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Great Pick-3 Straight system, but needs help with reduction

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amber123's avatar - OpIFNim

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I noticed that almost every day in Florida, every pair needed to make a winning straight combination becomes a winner because of the pair match-ups which shows up within the previous 10 days. So S0 I decided to pair up those pairs and see how many combos it would generate. Yup, you guessed it.

And now I've been forced to apply all my usual filters like no ALL odds/ALL evens/Doubles, trips, all low, all high, and consecutives. This still leaves me about 200 combinations. This is where I hit a wall.

The win can come in mid or eve, so my other filter was to wait until the mid draw, and if it wins, don't play eve. If it doesn't hit mid, play eve. 

Maybe someone smarter than I can help me reduce the amount of combos without eliminating the wining straight combo.

Thanks.

 

Below is the workout for tomorrow. I've taken the time to list all the possible pairs from the past 10 days, then prioritize them by a "first digit" category, making it easier to do the workout.

 

Basically I turned this,

06 60 03 30 63 36 73 37 71 17 31 13 08 80 04 40 84 48 95 59 91 19 99 92 29 76 67 78 87 68 89 61 16 34 43 44 05 00 50 64 46 14 41 21 12 22 94 49 54 45 47 74 20 02 72 27 70 07 08 80 28 82 10 01 24 42 93 39

Into this, (eliminated double pairs).

01          10          20          30          40          50          60          70          80          91

02          12          21          31          41          54          63          71          81          92

03          13          24          34          42          59          64          74          82          93

04          14          27          39          43                        67          76          84          94

05          16          29                        45                        68          78          86          95 

06          17                                      47                                                   87

07          18                                      48

08          19 

 

 

Now I make combos with the filters I mentioned earlier in mind.

I match the last number of a pair with the first number of another pair.

For example: The first number is 01. 1 is the last number. Now I look for every pair in the group of 1-(10-12-13-14-16-17-18-19), and make combos.

Example:01 and 10 would be 010. 01 and 12 would be 012, and so on. But of course I'd eliminate it for being a double, and also being all low.

 

The Combinations below, after the filters aforementioned. To make it easier to see, I will cross out the combos from the filters so you can get a visual. What isn't crossed out is used to bet on. I'm doing this one ONLY as an example, the other combos will be shown already filtered.

 

010 012 013 014 016 017 018 019

020 021 022 024 027 029

030 031 034 037 039

040 041 042 043 044 045 047 048

050 054 059

060 063 064 067 068

070 071 074 076 078

080 081 082 084 086 087

 

105 106 107 108

127 128 129

145 147 148

160 163 164 167 168

170 174 176 178

192 193 194 195

 

025 207 

216 217 218 219

245 247 

270 271 274 276 278 

291 292 293 294 295

 

305 306 307 308

316 

347 348

370 374 376 378

392 394 

 

405 407 

416 417 418 419

421 427 429

437 439

450 459

470 471 

481 487

 

501 502 503 504 506 507

540 541 542 543 547 548 

592 593 594 

 

601 603 605 607 

630 631 634 637 639

641 643 

670 671 674 678

681 687

 

701 702 703 704 705 706 708

710 712 714 716 718 

740 741 742 743 745 748

760 764 768

780 781 782 784 

 

801 803 805 807 

810 812 813 814 816 817 819

821 827 829

841 843 845 847 

863 867 

870 871 874 876 

 

910 912 914 916 918

920 921 924 927 928 

930 934 

940 941 942 943 945 947 948

950 954 

 

One of these combos has a good chance of winning tomorrow in Florida mid, eve, or both.

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    I forgot the filter ...NO combo with the same sum as last mid and eve draws.

    Below are the combos after this filter was applied.

    Mid sum=14

    Eve sum=16

     

     

    016 017 018 019

    027 029

    037 039

    045 047 

    054 

    063 067 

    071 074 

    081 087

     

    105 106 107 108

    127 128 129

    145 147 148

    160 163 164 168

    170 174 176 178

    192 193 195

     

    205 207 

    216 217 218 219

    245 247 

    270 271 274 276 278 

    291 292 294 

     

    305 306 307 308

    316 

    347 348

    370 378

    392 394 

     

    405 407 

    416 417 418 419

    421 427 429

    450 459

    470 471 

    481 487

     

    501 502 503 504 506 507

    540 541 542 543 547 548 

    592 593 594 

     

