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NewYork Take5/39 Jackpot game.

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I have a couple questions, if I may.  I'm not a New Yorker and I do appreciate what you have to say.

I want to analyze the Tri-State Gimme5 (1/39) using your workout instructions.

So:

   When you say "total" are you referring to the number of times an Alpha signature has occurred

since the beginning date of the history data base? I think so, but not sure.

 

   I don't understand the pick file line interpretation for each decade. For example:

Decade B

0918 - 10.3*16.17.12*14.15*19*11.18*A

    also meaning of C, A, N, ABC at end of line(s)

 

Thanks for any help/clarification.

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    I have a couple questions, if I may.  I'm not a New Yorker and I do appreciate what you have to say.

    I want to analyze the Tri-State Gimme5 (1/39) using your workout instructions.

    So:

       When you say "total" are you referring to the number of times an Alpha signature has occurred

    since the beginning date of the history data base? I think so, but not sure.

     

       I don't understand the pick file line interpretation for each decade. For example:

    Decade B

    0918 - 10.3*16.17.12*14.15*19*11.18*A

        also meaning of C, A, N, ABC at end of line(s)

     

    Thanks for any help/clarification.

    First question: You are correct.
    You will over a period of time discover that some whole or partial signatures show up more often than others.
    I've identified a few popular signatures for NY. 
    Your game will be slightly different.
    After you have processed a few drawings, you can step back, evaluate the partial signatures (F3, M3, L3) and come up with
    different whole signatures for your game, which may or may not be different from Take5.

    Every pick file is divided into 5 sections, parts or whatever you want to call them
    Assuming the file is horizontal, the sections are from left to right   A, B, C, D and E.
    If there is a Decade B integer in the winning combination, you would mark it in some way, and then enter the
    A, B, C, or D in Section E.
    You could have multiple winners, so, would list them in A to D order.
    If there is no integer, you would enter 'N' in section E.
    The last part of this logging process is putting the Section E data in a separate column somewhere on the playsheet.
    If there are 2 or more entries, you would list them in a single file in order of occurrence.
    This file will get longer and longer and you will soon be able to make decisions regarding the What's Next question.
    Maybe Section A shows up more often than the others.
    You could start an inventory.
    You would then make a personal decisions based on your evaluation of game progress.
    Bottom line - you will soon have a lot of INFORMATION about each Decade.
    It's guess work but the trends don't lie.
    Just make sure you log every drawing. Omissions corrupt the process and there are no easy fixes.
    Thanks for your interest

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      Thank you.  Now to do my homework.

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        Explaining a wheeling strategy for Pick 5/39 games without the aid of graphics is proving to be a difficult task.
        The first order of business is renaming the ping pong balls.
        Henceforth, they will be known as 'wooden blocks' like those found in most kindergarten classrooms.
        Because the blocks are deadwood, there can be no algorithms, no mathematics, no odds, no probability, no roots, no pairings, no statistical charts or other gimmicks.
        The blocks are arranged and rearranged according to specific plans.
        This method begins by breaking the game into 4 Decades, as was done for alpha numeric substitution.
        Each Decade is then sub-divided into 3 sections called Main A, Main B and Main C.
        Decade A
        Main A is for blocks 1, 2 and 3.
        Main B is for blocks 4,5 and 6.
        Main C is for blocks 7,8, and 9.
        The other Decades are divided in a similar manner. The only difference is Main C will have four
        blocks.
        Star Charts
        Using game history, the individual blocks are recorded on graph paper, left to right, in order of occurrence.
        Note: There are graph notebooks available having sheets where one side has regular size cells.
        The reverse side has much smaller cells, usually about 55 columns. The more columns per page, the more trend data that be visually analyzed.
        When the blocks are arranged properly, they will reflect the random integer selection process, whatever that may be, and reveal definite trends have clues to the What's Next? question.
        The challenge the User faces is keeping the trend lines current. Errors or omissions can be provide false data that may not be recognized.
        Correcting errors is a really tedious, discouraging process.
        Here is a current Decade A, Main A Start chart since 090116.

        1 - *....
        2 - .*...
        3 - ..***

        4 - ..*...**.*
        5 - **..**....
        6 - ...*....*

        7 - *....*.
        8 - .*..*.*
        9 - ..**...

        Note: The '.' = empty cell
        These entries will line up properly when transferred to graph paper.
        A LP member, JadeLottery, suggested that this type chart is a tool whereby we can take advantage
        of the random lottery process.
        He presented some detailed charts that pertain to the big jackpot games.
        I just stole the idea and adapted it to a smaller game.
        The individual lines will advance as more data is added.

