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Lucky Loser's avatar - bucks
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Posted: May 21, 2016, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

Lottery Sun does such a good job explaining how the information in its books and software make winning any game even Powerball easier which makes one wonder why they are selling the information rather than using it to win the games themselves.

You know, those of us who've been around here a while have to be very careful in how we discuss this very topic. I've been keeping an eye on it just to see how much it parallels, if you will, the many previous discussions of this same thing. The only difference is that additional authors have now realized there's a pretty decent market for people looking to conquer lottery games...and they deliver. Supply and demand. Then, once that demand is met with and a few players have read the publication and spread the word on how well it works, it then turns into Supply x Velocity where more and more people suggest/recommend it to others...so forth and so on. (I'm gonna put a dollar sign on this in just a bit.) It really should cause a person to wonder exactly what you've stated here before dropping the coin because it's really just common sense. Now, I don't doubt that the sellers of these books on strategies know something about numbers in relation to the game(s) but, it still takes us back to your original point here. For years, right here at LP, I've been on the same page and have shared this view with many members both currently here and no longer here for various reasons.

In the end, what's ultimately being shared to thousands of players is the idea and method of beating the lottery, right? Right. This, in and of itself, ought to compel the consumer to immediately delve into the author's background, especially on the financial end relating to lottery winnings. If the author's name cannot be directly matched to any state lottery's winner information list then it should raise a few red flags, and, a white one that looks like this one BS. The reason why is because this is all sales and marketing to meet the supply for a demand from people that may not really know any better. This isn't to say that the games cannot be won and the authors prolly have good intentions but, any book attempting to detail how to win a major jackpot game is a waste in my opinion. The Pick3/4 games are a completely different ball game but, again, are any of these authors cleaning up on Pick3/4? If so, why hasn't the lottery commission come out and banned the book(s) as they'd go broke if such a publication was accurate and allowing an unprecedented number of players across the nation to consistently win with ease every single day. We're talking about a business model to sell books which contain much of what you can find right here at LP, or, elsewhere in the .com world for the most part. I believe what happens is that whether it's a new author or an existing one with a book already out, they simply re-word what's already out there to accommodate a 'new version' for the year in question...not hard to do at all. Now, for that dollar sign I spoke of earlier. If a lottery system is being sold for $10 a pop and the author sells just even 20,000 copies of it, then you do the math there. After everyone is paid for their services, that's a decent income for the effort. Increase the number of copies being sold and you'll see exactly how these authors are winning their lotteries. I've never purchased one and, of course, don't plan to...don't need it. However, I do respect their ability to discover how to capitalize on such a market and master it. The money is there to be had.

I study market innovations all the time and this industry has experienced exponential growth since shortly the inception of lottery games. Ion Saliu is one of the first people I studied as he began his lottery science in 1997 and Texas Pick3 began October 25, 1993. I had already been crunching numbers and vetting methods for about 1 1/2 years before I discovered him. Interesting but, I just didn't see where all those exotic formulas were anywhere near relevant to such a game...seriously. Likewise, I question so many of today's 'formulas' when your basic pencil and paper will more than suffice. Lottery commissions' marketing caters to people's hopes and dreams of winning and so do the authors of books and systems for winning. They both win while leaving the consumer left still trying to figure out just how they can win. It's a vicious circle.

Disclaimer: This post isn't designed or intended to discourage anyone but, rather to shed light on the reality of what's going on.

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

#lotto-4-a-living

    amber123's avatar - OpIFNim

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    Posted: May 21, 2016, 12:39 pm - IP Logged

    You know, those of us who've been around here a while have to be very careful in how we discuss this very topic. I've been keeping an eye on it just to see how much it parallels, if you will, the many previous discussions of this same thing. The only difference is that additional authors have now realized there's a pretty decent market for people looking to conquer lottery games...and they deliver. Supply and demand. Then, once that demand is met with and a few players have read the publication and spread the word on how well it works, it then turns into Supply x Velocity where more and more people suggest/recommend it to others...so forth and so on. (I'm gonna put a dollar sign on this in just a bit.) It really should cause a person to wonder exactly what you've stated here before dropping the coin because it's really just common sense. Now, I don't doubt that the sellers of these books on strategies know something about numbers in relation to the game(s) but, it still takes us back to your original point here. For years, right here at LP, I've been on the same page and have shared this view with many members both currently here and no longer here for various reasons.