    601 603 605 607 

    630 631 634 637 639

    641 643 

    670 674 

    681 

     

    701 702 703 704 705 706 708

    710 712 714 716 718 

    740 741 742 743 745 748

    760 764 768

    780 781 782 784 

     

    801 803 805 807 

    810 812 813 814 816 817 819

    821 827 829

    841 843 845 847 

    863 867 

    870 871 874 876 

     

    910 912 914 916 918

    920 921 924 927 928 

    930 934 

    940 941 942 943 945 947 948

    950 954 

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      I noticed that almost every day in Florida, every pair needed to make a winning straight combination becomes a winner because of the pair match-ups which shows up within the previous 10 days. So S0 I decided to pair up those pairs and see how many combos it would generate. Yup, you guessed it.

      And now I've been forced to apply all my usual filters like no ALL odds/ALL evens/Doubles, trips, all low, all high, and consecutives. This still leaves me about 200 combinations. This is where I hit a wall.

      The win can come in mid or eve, so my other filter was to wait until the mid draw, and if it wins, don't play eve. If it doesn't hit mid, play eve. 

      Maybe someone smarter than I can help me reduce the amount of combos without eliminating the wining straight combo.

      Thanks.

       

      Below is the workout for tomorrow. I've taken the time to list all the possible pairs from the past 10 days, then prioritize them by a "first digit" category, making it easier to do the workout.

       

      Basically I turned this,

      06 60 03 30 63 36 73 37 71 17 31 13 08 80 04 40 84 48 95 59 91 19 99 92 29 76 67 78 87 68 89 61 16 34 43 44 05 00 50 64 46 14 41 21 12 22 94 49 54 45 47 74 20 02 72 27 70 07 08 80 28 82 10 01 24 42 93 39

      Into this, (eliminated double pairs).

      01          10          20          30          40          50          60          70          80          91

      02          12          21          31          41          54          63          71          81          92

      03          13          24          34          42          59          64          74          82          93

      04          14          27          39          43                        67          76          84          94

      05          16          29                        45                        68          78          86          95 

      06          17                                      47                                                   87

      07          18                                      48

      08          19 

       

       

      Now I make combos with the filters I mentioned earlier in mind.

      I match the last number of a pair with the first number of another pair.

      For example: The first number is 01. 1 is the last number. Now I look for every pair in the group of 1-(10-12-13-14-16-17-18-19), and make combos.

      Example:01 and 10 would be 010. 01 and 12 would be 012, and so on. But of course I'd eliminate it for being a double, and also being all low.

       

      The Combinations below, after the filters aforementioned. To make it easier to see, I will cross out the combos from the filters so you can get a visual. What isn't crossed out is used to bet on. I'm doing this one ONLY as an example, the other combos will be shown already filtered.

       

      010 012 013 014 016 017 018 019

      020 021 022 024 027 029

      030 031 034 037 039

      040 041 042 043 044 045 047 048

      050 054 059

      060 063 064 067 068

      070 071 074 076 078

      080 081 082 084 086 087

       

      105 106 107 108

      127 128 129

      145 147 148

      160 163 164 167 168

      170 174 176 178

      192 193 194 195

       

      025 207 

      216 217 218 219

      245 247 

      270 271 274 276 278 

      291 292 293 294 295

       

      305 306 307 308

      316 

      347 348

      370 374 376 378

      392 394 

       

      405 407 

      416 417 418 419

      421 427 429

      437 439

      450 459

      470 471 

      481 487

       

      501 502 503 504 506 507

      540 541 542 543 547 548 

      592 593 594 

       

      601 603 605 607 

      630 631 634 637 639

      641 643 

      670 671 674 678

      681 687

       

      701 702 703 704 705 706 708

      710 712 714 716 718 

      740 741 742 743 745 748

      760 764 768

      780 781 782 784 

       

      801 803 805 807 

      810 812 813 814 816 817 819

      821 827 829

      841 843 845 847 

      863 867 

      870 871 874 876 

       

      910 912 914 916 918

      920 921 924 927 928 

      930 934 

      940 941 942 943 945 947 948

      950 954 

       

      One of these combos has a good chance of winning tomorrow in Florida mid, eve, or both.

      You did read my posts!!!

      Same thing I've posted several times and how I track them and use them.

      Hints for reduction.....

      I've used Blackapple's 434 workout and played only the roots indicated.