        Why call the charts Star Charts??
        Some folks can make a mental evaluation of trend data and somehow know where the 'dot' will fall next.
        Here, a 'dot' represents a lottery integer.
        In my view, folks who are that good are 'Lottery Stars' who will probably make the right choices more often than the rest of us.
        I have never been that good at analyzing data!!
        Other folks look at a lines of dots and see patterns.
        They will show up with this logging method - right and left diagonals, right and left steps or chairs, teaspoons, table spoons, tents, to name a few.

        The challenge for the User is to "GUESS" where the dot will go next - repeat, move up or down, depending on where it is.
        If you (generic) believe that next move for an individula dot will complete a right diagonal, you would choose the appropriate box integer for that line.

        Folks who don't support 'substitution' will correctly observe that this method requires a lot of
        guesswork.
        But, that's what lottery gambling is all about - trying to second-guess the lottery machines.
        So, if guessing is not your 'cup of tea,' so to speak, there are a ton of other, mostly
        mathematical models your can try.
        Or, you could spend a bunch of dollars for a fancy software program that is probably nothing
        more than a random number generator.

        Choosing Integers for a Wheel.
        The first decision a User has to make is - how much do I want spend, and how often do I play.
        Wheels can be very expensive - lt's a "to each his own" situation.
        Personally, I'm cheap.
        I want to choose a wheel that give me the biggest bang for the few dollars I want to spend.
        If I were in NY, I would wheel 12 integers to  generate 6 combinations.
        Total cost would be 42$ per week, which might fit any budget.
        The 12 integer pool would require a User to choose 3 integers from each Decade, to obtain the best coverage for a small price.
        You could use those 12 integers to create a larger number of combinations and play once per week.
        Personal choice, but try not to burst your budget!!
        Data Base
        Where do you start? How many previous drawings do you need?
        Some folks, the Excel experts, maintain that you need to go back to the day the game was introduced, but that is definitely not recommended
        I believe one month would be a good start.
        If you are using a 55-column graph sheet, you have room for 50 entries.
        When you reach the end, you would erase the data in the first 25 columns.
        In this way, you would always be looking at 50 columns.
        By the way, I would avoid automation via Excel.
        Face it, what you are doing here is opening a new 'brain file' that will be used to choose the integers that have the best chance of showing up in the next winning combination.
        It's a mental process that will improve with usage.
        The more data you have in front you, the better the chance your 'brain'  will make good choices.
        Automation can impede the analysis.

        I have a method for evaluating the trend lines that provide some rationale answers to the What's Next questions, but, I can't  present here.
        Basically, I would need to define some charts that, unfortunately, I don't have the writing skills to explain without causing a lot of confusion.
        So, sorry about that.
        This concludes my postings for NY Take5, and any other Pick 5/39 game.
        Since this is a new method of choosing integers, I need to determine if it's worth
        all the work.
        I believe it is, but, a winning ticket is the best proof.
        Thanks for your interest.
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          Hello All!

          If you are still interested, I'll be presenting some lottery analysis techniques that will apply to any Pick 5/3X game.
          There will be 4 pages of data designed to help Users choose the best answers to the What's Next? questions.
          Some folks believe a 'one-dimensional' data base is sufficient, but I disagree.
          The tracking charts I'll present, without the aid of graphics, give the User several 'trend lines' to choose from.
          All of the data will probably be familiar to experienced systems players except for a feature I call 'Gaps.'
          I'll explain how Gaps are generated in a separate posting.
          As an aside - a lot of lottery gamblers believe paper and pencil workouts require too much guess work.
          They would rather punch a few computer keys and get ready to play combinations.
          Well, my theory is that the more we know about game history, the better our chances of making winning choices about future possibilities.
          Playing lottery is trying to second-guess which integers will be in the ball machine output file.
          Everybody is guessing, and most of the guessing is wrong, given the poor win/loss ratio many regular players have.
          The guesswork embodied in my workouts are 'educated guesses' because they stem from rationale tracking charts.
          What I'm saying is the workout I'm describing does in fact require a lot of guesswork, but that doesn't mean choosing winning
          combinations is impossible.
          Stay tuned.

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            Hello All!