    In the end, what's ultimately being shared to thousands of players is the idea and method of beating the lottery, right? Right. This, in and of itself, ought to compel the consumer to immediately delve into the author's background, especially on the financial end relating to lottery winnings. If the author's name cannot be directly matched to any state lottery's winner information list then it should raise a few red flags, and, a white one that looks like this one BS. The reason why is because this is all sales and marketing to meet the supply for a demand from people that may not really know any better. This isn't to say that the games cannot be won and the authors prolly have good intentions but, any book attempting to detail how to win a major jackpot game is a waste in my opinion. The Pick3/4 games are a completely different ball game but, again, are any of these authors cleaning up on Pick3/4? If so, why hasn't the lottery commission come out and banned the book(s) as they'd go broke if such a publication was accurate and allowing an unprecedented number of players across the nation to consistently win with ease every single day. We're talking about a business model to sell books which contain much of what you can find right here at LP, or, elsewhere in the .com world for the most part. I believe what happens is that whether it's a new author or an existing one with a book already out, they simply re-word what's already out there to accommodate a 'new version' for the year in question...not hard to do at all. Now, for that dollar sign I spoke of earlier. If a lottery system is being sold for $10 a pop and the author sells just even 20,000 copies of it, then you do the math there. After everyone is paid for their services, that's a decent income for the effort. Increase the number of copies being sold and you'll see exactly how these authors are winning their lotteries. I've never purchased one and, of course, don't plan to...don't need it. However, I do respect their ability to discover how to capitalize on such a market and master it. The money is there to be had.

    I study market innovations all the time and this industry has experienced exponential growth since shortly the inception of lottery games. Ion Saliu is one of the first people I studied as he began his lottery science in 1997 and Texas Pick3 began October 25, 1993. I had already been crunching numbers and vetting methods for about 1 1/2 years before I discovered him. Interesting but, I just didn't see where all those exotic formulas were anywhere near relevant to such a game...seriously. Likewise, I question so many of today's 'formulas' when your basic pencil and paper will more than suffice. Lottery commissions' marketing caters to people's hopes and dreams of winning and so do the authors of books and systems for winning. They both win while leaving the consumer left still trying to figure out just how they can win. It's a vicious circle.

    Disclaimer: This post isn't designed or intended to discourage anyone but, rather to shed light on the reality of what's going on.

    The Pick3/4 games are a completely different ball game but, again, are any of these authors cleaning up on Pick3/4? If so, why hasn't the lottery commission come out and banned the book(s) as they'd go broke if such a publication was accurate and allowing an unprecedented number of players across the nation to consistently win with ease every single day.

     

    99% of people want a system that works, handed to them on a platter. They don't want to do any work, or minimal work as possible. Even the simplest systems that I've posted in the past has some so befuddled that they ask how to do the workout over and over again.

    As I wrote before, If you actually take a look at the book, it reads like a two year college course, not some quick math using the last draw. And most people, including me, neither have the time or energy to sacrifice. 

    I know you're opinion is based on system sellers in general, but In my opinion, this particular book can't be compared with those systems you see on the net, brandishing beautiful women and high end sports cars in the background. I had to do a little digging to find this book.

    The author states from the beginning that his intentions wasn't to write a book in a novel form, but as a course.

    Below is a couple of snippets,

    "You will be ready to read this entire book more than once.
    This book is not written as a story. It is not going to be an easy read.

    "This book is like learning a new language. You can achieve a lot more when you can speak the language. The lottery language that many are familiar with is the one where too many bettors lose.
    The lottery language in this book is completely different from everything you know about the lottery.
    Nearly every bettor has operated within the confines of what they learnt in their respective schools. That has not been adequate in the game of lottery betting.
    The language in this book will teach you how to operate outside the realm. You will master how to reverse the game to your own benefit.
    You can only do that if you make time and take effort to read and understand this book.
    I challenge you to study this entire book and tell me that you cannot win Pick 4 and every other lottery game consistently.
    You must master the tables and trends formation from chapter one.
    The rules set by the lottery board are based on luck. If you follow the rules and lose, you must change the rules to win.
    Be prepared to read this book.
    Look forward to joining the small group who enjoy consistent winnings as long as you are ready to put forth the effort."

     

    So I highly doubt there are enough people willing to sit through endless hours learning this and bankrupting the lottery. But i strongly believe there is a minority out there who have, and winning more than the average player.

      Lucky Loser's avatar - bucks
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      Posted: May 21, 2016, 1:11 pm - IP Logged

      The Pick3/4 games are a completely different ball game but, again, are any of these authors cleaning up on Pick3/4? If so, why hasn't the lottery commission come out and banned the book(s) as they'd go broke if such a publication was accurate and allowing an unprecedented number of players across the nation to consistently win with ease every single day.

       

      99% of people want a system that works, handed to them on a platter. They don't want to do any work, or minimal work as possible. Even the simplest systems that I've posted in the past has some so befuddled that they ask how to do the workout over and over again.

      As I wrote before, If you actually take a look at the book, it reads like a two year college course, not some quick math using the last draw. And most people, including me, neither have the time or energy to sacrifice. 

      I know you're opinion is based on system sellers in general, but In my opinion, this particular book can't be compared with those systems you see on the net, brandishing beautiful women and high end sports cars in the background. I had to do a little digging to find this book.

      The author states from the beginning that his intentions wasn't to write a book in a novel form, but as a course.

      Below is a couple of snippets,

      "You will be ready to read this entire book more than once.
      This book is not written as a story. It is not going to be an easy read.