      I've used 30 day draw to eliminate combos already drawn. Mostly works.

      I've used sum reduction.....remove combos of sum in prev. draw and most times the one before it.

      I've used vsum reduction. And used mirror states draw vtracs as a guide.

      I've removed all nonclean numbers unless the mirror state I use for a guide brings one in it's draw. Then I leave in till

      one hits. Then back out until scenario repeats itself.

      Used repeating digits only.

      I've even used your pyramid as a pairs reducer. It works!!

      Still leaves more combo's than most use, down to about 40 or less. But consistency makes up the difference. Backtest extensively to see what works in your state.

      You will have more success than you think.

      I DO!!

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        My goal was to develop a method that I would be able to work and leave all "intuition" or "numbers eye" out of it. This is close but still not it. I've decided it's impossible to have such a method. Learn to develop your "eye for the numbers". It will pay off as much as the method.........

         Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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          My goal was to develop a method that I would be able to work and leave all "intuition" or "numbers eye" out of it. This is close but still not it. I've decided it's impossible to have such a method. Learn to develop your "eye for the numbers". It will pay off as much as the method.........

          I Agree!

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            JayHawk is carrying the baton

            He is cleaning up and clarifying the work done

             
            check longest out Front pair sums

            Get the head and the tail will follow.

            Sound tips from CASH34OLOGIST

            in this area taken further with experimentation works.

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              Something for the next time you are tryng to find just ONE MORE filter for Straights. 

               

                                                                              Straight Numbers Reduction Filter 

               For example:

               If the last draw was 405 straight. Subtract each previous digit by filtering them out by position for next draw. 

               Filter all position 1 digits of digit4 .  Filter all digits of digit 0 from position 2Filter all digit 5's from position 3.

               

                                   NOTE** It is fairly rare for a 6 way number digit to repeat ON TOP of each other on the next draw.

               This filter will reduce the 1000 chart of straight options by 271 numbers!

               Leaves only 729 straights to begin our other normal filters.

               This could be an AUTOMATIC straights filter. Most players are Box players most of the time. This is a straights filter only.

                                                         It could be automatic and without that emotional aspect you mentioned.   

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                You did read my posts!!!

                Same thing I've posted several times and how I track them and use them.

                Hints for reduction.....

                I've used Blackapple's 434 workout and played only the roots indicated.

                I've used 30 day draw to eliminate combos already drawn. Mostly works.

                I've used sum reduction.....remove combos of sum in prev. draw and most times the one before it.

                I've used vsum reduction. And used mirror states draw vtracs as a guide.

                I've removed all nonclean numbers unless the mirror state I use for a guide brings one in it's draw. Then I leave in till

                one hits. Then back out until scenario repeats itself.

                Used repeating digits only.

                I've even used your pyramid as a pairs reducer. It works!!

                Still leaves more combo's than most use, down to about 40 or less. But consistency makes up the difference. Backtest extensively to see what works in your state.

                You will have more success than you think.

                I DO!!

                Mid winner was 290, so it's a miss, hopefully the eve will bring a hit.

                 

                Great ideas for more filtering, thanks.

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                  Something for the next time you are tryng to find just ONE MORE filter for Straights. 

                   

                                                                                  Straight Numbers Reduction Filter 

                   For example:

                   If the last draw was 405 straight. Subtract each previous digit by filtering them out by position for next draw. 

                   Filter all position 1 digits of digit4 .  Filter all digits of digit 0 from position 2Filter all digit 5's from position 3.

                   

                                       NOTE** It is fairly rare for a 6 way number digit to repeat ON TOP of each other on the next draw.

                   This filter will reduce the 1000 chart of straight options by 271 numbers!

                   Leaves only 729 straights to begin our other normal filters.

                   This could be an AUTOMATIC straights filter. Most players are Box players most of the time. This is a straights filter only.

                                                             It could be automatic and without that emotional aspect you mentioned.   

                  Yeah, I forgot about this one. Will apply it for eve tonight.

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                    Last night's winning number in Florida was 934, so NO 9,3, or 4 in their respective positions. Also, no combos from previous wins straight or boxed. No sum 16 combos.

                    Also, only numbers that have a 9,3, and 4 in them.

