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bobby623's avatar - abstract
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Posted: September 15, 2016, 8:01 pm - IP Logged
I' ve been working on a revised paper and pencil workout for Pick5/3X games.
I'm going to use the New York Take5/39 jackpot game to test some ideas.
Yes, I'm in Texas but our 5/37 game is a big joke and not worth my time.
We all know that lottery gambling can be an expensive hobby.
Personally, I'm spending more than I should, but, it's entertainment with a potential
payback.
The cheapest way to play is buying a lottery generated Quick Pick.
Take5 is $1 game played 7 days per week.
One dollar times 7 equals $7 per week, $30/$31 per month.
Not that expensive.
The question is - What to play?
The QP is a favorite choice, but lot of lottery gamblers prefer "personal picks."
The next question is - What integers have best chance of winning?
There are many ideas on how to choose integers.
I prefer a  method whereby integers are selected in accordance with an Alpha Signature.
Using Take5 winning integer data I've collected since August 1, signature 'ABCDD' is the most popular at present.
I have trend charts suggesting that numerical signature 6.16.20.23.30 will arrive soon.
Deeper pocket?
Playing three sets could be more productive.
Therefore, based on the available data, I suggest the following for the Aug 15 drawing.
ABCDD - 6.16.20.23.30
ABBCD - 1.17.19.21.33
BBCDD - 10.14.29.36.38
Let's see what happens!
Thanks for your interest.
    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Posted: September 16, 2016, 1:57 pm - IP Logged
    Take 5
    Thursday, September 15, 2016
    9 11 24 27 29

    Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 11:21 pm

    Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

    What was the signature of the winner?

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
                 Evil Looking       

      bobby623's avatar - abstract
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      Posted: September 16, 2016, 3:34 pm - IP Logged

      Hello, RJOH

      Winning combination: 9-11-24-27-29 - ABCCC

      Given that most of my integer choices were WAGs due to very little trend data, I suppose one hit is better than no hits.
      Going to take some time to flesh out the trend lines.
      The alpha signatures I chose are popular in any Pick5/3X game, but this doesn't mean they will take command of the process.
      I'm going to let everything ride for couple of more days.
      Here is the log entry for the 15th:

      15  9.11.24.27.27  ABCCC2  ABC10  BCC13  CCC6  1103/2

      WAG = Wild Ass Guess!

        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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        Posted: September 16, 2016, 8:41 pm - IP Logged
        Rolling Cash 5
        Friday, September 16, 2016
        1 11 13 30 35

        Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 7:05 pm

        $215,000

        Change from last:

        $48,000

        I'm starting to get interested in RC5 again.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
                     Evil Looking       

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          Posted: September 17, 2016, 5:25 am - IP Logged

          Hello, RJOH

          Winning combination: 9-11-24-27-29 - ABCCC

          Given that most of my integer choices were WAGs due to very little trend data, I suppose one hit is better than no hits.
          Going to take some time to flesh out the trend lines.
          The alpha signatures I chose are popular in any Pick5/3X game, but this doesn't mean they will take command of the process.
          I'm going to let everything ride for couple of more days.
          Here is the log entry for the 15th:

          15  9.11.24.27.27  ABCCC2  ABC10  BCC13  CCC6  1103/2

          WAG = Wild Ass Guess!

          WAG = Wild Ass Guess!

          LOL

          .
            bobby623's avatar - abstract
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            Posted: September 17, 2016, 10:36 am - IP Logged

            0916 - 4.8.18.19.30 - AABBD1  AAB4  ABB1  BBD3  2201/1

            Wow - 2/15!

            I'm assuming that the folks following this thread are experienced players, and don't require a lot of explanation.
            For those 'flying on a wing and a prayer,' here is a breakdown:

            Date
            Winning combination
            Alpha Signature and Inventory (Since Aug 1)
            First 3 letters in the whole signature/Total
            Middle 3/Total
            Last 3/Total

            2201/1 - This is a Numerical Signature. 2 As, 2Bs,No C, 1D and total whole signatures since Aug 1.
            This data simplifies trend analysis.

            Trends is sort of a dirty word in lottery play.
            A lot of so-called experts say lotteries are random and there are no trends.
            Well, I beg to differ.
            I'm not a preacher but I say generating and analyzing trends is the only true weapon we have.
            You have to know where a game has been to get any idea of where it might be headed.
            The trend lines define game history.
            The future is determined by our individual ability to analyze trend data and use the available clues to
            find best answers to the What's Next question.
            There are many kinds of trend charts, but not all of them tell a useful story.
            I'll be presenting my choices.
            Hopefully, I'll one day 'read the tea leaves' correctly and have a good win/loss story to tell.
            I'm going to let my choices ride for another day.
            Thanks for your interest.

              bobby623's avatar - abstract
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              Posted: September 17, 2016, 12:49 pm - IP Logged

              I've been asked via PM to explain Alpha Signatures.