            If you are still interested, I'll be presenting some lottery analysis techniques that will apply to any Pick 5/3X game.
            There will be 4 pages of data designed to help Users choose the best answers to the What's Next? questions.
            Some folks believe a 'one-dimensional' data base is sufficient, but I disagree.
            The tracking charts I'll present, without the aid of graphics, give the User several 'trend lines' to choose from.
            All of the data will probably be familiar to experienced systems players except for a feature I call 'Gaps.'
            I'll explain how Gaps are generated in a separate posting.
            As an aside - a lot of lottery gamblers believe paper and pencil workouts require too much guess work.
            They would rather punch a few computer keys and get ready to play combinations.
            Well, my theory is that the more we know about game history, the better our chances of making winning choices about future possibilities.
            Playing lottery is trying to second-guess which integers will be in the ball machine output file.
            Everybody is guessing, and most of the guessing is wrong, given the poor win/loss ratio many regular players have.
            The guesswork embodied in my workouts are 'educated guesses' because they stem from rationale tracking charts.
            What I'm saying is the workout I'm describing does in fact require a lot of guesswork, but that doesn't mean choosing winning
            combinations is impossible.
            Stay tuned.

            I'm definitely interested ...

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              This begins with the assumption that those folks interested in my Workout have created the
              NY Take5 game history file,the Pick Files  the winning integer file, and the Results file (previously known as Section E).
              My data begins with the 0915 NY Take 5 drawing (9.11.24.27.29)
              Decade A (4 pages)
              Page 1 - The Master Integer file (integers out the longest to recent arrivals in a column)
              My last entry:
              26
              1
              *
              2
              5
              9
              *
              3
              5
              6
              *
              7
              8
              Note: Seems integer 1 has gotten lost!
              Page 2 - Play List (The last Master Sequence in a Row with the winner in Section R (formerly E), and Next Pick File.
              (Read, left to right: Date,  26 -Section A (1), Section B (259), Section C (835), Section D (76), Section R - two winners, Sections C and D
              The 27  row are the choices for 0927.
              Pick Files:
              26 - 1 * 259 * 835 * 76*CD
              27 - 1 * 259 * 356 *78*
              Page 3 - Winning Sections, Values and Sum for Last 2)
               (Data will line up when transferred to graph paper)
              S - ACACCCDBCBCCCCD
              V - 131333423233334
              2 - x44466765556667
              S = Winning Section from Page 2 in order of occurrence.
              V = Values
              2 = Sum totals for last 2 Values.
              Note: Each of the four Section letters are given a Value.
              A=1,  B=2, C=3, D=4
              Important: The letter N is used to indicate there was no winner for that draw.
              I've chosen not to process the Ns.
              If you decide to track them, then remember that when the analysis points to N, then
              you would not choose any integers in that Pick File when deciding what to play.
              Kind of risky, but, to each his own.
              Page 4 - Followers (Gaps,  Values and Last 2 Sums)
              Referring to Page 3.
              V (Value)
              1 - 33
              2 - 33
              3 - 133423334
              4 - 2
              Explanation:
              Referring to the V row
              1 is followed by 3 and 3.
              2 is followed by 3 and 3
              3 is followed by 1,3,3,4,2,3,3,3,4
              4 is followed by 2
              Last V is 4
              What's next???
              I would probably choose 2
              If I'm correct, the next winning section in the Pick File would be Section B.
              The Follower lines are updated after each drawing.

              L2 Followers
              4 - 4,4,6,
              5 - 5,5,6,
              6 - 6,7,5,6,6,7
              7 - 6
              8 -
              L2 (Last 2 values)
              44 - 4,6,....................54........................64..................74..........84
              45 - .........................55 - 5.6.................65 - 5..............75.........85
              46 - 6,.......................56 - 6...................66 - 7,6,7.........76 - 5.....86
              47 - .........................57.........................67 - 6,.............77.........87
              L2 Sums are determined by adding consecutive Values.
              For example, the V line begins with 1311
              The first Sum is 1+3=4, 3+1=4, 1+1=2, etc
              The first L2 Sum is 44 followed by 4, then 44-6, 46-6, etc
              The last L2 is 7
              What's next??
              (Not enough data to make a good choice)
              Important: If you are confident that the next V is a 2, you don't have to choose a L2.
              The last L2 Sum is 67
              What's Next??
              Again, not enough information.
              What's the purpose of L2 Sum??
              The L2 Sums provide a rationale Trend line that can help a User make better choices.
              There isn't much data now, but, something significant could show up as more Sums are
              added.
              It's one of the advantages of Substitution!
              GAP Followers
              G
              1 - 13113
              2 - 2121
              3 - 242
              4 - 33
              The last G number is 3.
              What's Next??
              I would probably choose '2', based on Follower chart where 3 is followed by 242 ?