                     

                    019

                    029

                    045 047 

                    063   

                     

                     

                     

                    129

                    145 147 148

                    192 193 195

                     

                     

                    219

                    291 

                     

                    305 306 307 308

                    347 348

                    370 378

                    392 

                     

                    405 407 

                    416 417 418 419

                    421 427 429

                    450 459

                    470 471 

                    481 487

                     

                    503 

                    540 541 542 543 548 

                    593 

                     

                    603

                    641 643 

                     

                     

                    703 

                    740 741 743 748

                     

                     

                    803

                    813 819

                    829

                    841 843 845 847 

                    863 

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                      Another advantage of the Straight Filter is this. 

                       Since we are dealing with 6 way number Straights we actually are reducing the 6 way Straights and NO DOUBLES. 

                       

                       The actual reduction is almost a 50% reduction in the 6 way numbers.

                       From 720 all the way down to 527 standing straights. An automatic reduction of 47.3% of the straights chart to start! 

                       

                       No positional digits from last draw of 4,0, or 5 RESULTS and with no doubles.

                       012, 013, 014, 016, 017, 018, 019, 021, 023, 024, 026, 027, 028, 029, 031, 032, 034, 036, 037, 038, 039, 041, 042, 043, 046, 047, 048, 049, 051, 052, 053, 054, 056, 057, 058, 059, 061, 062, 063, 064, 067, 068, 069, 071, 072, 073, 074, 076, 078, 079, 081, 082, 083, 084, 086, 087, 089, 091, 092, 093, 094, 096, 097, 098, 120, 123, 124, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 132, 134, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 142, 143, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 152, 153, 154, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 162, 163, 164, 167, 168, 169, 170, 172, 173, 174, 176, 178, 179, 180, 182, 183, 184, 186, 187, 189, 190, 192, 193, 194, 196, 197, 198, 210, 213, 214, 216, 217, 218, 219, 230, 231, 234, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 243, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 253, 254, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 261, 263, 264, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 273, 274, 276, 278, 279, 280, 281, 283, 284, 286, 287, 289, 290, 291, 293, 294, 296, 297, 298, 310, 312, 314, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 324, 326, 327, 328, 329, 340, 341, 342, 346, 347, 348, 349, 350, 351, 352, 354, 356, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 362, 364, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 374, 376, 378, 379, 380, 381, 382, 384, 386, 387, 389, 390, 391, 392, 394, 396, 397, 398, 510, 512, 513, 514, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 523, 524, 526, 527, 528, 529, 530, 531, 532, 534, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 543, 546, 547, 548, 549, 560, 561, 562, 563, 564, 567, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 573, 574, 576, 578, 579, 580, 581, 582, 583, 584, 586, 587, 589, 590, 591, 592, 593, 594, 596, 597, 598, 610, 612, 613, 614, 617, 618, 619, 620, 621, 623, 624, 627, 628, 629, 630, 631, 632, 634, 637, 638, 639, 640, 641, 642, 643, 647, 648, 649, 650, 651, 652, 653, 654, 657, 658, 659, 670, 671, 672, 673, 674, 678, 679, 680, 681, 682, 683, 684, 687, 689, 690, 691, 692, 693, 694, 697, 698, 710, 712, 713, 714, 716, 718, 719, 720, 721, 723, 724, 726, 728, 729, 730, 731, 732, 734, 736, 738, 739, 740, 741, 742, 743, 746, 748, 749, 750, 751, 752, 753, 754, 756, 758, 759, 760, 761, 762, 763, 764, 768, 769, 780, 781, 782, 783, 784, 786, 789, 790, 791, 792, 793, 794, 796, 798, 810, 812, 813, 814, 816, 817, 819, 820, 821, 823, 824, 826, 827, 829, 830, 831, 832, 834, 836, 837, 839, 840, 841, 842, 843, 846, 847, 849, 850, 851, 852, 853, 854, 856, 857, 859, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 867, 869, 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, 876, 879, 890, 891, 892, 893, 894, 896, 897, 910, 912, 913, 914, 916, 917, 918, 920, 921, 923, 924, 926, 927, 928, 930, 931, 932, 934, 936, 937, 938, 940, 941, 942, 943, 946, 947, 948, 950, 951, 952, 953, 954, 956, 957, 958, 960, 961, 962, 963, 964, 967, 968, 970, 971, 972, 973, 974, 976, 978, 980, 981, 982, 983, 984, 986, 987 

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                        I didn't include the 09-90 in this list and I'm wondering why because 4 nights ago Florida's winner was 209. I did this when I was tired I guess. So I would have had the winning number today. Bang Head

                        Basically I turned this,

                        06 60 03 30 63 36 73 37 71 17 31 13 08 80 04 40 84 48 95 59 91 19 99 92 29 76 67 78 87 68 89 61 16 34 43 44 05 00 50 64 46 14 41 21 12 22 94 49 54 45 47 74 20 02 72 27 70 07 08 80 28 82 10 01 24 42 93 39

                        Into this, (eliminated double pairs).

