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NOcubaNoPROBLEM

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Oct 10, 2021, 11:41 am

Would you agree to this new terms if each lottery systems in the country upgrade so that people bet their money with confidence the system is no longer rigged? Need your opinion.

1. All lottery games should be made of transparent materials like crystal, glass, plastic, flexible materials with transparency to see through ( no colors allowed but only the numbers )

2. Each lottery system game should have public audience access to at least 12 yards away from public when game is set to play.

Binoculars and recording devices should be allowed.

3. Each ball should be weighted 30 minutes before each game start.

4. A room for keeping the game should be made of transparent glass and under 24/7 surveillance and access to public surveillance at least 50 yards away.

5. The game set should be kept locked in same room all the time under surveillance 24hrs/7days a week.
Stat$talker

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Oct 10, 2021, 1:07 pm

Quote: Originally posted by NOcubaNoPROBLEM on Oct 10, 2021
Would you agree to this new terms if each lottery systems in the country upgrade so that people bet their money with confidence the system is no longer rigged? Need your opinion.

1. All lottery games should be made of transparent materials like crystal, glass, plastic, flexible materials with transparency to see through ( no colors allowed but only the numbers )

2. Each lottery system game should have public audience access to at least 12 yards away from public when game is set to play.

Binoculars and recording devices should be allowed.

3. Each ball should be weighted 30 minutes before each game start.

4. A room for keeping the game should be made of transparent glass and under 24/7 surveillance and access to public surveillance at least 50 yards away.

5. The game set should be kept locked in same room all the time under surveillance 24hrs/7days a week.

..Me, ..Myself & ..So that'z 3 Votes in favor..!!

It remains to be seen whether or not LOs monitoring will take such good advice to heed.. cause they're steadfast in their philosophy......

"We can screw YOU, but you can't screw US"

...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!
rcbbuckeye

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Oct 10, 2021, 1:19 pm

Quote: Originally posted by NOcubaNoPROBLEM on Oct 10, 2021
Would you agree to this new terms if each lottery systems in the country upgrade so that people bet their money with confidence the system is no longer rigged? Need your opinion.

1. All lottery games should be made of transparent materials like crystal, glass, plastic, flexible materials with transparency to see through ( no colors allowed but only the numbers )

2. Each lottery system game should have public audience access to at least 12 yards away from public when game is set to play.

Binoculars and recording devices should be allowed.

3. Each ball should be weighted 30 minutes before each game start.

4. A room for keeping the game should be made of transparent glass and under 24/7 surveillance and access to public surveillance at least 50 yards away.

5. The game set should be kept locked in same room all the time under surveillance 24hrs/7days a week.

Hmmm.

You live in Austin. I volunteer you to go to the studio and watch the equipment 24/7.

Frankly, Texas lottery draws are quite secure, regardless of conspiracies on a lottery message board. If you have true suspicions, that you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, take it to court. Otherwise you're just making unfounded accusations.

Any draw that was rigged in the past has been by someone for personal gain, not by a lottery official trying to cheat the buying public.

Just saying....

Good luck in your endeavor.

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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Stat$talker

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Oct 10, 2021, 1:23 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 10, 2021
Hmmm.

You live in Austin. I volunteer you to go to the studio and watch the equipment 24/7.

Frankly, Texas lottery draws are quite secure, regardless of conspiracies on a lottery message board. If you have true suspicions, that you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, take it to court. Otherwise you're just making unfounded accusations.

Any draw that was rigged in the past has been by someone for personal gain, not by a lottery official trying to cheat the buying public.

Just saying....

Good luck in your endeavor.

still doin everythang possible ta protect yo investmentz huh?

How much ya got in dere?.. coomeoon .. git on da level.. Tell us..

...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!
rcbbuckeye

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Oct 10, 2021, 1:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stat$talker on Oct 10, 2021
still doin everythang possible ta protect yo investmentz huh?

How much ya got in dere?.. coomeoon .. git on da level.. Tell us..

Only investments I have are the one's my wife had when she died.

Ya dork.

You need to invest in common sense, instead of conspiracies.

In your own words..."git gooone".

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
Stat$talker

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Oct 10, 2021, 1:36 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 10, 2021
Only investments I have are the one's my wife had when she died.

Ya dork.

You need to invest in common sense, instead of conspiracies.

In your own words..."git gooone".

"You need to invest in common sense, instead of conspiracies."

I'm already WEALTHY in THAT respect.. az that'z why I'm able to recognize "conspiracies", that obviously goez ova YO head..!!

Git cha OWN sayinz..dera ain't but 1 STAT$TALKER, BoZo..

...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!
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Oct 10, 2021, 2:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by NOcubaNoPROBLEM on Oct 10, 2021
Would you agree to this new terms if each lottery systems in the country upgrade so that people bet their money with confidence the system is no longer rigged? Need your opinion.

1. All lottery games should be made of transparent materials like crystal, glass, plastic, flexible materials with transparency to see through ( no colors allowed but only the numbers )

2. Each lottery system game should have public audience access to at least 12 yards away from public when game is set to play.

Binoculars and recording devices should be allowed.

3. Each ball should be weighted 30 minutes before each game start.

4. A room for keeping the game should be made of transparent glass and under 24/7 surveillance and access to public surveillance at least 50 yards away.