              Any Pick 5/39 game can be divided into 4 groups, or Decades A, B, C, D.
              Decade A - Integers 1 to 9
              Decade B - Integers 10 to 19
              Decade C - Integers 20 to 29
              Decade D - Integers 30 to 39.
              The signatures are determined via substitution.
              For example: The alpha signature for Winning combination 1.6.10.21.36 is AABCD.
              The 1 and 6 are As, the 10 is a B, 21 is a C and 36 is a D.
              It's a memory thing.
              Therefore, if you (generic) believe the next winning combination will be based on Alpha Signature BBCCD, you
              would choose 2 integers from Decade B, 2 from Decade C and one from Decade D.
              Choose correctly and win!
              A note: Some players believe a different integer assignment is superior.
              Well, to each his own, but I strongly suggest you ignore that advice, mainly because those advocating a different arrangement
              never support their opinions with factual data. It's just their humble opinions.
              It's important to keep all decisions true to the game.
              Now the question is - how to choose the winning integers?
              That's a personal choice.
              I have mine and I'll offer them at the appropriate time.
              Thanks for your interest.

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                Posted: September 18, 2016, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

                Results for 0917

                17 - 7.11.18.28.31 ABBCD4 ABB8 BBC8 BCD8 1211/4
                No hits!
                3 draw summary: W0$/L9$.
                Need more trend data!!

                Here are my 'best guesses' for next 3 draws:
                ABBCD - 1.10.23.25.38
                ABBCD - 8.14.16.29.39
                BBCDD - 15.17.21.32.35

                Here are the Pick lines for 0918:
                Decade A - 1*2.6.5*3.9.8*4.7
                Decade B - 10.13*16.17.12*14.15.19*11.18
                Decade C - 21.20*25.26.22*23.24.27*29.28
                Decade D - 33.36*38.32.34*39.35.37*30.31

                Will explain how pick lines are generated in another post.
                Thanks for your interest!

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                  Posted: September 19, 2016, 12:39 pm - IP Logged
                  FYI
                  I've been told that tracking lottery game history using systematic charts is a waste of time!
                  Well, to each his own!
                  My question is - how can you expect to make winning choices if you don't have any historical information regarding past events?
                  Tracking specific data goes on in just about every life activity, from sales to whatever.
                  I doubt that many businesses can survive without a data base showing current sales information.
                  Lottery gambling is a business.
                  The more we know about current game trends the more likely we will make a few winning choices.
                  Tracking and trends are important features.
                  Folks who believe they can win just by 'flying on a wing and a prayer,' so to speak, are probably not winning much.
                  Bottom line - if you don't have the time and the smarts to track Take5, then you should by
                  all means do something else,
                  There are a lot of folks selling lottery 'snake oil' who stand ready to take your money with empty promises.
                  Included in this group are odds makers, the statisticians, the mathematicians, astrologists, and 'you name it'.
                  A lot of people think that there is a mathematical solution to winning.
                  If this is true, then the folks pushing mathematical methods must believe, whether they want to admit it or not, that the lottery machine outputs are  based on a mathematical formula.
                  I've watched hundreds of actual drawings and I can tell you that, in Texas, the winning integers are randomly selected by a dumb machine that has no memory. It just does what it's programmed to do - period!
                  Winning a lottery drawing is a challenge.
                  Systematic analysis of lottery game history is a valid activity.
                  However, the difference in winning and losing is correct interpretation of historical information reflected in the trend lines.
                  I'm presenting a method to create and maintain several rational tracking schemes that can help a player make good choices, but there are no guarantees.
                  I've noted that the response to my presentations won't win any awards, and maybe I'm fighting a losing battle.
                  New York Take5 has been around a long time. Maybe folks are spending their dollars on  other games.
                  Or, maybe I'm using the wrong LP Forum.
                  Seems there have been thousands of responses on Take5 topics the Pick 5 Forum.
                  Take5 is a jackpot game, not a numbers game.
                  I have more stuff to post, but, maybe I should just turn my attention to Texas.
                  Thanks for your interest.
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                    A Pick File is a current list of the integers in order of occurrence.
                    The source for this information is the Game History chart where winning combinations
                    are logged in Draw/Date order.
                    There are four Pick Files in NYTake5 game, one for each Decade.
                    The procedure is to generate a Master file which is rearranged following each drawing.
                    The last update then becomes for Pick File for the next drawing.
                    The updates provide a 'trend chart' for future reference and analysis.
                    My Master list for Decade A was initiated on August 15.
                    The updated list are logged, on graph paper, in adjacent columns.
                    Pick File
                    Pick Files are broken into five Zones (A, B, C, D and E)
                    The sequences are logged in horizontal rows by date.
                    Zone A has one or two graph cells which are reserved for integers that have been
                    'out' the longest.
                    Zone B has three consecutive cells for the next three integers.
                    Zone C has three consecutive cells for the next three integers.
                    Zone D has two cells for the two most recent integer arrivals.
                    Zone E has one or more cells depicting the Zone in which the winning integer resided.
                    This provides a trend data line that can be used for future analysis.
                    Here are the current Pick Files as of the 0918 drawing.
                    Decade A
                    0918 - 1*265*398*47*C
                    Decade B
                    0918 -10.13*16.17.12*14.15.19*11.18*A
                    Decade C
                    0918 - 21.20*25.26.22*23.24.27*29.28*N
                    N = none drawn.
                    Decade D
                    0918 - 33.36*38.32.34*39.35.37*30.31*ABC
                    The winning zone data is logged in a single column for future reference.
                    How to Use a Pick File?
                    This process begins with selection of an Alpha Signature.
                    Ex: ABCCD.
                    Interpretation - User needs to choose one integer from Decade A, one integer from Decade B, two integers from Decade C and one integer from Decade D.
                    From this point on its up to the User to decide which integers to play.
                    It's a personal choice.
                    There are no algorithms, no mathematical formulae, no hot and cold lists, no odd and even
                    lists, no VTRACs, no pair and triad lists.
                    It's a mental process.
                    If the Pick File lists are accurate, up-to-date, there might be a clue or two that could help
                    the User find good answers to the most important question in lottery play - What's Next?
                    At present, the trend data is in short supply, but will eventually have a lot of useful information.
                    It all rests on the User.
                    Choose correctly and win, maybe.
                    You just have to hope that the drawing machine agrees with your choices.
                    Of course, this may not happen as often as we would like.
                    Thanks for your interest.
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                      Hi bobby623,