              Page 4 - Layout
              Reserve 15 consecutive columns on the left side of the graph page for Gap creation.
              All of the follower list are logged on the right side of the page.
              This give the User an opportunity to see all the pertinent information at once.
              Note: I'm going to demonstrate how Gaps are created with a separate post.
              The Decades B, C, D charts are created in the same manner as Decade A.
              Hope there aren't too many errors, typos!!
              Thanks
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                What is a Gap??
                Gap is the number of Active graph paper cells between an item added to a column and the exact same item that is already on the list.
                Active cells are individual cells containing a single integer, a letter or other forms of recurring data required by specific tracking charts.
                InActive cells are cells that have been 'marked off' in some way to indicate that they are not counted during the Gap creation process.
                InActive cells retain their position in the column.
                Data stream is a consecutive listing of individual cells in a column.
                While there can be many Gap columns, only one is needed for indepth analysis of Pick File Section winners.
                Graph paper is required.
                The following is an example.
                To ensure that all possibilities are listed, the column headers and initial inputs are:
                S G
                A

                C
                D
                ___

                Add a new A.
                Count the Active cells between the A added and the A already on the list.
                The Count is '4'
                Mark off the older A, and enter a 4  in the G column.
                S  G
                A*
                B
                C
                D
                A  4
                The * is used to show the S entry has been marked off.
                Add a B to the S column.
                Count the unmarked cells between the B being added and the B already in the column.
                B   4
                Updated list
                A*
                B*
                C
                D
                ---
                A 4
                B 4
                Add an A
                Revised list
                A*
                B*
                C
                D
                A* 4
                B   4
                A   2
                Note: There can never be more than 4 unmarked cells in the S column
                Here are the Gaps for NYTake 5, as listed on Decade A, Page 4.

                S    G
                A * 4
                C*  3
                A     2
                C *  2
                C*   1
                C*   1
                D*   3
                B*   4
                C*   3
                B     2
                C*   2
                C*   1
                C*   1
                C      1
                D     3


                Gap Followers
                1 - 13113
                2 - 2121
                3 - 242
                4 - 33
                Last Gap = 3
                What's Next??
                I think I would choose '2'
                If I'm right, the next winning integer will be in Section  C
                How do I know this?
                The Section is determined by counting UP the S column.
                I chose 2, the second Unmarked letter from the bottom of the list is  'C'
                If I had chose 3, the Section would be 'B'

                That completes Decade A.
                This may be a bit difficult for beginners but it becomes less involved as more Data is added.
                Experienced Users can complete the logging in less than 30 minutes.
                I can usually complete ALL logging and prepare my plays for the next drawing in less than an hour.
                I'll provide the Decades B, C and D data as quickly as time will allow.
                I still have a life?