5. The game set should be kept locked in same room all the time under surveillance 24hrs/7days a week.

Keeping mechanical drawings secure is straightforward, even if laborious. Keeping PRNG drawings secure and transparent takes more creativity, and is more relevant as more and more lotteries throw out their mechanical drawing systems in favor of cheaper computer systems. I had this discussion with someone knowledgeable about tech stuff. They suggested that to conduct computerized drawings transparently, the lottery should have witnesses see the programming running on a large computer monitor. On the screen you should be able to see the lines of code that generate the random numbers (in an open language like C, Java, Powershell, whatever) and you should be able to see the compiler running and outputting the code when a lottery official clicks the "run" button. No bad code hidden in a proprietary black box setup.
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Oct 10, 2021, 3:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stat$talker on Oct 10, 2021
"You need to invest in common sense, instead of conspiracies."

I'm already WEALTHY in THAT respect.. az that'z why I'm able to recognize "conspiracies", that obviously goez ova YO head..!!

Git cha OWN sayinz..dera ain't but 1 STAT$TALKER, BoZo..

Just feeding you back what you feed me and others.

GIT GOOONE

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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Oct 10, 2021, 4:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by NOcubaNoPROBLEM on Oct 10, 2021
Would you agree to this new terms if each lottery systems in the country upgrade so that people bet their money with confidence the system is no longer rigged? Need your opinion.

1. All lottery games should be made of transparent materials like crystal, glass, plastic, flexible materials with transparency to see through ( no colors allowed but only the numbers )

2. Each lottery system game should have public audience access to at least 12 yards away from public when game is set to play.

Binoculars and recording devices should be allowed.

3. Each ball should be weighted 30 minutes before each game start.

4. A room for keeping the game should be made of transparent glass and under 24/7 surveillance and access to public surveillance at least 50 yards away.

5. The game set should be kept locked in same room all the time under surveillance 24hrs/7days a week.

All good suggestions. I think observers from the general public should be allowed to take cell phone videos of the drawing. If the draw procedures are secure, what is there to hide?

One issue is that balls made of transparent materials will more readily show scratches from wear and tear. Maybe coat them in a lubricant?
cottoneyedjoe

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Oct 10, 2021, 4:12 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Oct 10, 2021
Keeping mechanical drawings secure is straightforward, even if laborious. Keeping PRNG drawings secure and transparent takes more creativity, and is more relevant as more and more lotteries throw out their mechanical drawing systems in favor of cheaper computer systems. I had this discussion with someone knowledgeable about tech stuff. They suggested that to conduct computerized drawings transparently, the lottery should have witnesses see the programming running on a large computer monitor. On the screen you should be able to see the lines of code that generate the random numbers (in an open language like C, Java, Powershell, whatever) and you should be able to see the compiler running and outputting the code when a lottery official clicks the "run" button. No bad code hidden in a proprietary black box setup.

Nothing to disagree with here, from a player perspective. Of course the lottery would say that the average observer can't understand computer code enough to tell if it has errors. Maybe, maybe not. Either way, if observers take pictures and post them on Reddit or Twitter, geeks from all over the world would point out any bugs in the code.
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Oct 10, 2021, 4:19 pm

Somebody proposed to handle those pingpong balls with gloves. ... and they did it.
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Oct 10, 2021, 6:01 pm

You can go on you tube and watch the entire security process for the drawings. There used to be several states, I don't know how many there are now.
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Oct 10, 2021, 6:20 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Oct 10, 2021
Keeping mechanical drawings secure is straightforward, even if laborious. Keeping PRNG drawings secure and transparent takes more creativity, and is more relevant as more and more lotteries throw out their mechanical drawing systems in favor of cheaper computer systems. I had this discussion with someone knowledgeable about tech stuff. They suggested that to conduct computerized drawings transparently, the lottery should have witnesses see the programming running on a large computer monitor. On the screen you should be able to see the lines of code that generate the random numbers (in an open language like C, Java, Powershell, whatever) and you should be able to see the compiler running and outputting the code when a lottery official clicks the "run" button. No bad code hidden in a proprietary black box setup.

Unfortunately even those measures cannot protect computerized drawings.

Whatever is shown on the screen — even if you're showing the computer code that is supposedly running — is not what is happening inside the computer. A computer runs machine language, which is just a bunch of numbers. It is the native language of the CPU in the computer. (Sometimes people refer to it as Assembly Language, but Assembly is the numbers translated into psuedo words, and not the actual thing that is executing.) If you see anything other than thousands of numbers, you're not seeing what the computer is actually doing.

Also, seeing something on the screen does not mean that is what is executing. You can easily run one thing and show something different on the screen.

And if you think compiling on the fly will help, then all you have to do is rig the compiler.

Bottom line is there is ZERO chance of having complete confidence that computerized drawings are 100% secure. ZERO CHANCE.

With ball drawings, you can actually approach 100% secure drawings, because a human being can weigh, measure, record, and observe the actual drawing taking place.

Check the State Lottery Report Card
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Oct 10, 2021, 6:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 10, 2021
Just feeding you back what you feed me and others.

GIT GOOONE

Yeaah, but Y'all be askin for it.. salivatin fa my unique rebuttalz ..and how do expect ta be oRiGiNaL like Ole Stat$, if ya copy MY style? Git cha own., stay outta my lane..

If ya really wanna copy sumin, then copy dat Probability Math.!!

Theeenn, you'll impress utherz..!! ..naah , enuf time wastid on YOU, BoZo.. back ta Stalkin..

...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!
rcbbuckeye

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Oct 11, 2021, 4:23 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stat$talker on Oct 10, 2021
Yeaah, but Y'all be askin for it.. salivatin fa my unique rebuttalz ..and how do expect ta be oRiGiNaL like Ole Stat$, if ya copy MY style? Git cha own., stay outta my lane..

If ya really wanna copy sumin, then copy dat Probability Math.!!

Theeenn, you'll impress utherz..!! ..naah , enuf time wastid on YOU, BoZo.. back ta Stalkin..

Stalkin???

Oh yeah, stalkin poop.

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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