                        01          10          20          30          40          50          60          70          80          91

                        02          12          21          31          41          54          63          71          81          92

                        03          13          24          34          42          59          64          74          82          93

                        04          14          27          39          43                        67          76          84          94

                        05          16          29                        45                        68          78          86          95 

                        06          17                                      47                                                   87

                        07          18                                      48

                        08          19 

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                          I didn't include the 09-90 in this list and I'm wondering why because 4 nights ago Florida's winner was 209. I did this when I was tired I guess. So I would have had the winning number today. Bang Head

                          Basically I turned this,

                          06 60 03 30 63 36 73 37 71 17 31 13 08 80 04 40 84 48 95 59 91 19 99 92 29 76 67 78 87 68 89 61 16 34 43 44 05 00 50 64 46 14 41 21 12 22 94 49 54 45 47 74 20 02 72 27 70 07 08 80 28 82 10 01 24 42 93 39

                          Into this, (eliminated double pairs).

                          01          10          20          30          40          50          60          70          80          91

                          02          12          21          31          41          54          63          71          81          92

                          03          13          24          34          42          59          64          74          82          93

                          04          14          27          39          43                        67          76          84          94

                          05          16          29                        45                        68          78          86          95 

                          06          17                                      47                                                   87

                          07          18                                      48

                          08          19 

                          www.lotterypost.com/thread/298708

                          Amber, this is link to how I track pairs. This will eliminate missing a pair in your workouts.

                          Also, I combine pairs from MID and EVE. Doesn't add alot more combos and since I have, haven't missed a number because of not having the pair. Only if I filter it out or use wrong vtrac guide.

                          Hope it helps. Smile

                           Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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                            I didn't include the 09-90 in this list and I'm wondering why because 4 nights ago Florida's winner was 209. I did this when I was tired I guess. So I would have had the winning number today. Bang Head

                            Basically I turned this,

                            06 60 03 30 63 36 73 37 71 17 31 13 08 80 04 40 84 48 95 59 91 19 99 92 29 76 67 78 87 68 89 61 16 34 43 44 05 00 50 64 46 14 41 21 12 22 94 49 54 45 47 74 20 02 72 27 70 07 08 80 28 82 10 01 24 42 93 39

                            Into this, (eliminated double pairs).

                            01          10          20          30          40          50          60          70          80          91

                            02          12          21          31          41          54          63          71          81          92

                            03          13          24          34          42          59          64          74          82          93

                            04          14          27          39          43                        67          76          84          94

                            05          16          29                        45                        68          78          86          95 

                            06          17                                      47                                                   87

                            07          18                                      48

                            08          19 

                            Wow, that's a lot of pairs.

                            I never have had that many to start with and after reduction, usually have about 25-30. And I go back 11 draws. That's what works best for KS.

                             Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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                              Odds are Fla eve is getting a double in 2 draws. Assuming we get one more day at the 6 way striaight with that digit 5 skipping 10 draws heres a shot.

                               49 straights equal to about playing 8 boxes .     Guess thats why we are paid the big $$ bucks. 

                               

                               

                                                                                                49 straights or 4..9 %   or a 99.5% reduction. 

                               057, 059, 075, 095,

                              156, 157, 165, 185, 195,

                              257, 275, 356, 357, 359, 375,

                              495,

                              549, 561, 567, 569, 570, 571, 576, 581, 587, 589, 590, 591, 593, 596, 597,

                              651, 653, 659, 675, 695,

                              750, 752, 753, 756, 758, 759, 785, 795,

                              851, 857, 859, 875, 895 

                               

                               

                              *However since I like to save money and blow filter advantages most of the time I will play only these 21 straights below.

                              059, 156, 356, 359, 495,   567, 576, 587, 589, 593,

                               597, 653, 659, 675, 750,   752, 756, 758, 759, 795, 859