:902 256:903 257:904 258:905 259:906 260:907 261:908 262:909 263:910 264:920 265:930 266:940 267:950 268:960 269:970 270:980 271:990

              0 with 3 or 6

              1:003 2:006 3:013 4:016 5:023 6:026 7:030 8:031 9:032 10:033 11:034 12:035 13:036 14:037 15:038 16:039 17:043 18:046 19:053 20:056 21:060 22:061 23:062 24:063 25:064 26:065 27:066 28:067 29:068 30:069 31:073 32:076 33:083 34:086 35:093 36:096 37:103 38:106 39:130 40:160 41:203 42:206 43:230 44:260 45:300 46:301 47:302 48:303 49:304 50:305 51:306 52:307 53:308 54:309 55:310 56:320 57:330 58:340 59:350 60:360 61:370 62:380 63:390 64:403 65:406 66:430 67:460 68:503 69:506 70:530 71:560 72:600 73:601 74:602 75:603 76:604 77:605 78:606 79:607 80:608 81:609 82:610 83:620 84:630 85:640 86:650 87:660 88:670 89:680 90:690 91:703 92:706 93:730 94:760 95:803 96:806 97:830 98:860 99:903 100:906 101:930 102:960

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                SUMS OUT? ... CA USA

                Not a mystery; but a bad reasoning!

                SUMFOUT
                  17277
                  45334
                  9230
                  157217
                419748
                  29445
                  40236
                  4720
                86379
                  77519
                  85914
                  9306
                  9797
                  10325
                1410183
                  95720
                  94718
                  86615
                187741
                  6084
                  47168
                  37497
                  283166
                  1822
                24144233
                  74240
                  36149
                  111072

                Three days...What sum? 3/24-3/27

                Sum 14 looks good

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                  Posted: March 24, 2016, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

                  SUMS OUT? ... CA USA

                  Not a mystery; but a bad reasoning!

                  SUMFOUT
                    17277
                    45334
                    9230
                    157217
                  419748
                    29445
                    40236
                    4720
                  86379
                    77519
                    85914
                    9306
                    9797
                    10325
                  1410183
                    95720
                    94718
                    86615
                  187741
                    6084
                    47168
                    37497
                    283166
                    1822
                  24144233
                    74240
                    36149
                    111072

                  Three days...What sum? 3/24-3/27

                  Sum 14 looks good

                  75 dollar bet!

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                       Digit 3,6 or 5 falls today in Florida 
                       Evening draw........Fact
                      ________________________________
                      Wed, Mar 23, 20167-2-0
                      Tue, Mar 22, 20162-2-02-0-9
                      Mon, Mar 21, 20169-5-48-4-7
                      Digits out 1-3-6
                       
                      Thu, Mar 24, 20166-1-3
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                         Digit 3,6 or 5 falls today in Florida 
                         Evening draw........Fact
                        ________________________________
                        Wed, Mar 23, 20167-2-0
                        Tue, Mar 22, 20162-2-02-0-9
                        Mon, Mar 21, 20169-5-48-4-7
                        Digits out 1-3-6
                         
                        Thu, Mar 24, 20166-1-3

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                          BA.

                          How do i find the combos that haven't hit I'm reading the tread but not sure how to figure out the combos

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                            I think I got it every time  all even and all odd combos  are missing in five draw we should used the missing combos and extract 0 5 2 or 7 short sum

                            should I use Vtrac on the 5 draw not sure what to do with vtrac

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                              BA when you have time can you please explain with the following five draw 

                               

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