A computer doesn't read leading zeros so 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 is 0.
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is 1.
Anytime you see a color code no matter if they call it decades, it is the same as a front digit pattern.
09, 19, 28, 29, 39, 49 Decades= Front digit patterns
Yeah, I should have explained, since you are 158.3% crazy. But cantankerous old fart brains and long time LP members understood.
You'll find it a lot. There will be different terms for things you already know as something else. Doesn't change what it is, or its function.
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You made your "triaxial trendbending deflection numerical generation whatchamacallitas" sounds so complicated .
They have similar in Optimizer. But they called it Groups. Instead of showing as 12234, theirs is 11211. 1 number in Group 1, 1 in Group 2 and 2 numbers in Group 3 etc.
To be honest, I prefer their way of computing, because theirs is always showing as 5 digits. But yours can be 1 to 6.
But we don't even have to know all their Grouping patterns anyway. They made it super simple. If a combination Optimizer generated is in the top 10 Grouping, it will show a red *. If they are in the top 35, it shows a black *. No one needs to know what grouping patterns look like. Just a simple indicator. Great for beginners who doesn't know it all.
Why 10 and 35 groups? That is for the coverage. Top 10 groups will cover 20% of all draws while top 35 will cover 50% of all draws! I think this is great strategy.
They also got a similar indicator for the Geometry of Chance patterns too. To me, that's a pretty smart system, don't you think?
But of course, none of these can compare with your secret system .
Oh, how long does it take you to check a combination with all the pattern checking, grouping checking and everything else that go with it? If you can beat Optimizer's 1 second record, I am willing to try yours.
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Quote: Originally posted by JuliaM on Jan 16, 2022
But what determines the "quality" of these 10 low odds and 11 high even numbers to choose? You can't just choose any random numbers in these groups. That doesn't make sense.
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Quote: Originally posted by JuliaM on Jan 19, 2022
You made your "triaxial trendbending deflection numerical generation whatchamacallitas" sounds so complicated .
They have similar in Optimizer. But they called it Groups. Instead of showing as 12234, theirs is 11211. 1 number in Group 1, 1 in Group 2 and 2 numbers in Group 3 etc.
To be honest, I prefer their way of computing, because theirs is always showing as 5 digits. But yours can be 1 to 6.
But we don't even have to know all their Grouping patterns anyway. They made it super simple. If a combination Optimizer generated is in the top 10 Grouping, it will show a red *. If they are in the top 35, it shows a black *. No one needs to know what grouping patterns look like. Just a simple indicator. Great for beginners who doesn't know it all.
Why 10 and 35 groups? That is for the coverage. Top 10 groups will cover 20% of all draws while top 35 will cover 50% of all draws! I think this is great strategy.
They also got a similar indicator for the Geometry of Chance patterns too. To me, that's a pretty smart system, don't you think?
But of course, none of these can compare with your secret system .
Oh, how long does it take you to check a combination with all the pattern checking, grouping checking and everything else that go with it? If you can beat Optimizer's 1 second record, I am willing to try yours.
It's not the point how any system/group selects its numbers and what it statistically covers. The point is how many numbers of any group match (hit) the actual winners in any given period of time - the hit ratio. You cannot win more than you hit so show me this number and we will talk about the value of the system/group. Otherwise it's a useless speculation.
You are constantly talking about selection methodologies. Show me how effective they are with real numbers - that's all that matters. They call this backtesting.
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Quote: Originally posted by JuliaM on Jan 18, 2022
It seems that you didn't bother to read the page on their site. They clearly indicated that they choose numbers with 5 levels of "prediction" i.e. 5 lists (not the usual 1 list elsewhere). They even show you how it is done with real life examples. In one example they showed their engine picked 22 numbers for the Australia's TattsLotto. I guess you missed that.
All the sites that offer prediction never show you how they do their "predictions". For all I know they could just be random numbers. Optimizer is the only one that I know that show you how. They are based on probability of the most likely to occur using hits and skips.
I don't know why people here make comments on something that they have never used? At least some have used GH or RL system and they would know how good or bad they are. They can draw their own conclusion on them. That is fair. I have used different ones including Optimizer, so I can comment on them. But for someone who have never used a system and trying to comment on it, that is sketchy at best. The only way that you are going to verify if it is a fantasy or not, is for you to try it yourself. At least to me, it is the most logical one that I have ever used. However, I am open minded and always willing to try anything that works.
All the sites that offer prediction never show you how they do their "predictions". For all I know they could just be random numbers. Optimizer is the only one that I know that show you how. They are based on probability of the most likely to occur using hits and skips.
I'm not interested in the ways they generate their predictions. They can see that secret. I'm only interested what these selections produce - how many hits over a period of time. This will clearly tell me if a selection method can deliver winners.
However, I am open minded and always willing to try anything that works.
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Quote: Originally posted by JuliaM on Jan 18, 2022
Don't know what you mean "They aren't for you"?
What am I supposed to do something? There are many people who share their experiences with Gail or Richard's programs, does that mean they are pumping their sites too? Even though it was not my intention in the first place when I first post the thread, when people asked, I simply shared my experience with Optimizer, that's it. It is what it is. There is nothing to pump or put down. I don't want to repeat for the 100th time why I posted the thread in the first place.