                Thanks for your interest.
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                  logging data is a way of life for serious System Players.
                  Maintaining complete and accurate trend lines is paramount, which is usually assured
                  when data is recorded according with a plan.
                  Here is my plan for NYTake5/39
                  1. Obtain the latest winning combination.
                  2. Update the Game History page, and partial Alpha Signatures (F3, M3, L3) Inventory.
                  Decades
                  1. Update the Master Integer Sequence Chart (also known as Page 1)
                  2. Mark the winning integers in the last Pick File. (also known as Page 2)
                  3. Using the Master chart, enter the next Pick File.
                  4. Update the Value/Sums Chart (also known as Page 3)
                  Followers (Page 4)
                  1. Add latest Section winners in the Gap column and generate the Gap numbers.
                  2. Add the Gap numbers to the four Gap Follower lines.
                  3. Referring to Value/Sums Chart, add any new data to the four lines in the Value Follower chart.
                  4. Referring to the Value/Sums chart, add any new data to the 7 lines in the L2 Follower chart.
                  5. Referring to the Value/Sums chart, add any new data to the 49 Pairs in the L2 Sums Follower Chart.
                  A lot of important game history information is being sorted and organized for analysis purposes.
                  Be advised that there are no features where the integers are used to generate Roots, pairs, triads, VTRACs, odds, statistical charts, probabilities, odds and evens, highs and lows, and other data compiled with workouts based on algorithms, mathematical formulae or similar schemes.
                  Usage.
                  The first order of business is determining how many combinations are needed.
                  I usually select the three Alpha Signatures with highest inventory totals.
                  I choose two beginning with single digits and one with a Teen.
                  This is a 3$ per draw investment.
                  I sometimes play more combinations after cashing winning tickets.
                  The signatures tell the User how many integers are needed to create the Numerical Signatures.
                  Given:  ABCCD, ABBCD and BBCDD
                  I need to choose two integers from Decade A; five integers from Decade B, four integers
                  from Decade C and four integers from Decade D.
                  The individual integers chosen depends on the Users analysis of the Follower trend data.
                  I have personal methods, but there is no need to expand on them here.
                  Each User will have to use his/her experience and intellect to decide which integers have
                  best chance of being in the next winning combination.
                  It's an 'on-the-job' learning situation.
                  Playbook (Page 5)
                  I maintain a record of my plays and results.
                  I have spent 24$ so far.
                  I have one Free Play win.
                  Pretty sorry record but should improve as more data is added to the trend lines.
                  I post my choices on the LP Prediction page.
                  I've learned via 10+ years of lottery play that you can never have too much information.
                  FYI
                  I've decided not to provide data for Decades B, C and D.
                  The formats for all four Decades is exactly the same.
                  I'll answer any questions prospective users might have.
                  Wheeling
                  I believe using wheels requires much more information than Alpha Numeric Substitution.
                  I would have to have a couple of good wins to have a pot of cash to work with.
                  That's all!
                  Thanks for your interest.
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                    Fair question.
                    Does any of bobby623 substitution workouts ever win anything?
                    Here is copy of my most recent win.
                    It's for Pick 4.
                    The workout is slightly different than the one I use for jackpot games.
                    All you need is a comprehensive set  of tracking charts that produce rational trend lines, the ability to evaluate data and
                    recognize the best choices, and some good luck.
                    The winning D4 permutation is 9385.
                    Now have $100 for future plays!

                    TxDaily4

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                      An important advantage of substitution is using the Values to create a separate Follower
                      trend line.
                      This is possible because all of the trend lines stem from the Value line, which is a
                      substitute for the Section letters.
                      Here is the current Value/Sum lines for NYTake5, Decade A.
                      S-ACACCCDBCBCCCCDCCCCD
                      V-131222232333433334
                      2-X4446676555666776667
                      Columns will line up when data is logged on graph paper.
                      Reminder: Line 2 numerals are generated by adding the last two Values.
                      Thus, the last two values, 34, produce a 7 on the '2' line.
                      If you look closely, you will see some interesting trends in the '2' line.
                      EX: 667 has arrived three times.
                      What's Next?
                      What will follow '6667'?
                      My 'best guess' is that the next follower in the '2' line will be a '7'
                      What's the Next Section Letter:
                      If the next '2' line is a '7', the next V entry has to be a 3 (4+3 = 7).
                      If the next V entry is 3, the S entry has to be 'C'
                      This means the next Decade integer(s) could be those in the current 'C' section,
                      which are - 5,6,7.
                      LINE 3
                      A Line 3 Follower line is created by adding the last three numerals in the Value line.
                      Thus:
                      3 -xx577909978899000990
                      What's Next??
                      Analyzing the line shows 0997, 8990, 0990 -- ??
                      Or, 09, 00, 00, 09, 0??
                      My best guess is that the next numeral on Line 3 will be '0'
                      What's the next Section??
                      Referring to the V line ending '334'.
                      The next Line 3 numeral is '0', has to be '3'  (3+4+3 = 0)
                      This indicates the next Section could be 'C'
                      Note that this 'best guess' agrees with the 'best guess' using the '2'  Follower line.
                      Would be nice if the drawing machine agrees with the analysis, keeping in mind that
                      we are dealing with a dumb machine having no memory of past events.
                      Be nice to hear from anyone who is using this workout for their Pick 5/3X games.
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                        Lot of information to go over.

                        Looks like good stuff once you have a grasp on it!

                         

                        Thanks!

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                          If you are using this workout to track your 5/3X game, you have no doubt discovered that Decade C is a 'bitch!'
                          To improve my chances of making good guesses, I've added a '3' line, which was discussed in a previous post.
                          There are 12 Followers 2 through 12.
                          The most active lines are:
                          6 - 68375
                          8 - 06876
                          0 - 00081

                          (0=10, 1=11, 2-12)

                          The last L3 entry is '6'
                          What's Next?

