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Posted: July 31, 2016, 5:58 pm - IP Logged

So we finally cashed in the 50 thousand dollar ticket. We cashed it in at Resorts in Ozone Park. We ended up paying a little over 18 thousand in taxes and the check was 31 thousand. 

 

ALL the small prize tickets that we have saved since 2008 were cashed in for about 50 thousand cash. Because they are small prizes we did not have to pay taxes on it. They even provided security escorts out because it was so much cash. I have to say the NYS Lottery was very helpful and they were very good to us. 

 

I will say that the lottery was informed that my letter has gained traction in the NYS Legislative and that they may have to change the way they destroy scratch off tickets

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    Posted: August 1, 2016, 10:15 pm - IP Logged

    Who cashed in this ticket? Was it you rgse90? How did you find this ticket when nobody else sold it? There are still 7 50k and 1 top price of a million dollar for life. This is the last week to cash in all those 1 million dollar a year for life ticket prizes. I found 1 stores that sold those tickets around April but after that, there is no way I can find any of those tickets. But I know some retailer or machine still has them. It might be few of last of it from a book that has been scattered in a retailer or so. They do lay tickets all over the place if it is one or 2 left. Which part of New York would you think they still have these tickets.

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      Posted: August 3, 2016, 7:20 am - IP Logged

      My experiences with this game are well documented on LP so I won't rehash the numerous posts. I will however, for the record state that the NYS Lottery has moved to a morally questionable business model.

      Over the past 5 or so years they have gone above and beyond to mislead consumers and make winning ticket info not easily accessible.

       

      Removed the Winners Atlas so players don't have access to the previous day's instant and draw game amounts and winning locations. You have to rely on the Winners Stories and Instant Game Reports.

       

      They don't place all the jackpot winners in the Winners Story section, nor do they always announce winners in the news. Sometimes they do with delays of months.

       

      They don't always update the Instant Game Report and Remaining Jackpot pages on Mondays. Sometimes they update one and not the other until days later. They even combine jackpots of games with the same name but different game numbers.

       

      These practices are intended; in my opinion, to purposely keep players uninformed and continue to drum up sales for games. 

       

      And lets not not get me started on the Odds formatting and top prizes of these new games they are putting out...

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        Posted: August 3, 2016, 1:12 pm - IP Logged

        Good reading! You don't need to update jackpot atlas, giving 1 week is enough time! People might not cas the ticket right away, so who knows...if someone who until update is release. You need to be smart and focus on games that either have more jackpot or should I say full jackpot, nobody won yet or games that can't be order and still has jackpot. Nothing in between! If they release a game with 4 jp 3 is still safe to play 2-1 is not so we wait until the game can't be order and start playing it till then!

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          Posted: August 3, 2016, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

          With the winners atlas location and prize amounts for jackpot games was available the day after the draw. With instant games it was the day after the ticket is scanned. Winners didnt have to claim or cash in and the info was available. 

          Now you have to wait until the winner decides to claim the prize and hope the lottery updates the website. 

          If i purchased a jackpot winner this past Monday and scanned it to make sure I'm not seeing things, previously players would have seen that on Tuesday.  Now the lottery can drum up at least six more days if i claim it this week, longer if i hold off.

           

          If players know a jackpot was just sold,  they tend to move onto another game, at least for awhile.

          I also know players that would avoid retailers if they know they just sold a jackpot or second prize as the odds of selling another one decreases. They might still play mega or powerball, but if the store nearest you sold a jackpot 1 million a year for life you think people would buy more of that game from that store?

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            Posted: August 3, 2016, 9:48 pm - IP Logged

            They are not making as much money with the atlas! But that doesn't help either! If you to keep track of it every day! The atlas makes it worse! To keep track of it you need to witness it by either seeing real ticket or photocopy of real ticket at store! What helps is the book number! That tells you if it is worth to play! Each month x amount of ticket is sold at 18,000 retailer but it can start at 10000! Next month some store will have 20000 book number and if you play 20000 your are smart but if you still playing 10000, you have less chance of hitting jackpot! That also tell you how fast the retailer is up to date! Some store can release ahead of other store when you compare 75% still has 10000 and 20000 is 25%! You gain the upper hand if you pull all your money at 20000! No matter how bias the lottery is there so be no 2 or more jackpot in 10000 range!

            New York million has 1 jackpot left in New York 2 was won in 2 weeks! 3 million dollar frenzy has also 1! 2 has been won in 1 month an 3 has been won in 7 month about! As you can see that is not how it works! You move on when there are no jp left or when there are generally one left and it's not worth it!

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              Posted: August 3, 2016, 10:41 pm - IP Logged

              Books are not always released in order but if you can find a retailer that will tell you what book number they are selling before you purchase than more power to you. It is also impossible to tell what book number a vending machine has before you put your non refundable money in AND NYS lottery will not show you parts of the winning ticket that will reveal what book it came from. You'll be lucky if they even show the ticket number.

               

              Two years ago when I first shed light on thier funny business particularly concerning this game a few people took notice. After using thier own info on thier website as well as freedom of info requests players started putting 2 and 2 together and seeing patterns develop. People called and wrote them. Then they took away the Atlas...

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                Posted: August 3, 2016, 11:06 pm - IP Logged

                The atlas was an information tool. In my opinion there is no such thing as too much info when it comes to being a consumer.  Whether you chose to use the atlas is on the individual but they should be given the choice. 

                An informed and educated consumer is counter productive to thier profit model...