      "This book is like learning a new language. You can achieve a lot more when you can speak the language. The lottery language that many are familiar with is the one where too many bettors lose.
      The lottery language in this book is completely different from everything you know about the lottery.
      Nearly every bettor has operated within the confines of what they learnt in their respective schools. That has not been adequate in the game of lottery betting.
      The language in this book will teach you how to operate outside the realm. You will master how to reverse the game to your own benefit.
      You can only do that if you make time and take effort to read and understand this book.
      I challenge you to study this entire book and tell me that you cannot win Pick 4 and every other lottery game consistently.
      You must master the tables and trends formation from chapter one.
      The rules set by the lottery board are based on luck. If you follow the rules and lose, you must change the rules to win.
      Be prepared to read this book.
      Look forward to joining the small group who enjoy consistent winnings as long as you are ready to put forth the effort."

       

      So I highly doubt there are enough people willing to sit through endless hours learning this and bankrupting the lottery. But i strongly believe there is a minority out there who have, and winning more than the average player.

      In short, I agree with you. Then, your red highlighted area should also cause players to wonder why this small group is being so quiet if they're winning as such. I'll tell you why, it's because we're dealing with gambling where only a few can successfully win at the expense of many losers which is the epitome of gambling in general. I've explained several times in the past the horrible truth associated with truly successful players of the small games which is: they're not going to share what they've actually discovered and proven to be a reasonably winning system. This is a system which allows the player to lose, because losses cannot be avoided, but it still keeps them ahead on the profit and wins side of the equation... methods do exist. They'd be fools to expose such accomplishment as it would cause problems for the commission in my opinion. The balance of winners and losers must absolutely prevail for any gambling venue to remain in business. All of this has been hashed out right here at LP over the years and I championed the reality of it. Not bragging, just being very honest okay. 

      If more money is paid out than is taken in, in any gaming business, what happens? If a restaurant gives away/replaces more food/drinks than it sells and has to replace, what happens? The oil industry. If prices go way down and companies retain all employees and pay benefits while not selling any oil, products, or services, what happens? 

      Answer: the 18th word in your very last sentence. Be very careful with your endeavors of lotto systems.

      Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

      There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

      #lotto-4-a-living

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        As one who has a pen and paper trend chart workout that can win, if I read the clues correctly and make the right choices, I can tell you that trying to explain
        a workout is a tough task, whether it is done for free or profit.
        In fact, I've stopped trying.
        Seems most folks have a pre-conceived idea about how to play and win.
        They just don't seem open to other methods.
        Actually, all the questions I had about my workout have been answered, without the assistance from anyone other than myself.
        It took a lot of trial and error over a period of years, but it's done.
        Yes, I'm winning now and then, and that's about all I expect.
        Would I sell it?? Probably not because it requires lot of attention to details.
        Today, folks generally don't have much regard for detail work, or facts, for that matter.
        My unsolicited advice is 'system players' need to figure it out on their own.
        Otherwise, you (generic) are just chasing your own tail.

          Pick-nick7's avatar - tableau
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          The Pick3/4 games are a completely different ball game but, again, are any of these authors cleaning up on Pick3/4? If so, why hasn't the lottery commission come out and banned the book(s) as they'd go broke if such a publication was accurate and allowing an unprecedented number of players across the nation to consistently win with ease every single day.

           

          99% of people want a system that works, handed to them on a platter. They don't want to do any work, or minimal work as possible. Even the simplest systems that I've posted in the past has some so befuddled that they ask how to do the workout over and over again.

          As I wrote before, If you actually take a look at the book, it reads like a two year college course, not some quick math using the last draw. And most people, including me, neither have the time or energy to sacrifice. 

          I know you're opinion is based on system sellers in general, but In my opinion, this particular book can't be compared with those systems you see on the net, brandishing beautiful women and high end sports cars in the background. I had to do a little digging to find this book.

          The author states from the beginning that his intentions wasn't to write a book in a novel form, but as a course.

          Below is a couple of snippets,

          "You will be ready to read this entire book more than once.
          This book is not written as a story. It is not going to be an easy read.

          "This book is like learning a new language. You can achieve a lot more when you can speak the language. The lottery language that many are familiar with is the one where too many bettors lose.
          The lottery language in this book is completely different from everything you know about the lottery.
          Nearly every bettor has operated within the confines of what they learnt in their respective schools. That has not been adequate in the game of lottery betting.
          The language in this book will teach you how to operate outside the realm. You will master how to reverse the game to your own benefit.
          You can only do that if you make time and take effort to read and understand this book.
          I challenge you to study this entire book and tell me that you cannot win Pick 4 and every other lottery game consistently.
          You must master the tables and trends formation from chapter one.
          The rules set by the lottery board are based on luck. If you follow the rules and lose, you must change the rules to win.
          Be prepared to read this book.
          Look forward to joining the small group who enjoy consistent winnings as long as you are ready to put forth the effort."

           

          So I highly doubt there are enough people willing to sit through endless hours learning this and bankrupting the lottery. But i strongly believe there is a minority out there who have, and winning more than the average player.

          Like i said in another thread about this book, i did spent days trying to decipher his system(s) however, to no avail. Avoid it if you are not masochistic in nature. Bang Head