                          I chose '4', but when I worked backwards to get a Value, it wouldn't fit (2+3+?+=4)
                          I then chose '6' (2+3+1 = 6).
                          Other choices are 7. 8 and 9.
                          This demonstrates that there are limits in each follower line.
                          My guesswork hasn't produced any significant wins, thus far.
                          But, the trend lines are getting longer.
                          A question.
                          Suppose a player only wants to play once a week.
                          Does he/she have to track every drawing??
                          I would adjust my data base to fit the situation.
                          For example, if Saturday was my play day, then I would only track Friday results.
                          This means less data, but it provides more current data. 
                          I realize this violates all the so-called rules suggesting a data base include all draws.
                          But, what has Monday or any other day other than Friday got to do with Saturday?
                          It's a 'to each his own' situation.
                          Thanks for your interest.

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                            Posted: October 8, 2016, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

                            Alpha Numeric Substitution - choosing integers according to an Alpha Signature - hasn't been very effective.
                            I've had a few Free Play wins, but nothing significant.
                            When I used ANS for Texas 5/37, my guesswork achieved several 4/5 wins.
                            The only 5/5 I had was not played.
                            I was preparing for Christmas in San Antonio and skipped the drawing!
                            I've had more success with abbreviated wheeling.
                            I think I've got enough data to begin that process for Take5.
                            There are a couple analytical choices.
                            1. Use the Master Integer Sequences and choose 2 or 3 integers from each Decade.
                            2. Star Charts.
                            Effective today, I'm going to use the Star Charts, Follower Matrices, Consolidated Integer Sequences with associated Gap and Sum trend lines.
                            I'm going to wheel 8 integers into 3 combinations.
                            I've posted my choices in the Predictions page for Take5.
                            I could have wheeled 12 integers, 3 from each Decade, into 3 sets, but chose not to go that way.
                            As I indicated previously, trying to describe this analytical method with words only is too difficult.
                            Instead, I'm just going to post my choices and see where it goes.
                            Thanks for your interest.

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                              Posted: October 15, 2016, 1:16 pm - IP Logged
                              I'll say it again!
                              If you want to be a successful 'systems player,' you need to resist the temptation to assign 'life' where none exists.
                              When you start believing, as many people do, that the ping pong balls in a lottery drawing machine are 'self aware' and 'know things,' you aren't going to be happy with your win/loss ratio.
                              Yes, each ball has a number but I defy anyone to provide proof that some kind of mathematics determines in advance which balls will be in the next winning permutation/combination.
                              The best approach to 'guessing' which balls will exit the machine is having an accurate and complete set of tracking logs that generate useful trend information.
                              Any kind of 'analysis' of game history will clearly show that Lottery games are 'dynamic' and 'on the move' all the time. If this were not true, the same sets of winning integers would be showing up rather frequently and the game would not survive.
                              I initiated this thread by presenting the details of trend charts that I believe will help a systems players in New York, and other Pick 5/3X states, identify integers that 'could' be winners in the next official drawing.
                              The best I've been able to do using both methods that I described is several Free Plays.
                              Summary
                              The first method where Section winners were tracked presented a couple of problems.
                              1. What to do about drawings where there were no Decade hits.
                              2. What to do about multiple hits within a Section.
                              My choice was to ignore the no Decade hits.
                              A review of the Numerical Structures on the Game History chart shows that less than four Decades happens fairly often.
                              I'm sure that some math genius can come up with odds, probability and other factors to create an additional trend line, but so what.
                              There is plenty of work to do without adding something where no useful trends will show up over the short term.
                              As for multiple hits within a Section.
                              I decided to ignore them.
                              We are tracking Sections, whether there be one, two or three integer hits.
                              The math genius would recommend tracking charts for tracking hits within a Section, but what's the point?
                              In the final analysis, it's up to the user of any workout to decide how to handle the 'problems' that always seem to surface.
                              It's a 'to each his own' situation, and all Users must find personal solutions.
                              Just make sure they are rational.
                              Dealing with hits and misses is part of lottery gaming.
                              Why get bogged down with 'nice to know but so what' stuff?
                              There are no mathematical solutions for any lottery game.
                              Further:
                              I switched to the 'wheeling' method where I set up some appropriate tracking charts that helped me select three integers from each Decade.
                              I then wheeled the 12 integers into 3 Alpha Signatures.
                              I later decided to play 4 Signatures and made individual personal integer assignments based on the Star Chart and supporting tracking media.
                              I've posted my choices for the 1015 Take5 drawing, which will be my last.
                              I've decided to discontinue my work with this game, and move on to a State having a computerized Pick 5/39 game (Missouri).
                              I hope I've helped a few New Yorkers, and players in other states with Pick 5/3X games, establish a better win/loss record.
                              Thanks for your interest!