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                  Posted: August 3, 2016, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

                  Nice try! A vending machine won't be able to tell you which book number it gives you from a ticket. But you can scout other people playing a ticket in vending machine either by the garbage or by looking at the ticket the guy brought. Another option is to buy 1 and check for yourself. There are so many retailers you won't need to buy it from a lottery machine. Book are not released in order but they are released in 10,000 which is in order. When a new game is released, they don't release 60,000 book number. They release 10000-20000 or 10000 and less. So common sense the 10000 book number are release in order. So if you match the hit rate to the book number. Mostly likely the Jackpot will not be in this ranges of tickets. But 2nd prize their could. So book numbers tell you or keeps you inform of the jackpot.

                  Vending machine holds set amount of ticket and the retailers barely refresh it because they need the key to the machine. So once it sold out, they would need to wait till the person holding the key to refresh the ticket. So by that means do not play that much in the machine. Sometime it could be old games that have no more  jackpot meaning the game number is old version not the newest one. Everything else is decisive but the book number is the key to keeping you up to date of the jackpot. That is the only positive thing to the general public as oppose to everything else posted by the lottery. 4 jackpot tells you how many book are printed for that game and how many time are left till you miss your chance for any jackpots. If still nobody hits a jackpot once it reaches a peak you know that the lowest book number or ranges of lowest book number is the best option to aim for a jackpot because there are less ticket left over compare to highest book number where as it just release to the general public and it would be less percentage of hitting the jackpot. Book number are scatter throughout retailers but are not release out of order. It seems so because it scattered through 18000 retailer and some has 3-4 books opened at a time. Remember you have to walk the walk to win jackpots. Staying in one plays give you only that designated location which if there is no jackpot there, you would be playing out of nothing as oppose to traveling to other location to play.

                  Example: On a 50 ticket book and 1 in 3mill odds of winning a scratch. 1-60000 book number is one range next would be 60001-120000 and so on. If no one hits the jackpot when the 180000-240000 book number is release to the public then the game is overdue and the best option to play is 1-60000 range upper range I would say 30000-60000 would give you a best option to hit this overdue game for a jackpot. Hope this helps.

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                    Posted: August 3, 2016, 11:44 pm - IP Logged

                    Frenzy 5$ is overdue and odd is 1 in 3million. The first jackpot of 4 has been won since a long time and should be overdue. The next jackpot to hit would be in 2nd lowest range the older range. Instead of 1-30000, 30001-60000 is the best option in hitting the next jackpot for New York $5 frenzy.

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                      Posted: August 4, 2016, 11:03 am - IP Logged

                      Of course you dont have to buy from a machine, but you do realize there are jackpot winners in machines. Two of which were from the game th is post is about.

                       My method was to use the atlas. They got rid of the atlas,  i stopped playing instant games. Problem solved.

                      We all have our methods. If you want to ask other players and dig through garbage then more power to you and good luck. Let us know if you win!

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                        Posted: August 4, 2016, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

                        Sorry post got refresh didn't get through this morning! It is a game of chance so if you follow the atlas how does it help you win? Ny Million was released with 4 jackpot I presume and 3 of them has been won already, 2 won this year in 2 weeks or less. They printed out a range of book numbers but release so many to the public at one time throughout 18000 retailer which not all of them has because it require 1250$ investment. But the upper hand is that some retailer do carry 2-5 books or even more. When they opened so many books the chance of 2 jackpot can be released all at once. So even if you follow the atlas and not play this game because someone hit a jackpot in one week, you are wrong. Someone hit another right after this one. So the atlas confuses you. You look at the book number and how many jackpots are left. Atlas doesn't reveal people that doesn't cash the ticket right away. So if someone is holding it, the atlas wouldn't even know. So what the point of the atlas, I feel there is no point in favoring us. Whatever the retailer gives out to the general public doesn't favor us, it might favor them.

                        Now lets talk about life 30$ which still has one week before it expires. I would say that the only way that someone would win is if the lottery or gtech doesn't have it. This game is the highest amount every created. Retailer at that time mostly has 1-2 books open, not like now when they open like 5 books at a time. This is why there is still one jackpot left because not allot of retailer have allot of open books so the chance of having 2 jackpot released at once is slim to none. go by the book number and nothing else.

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                          Posted: August 5, 2016, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

                          From what i understand gtech collected the remaining tickets earlier this year. The OP of this thread made a lot of noise and worked very hard to expose this. 

                          My strategy with using the Atlas may not have been the best,  but it was easy for me.

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                            Posted: August 5, 2016, 3:37 pm - IP Logged

                            Yes that is why I don't like collecting the remaining tickets before it expires and foremost keep releasing new tickets so they have many reason to take them back. Atlas may seem good before increase in retail! Now they don't have to put that out to increase sales so it gives them many reason to take it out. That is what I truly believe. There is report that is update every Monday morning! I keep following it until this week that there is only 1 change in the games that still have top prize left and can't be order which is the op. Now being said that this doesn't fail in comparison to atlas. You got to realize that when something is overdue it is bound to happen!  Frenzy 5$ is overdue no one hit jp after one in Kings highway so it is overdue and atlas doesn't show it because nobody hit again. Even if someone hit this week and we don't get update 2 jp to hit in same game in one week is rare. But if one is hit and game is overdue it might hit one after another.

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                              Posted: August 8, 2016, 10:10 am - IP Logged

                              The top,prize report isn't always updated on Mondays. Prizes of the same game but different numbers are often lumped together and as of 10AM today the report is screwed up. The Atlas was updated the next day, went back as far as a year if I can remember correctly and could be filtered by the game. I could also see what area had high payouts and decide whether to avoid them in favor of areas that didn't have large winners in the last 6 months. Also if there was a jackpot winner recently in the game I liked to play (596) I'd save my money for awhile because using the Atlas I realized the winners were released once a year.