                      Your pick file strategy sounds intriguing. I'll try it out with CA Fantasy 5 after I study it some more. Thanks for posting!

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                        <Moved to Pick 5 forum>

                        Please post in the appropriate forum ... thank you.

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                          Posted: September 20, 2016, 10:23 am - IP Logged

                          0919 - 4.18.20.26.37 - ABCCD7 - ABC11 - BCC14 - CCD12 - 1121/7

                          No hits!

                          Thanks for your interest!

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                            0920 - 3.8.12.29.34 - AABCD - AAB5  - ABC4 - BCD9 - 2111/4

                            Had 2 hits (8.29) on same line for a Free Play!!

                            Pardon the typos in previous posts!

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                              I'm glad I was able to achieve at least one win!
                              Some Free Plays turn out to be winners!
                              Time for a 'workout' review.
                              Required Documentation.
                              1. Game History.|
                              2. Partial Alpha Signatures (F3, M3, L3) Inventory List.
                              3. Pick Files (1 set per Decade)
                              4. Playbook
                              I've tried, without the advantage of graphics, to describe the role these documents play
                              in this Alpha Numeric Substitution workout.
                              Choosing the best integers demands that the data base be complete at all times.
                              In other words, every winning combination MUST be processed, according to the rules
                              of procedure, in the order that they occur.
                              Personal comments:
                               I will not be posting any of my future choices.
                              I think I've presented enough data that will allow anyone who wants to be a Systems Player to proceed on their own.
                              I'm not a preacher, but, if you don't have time or the smarts to use this workout to full advantage, then perhaps you (generic) need to look for a race track, Casino or Bingo Hall.
                              There's nothing worse than basing your choices on corrupt data.
                              Legible writing is a must, as I've learned many times!
                              I set aside one hour per day to do my processing work.

                              For What It's Worth
                              1. Trust the lottery.
                              If you believe the game is being managed in some way, or, that you are losing because the drawings are not random enough, try another form of gambling.
                              2. The lottery balls are 'dumb as dirt' and have no memory. They do not communicate with each other during the mixing process to create algorithmns, roots, pairs, triples or other mathematical applications. These are man-made gimmicks and don't apply to this workout.
                              3. Believe in yourself.
                              Create and maintain a Playbook that reflects your choices and observations.
                              Trends lines almost always contain useful clues.

                              Odds and Statistics
                              The folks who designed a pick 5 from a ball set having 39 integers know exactly how
                              often any part or whole integer combination can occur in 575,757 revolutions.
                              However, these facts are distorted by the mixing and ball selection process.
                              Many players would have us believe that the pre-mix odds and statistics apply to real-time
                              drawings.
                              To each his own!
                              This workout has no features based on odds and statistics.
                              It is NOT a prediction system. There are no features that generate  ready to play
                              combinations. All choices are based on User observations.

                              Wheeling
                              Using wheels to arrange individual integer choices into specific combinations is
                              a valid playing option, if you have sufficient funds.
                              I have a wheeling method for Take5, which I will present at a later time.

                              Difficult to believe that I've not received a single question about this workout.
                              Is that because I'm  a good writer, or, is it that New York gamblers don't really give a
                              hoot about what a Texan thinks??
                              Thanks for your interest.