All I am saying is, don't judge anything unless you have used it. If someone never use Excel before and makes a comment about it being simply a giant calculator, would that be a fair comment? The answer is no.
I know many of the people here all have their own tools or spreadsheets. But how many of you are sharing? I couldn't find any. Maybe the Optimizer author was like you guys, but he was willing to share. But as anyone can understanding, running a website requires money to maintain. He is not charging $20 a month like some of the sites that I have seen or hundreds of dollar for a year. His fees are reasonable. It's even cheaper than LP's annual fee.
Not everyone has to agree. It may not suit everyone. That's a fact. If it suits you, use it. If it doesn't, don't use it. People can only do review on things they've bought. No one does review based on perception of a product. Reviews from a non-user cannot be trusted. Unfortunately, there are plenty of them here.
All I am saying is, don't judge anything unless you have used it.
There are 2 main lottery playing methodologies: P&P (Play & Pray) and T&P (Test & Play). Optimizer does not provide testing capability therefore belongs to P&P. And as such it is simply not usable no matter how fancy are its predictions. Unless, of course, your goal is to mindlessly throw money away. For that, you don't need Optimizer, either.
Once again, I don't care how systems generate their prediction, you don't have to show me and I'm not going to ask. There are gazillions of different methods. Show me their prediction results (hits) so we can see if they can deliver. Play only if they demonstrate that they can. T&P.
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Quote: Originally posted by JuliaM on Jan 19, 2022
You made your "triaxial trendbending deflection numerical generation whatchamacallitas" sounds so complicated .
They have similar in Optimizer. But they called it Groups. Instead of showing as 12234, theirs is 11211. 1 number in Group 1, 1 in Group 2 and 2 numbers in Group 3 etc.
To be honest, I prefer their way of computing, because theirs is always showing as 5 digits. But yours can be 1 to 6.
But we don't even have to know all their Grouping patterns anyway. They made it super simple. If a combination Optimizer generated is in the top 10 Grouping, it will show a red *. If they are in the top 35, it shows a black *. No one needs to know what grouping patterns look like. Just a simple indicator. Great for beginners who doesn't know it all.
Why 10 and 35 groups? That is for the coverage. Top 10 groups will cover 20% of all draws while top 35 will cover 50% of all draws! I think this is great strategy.
They also got a similar indicator for the Geometry of Chance patterns too. To me, that's a pretty smart system, don't you think?
But of course, none of these can compare with your secret system .
Oh, how long does it take you to check a combination with all the pattern checking, grouping checking and everything else that go with it? If you can beat Optimizer's 1 second record, I am willing to try yours.
You asked a question. I answered your question. I like what I do. I do it for free.
I don't spend 16 pages promoting or begging others to go sign up or spend money. And I like that I like what I do too.
If I'm dying and only have one second of my life to choose numbers, I'll buy a QP. Otherwise I see no need for speed if a drawing is 10:12PM Thursday night and its only Wednesday. Do you even understand the factors involved in computer speed? Read up on it.
You know, this crap is getting old when all you have to say is, "I prefer Optimizer." Okay, we get it......after 16 pages (and saying it in every post)....its pretty clear you prefer some trash site that takes your money. Your money, your choice. Doesn't make my list of top 20 quadrillion and 2 concerns. But clearly this isn't the Optimizer Forum. I don't care about that site. I don't care how they choose numbers. I don't care if they take your money. And as I've said over and over, if you like it, you would be over there. Or maybe start your own Optimizer Forum.
No, I prefer people who can talk about the lottery with open minds, experience, and an understanding of numbers and how math works.
That's what LP is about. That's why I'm here.
G
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Quote: Originally posted by Player649 on Jan 19, 2022
All I am saying is, don't judge anything unless you have used it.
There are 2 main lottery playing methodologies: P&P (Play & Pray) and T&P (Test & Play). Optimizer does not provide testing capability therefore belongs to P&P. And as such it is simply not usable no matter how fancy are its predictions. Unless, of course, your goal is to mindlessly throw money away. For that, you don't need Optimizer, either.
Once again, I don't care how systems generate their prediction, you don't have to show me and I'm not going to ask. There are gazillions of different methods. Show me their prediction results (hits) so we can see if they can deliver. Play only if they demonstrate that they can. T&P.
Please at least read my previous replies. OK, maybe it got buried in the messages.
Not sure who asked. I have already said that you can find all that stuff on their website. It shows the live stats of how their prediction lists fair (hits) in the last 100 draws. As a member I can see them on my screen how many numbers each prediction list caught for each draw. They are definitely not P&P. Why would I spend money on a site if it is P&P? I can get that for free. There is nothing to back test on Optimizer. It tells you right on the screen in real time.
Since I can't post URL, if you go to their web site, click on the second orange button that says "Lottery Prediction". That page will tell you how they do it. At the bottom of that page, there is a section call "Lottery Prediction Levels". Near the bottom there is a link "LIVE stats page". That is where it will show you how they perform.
What I personally find extremely useful is on their individual lottery section where they show how many numbers they caught for each draw by each list historically. You can almost figure out which of the 5 lists is about to catch all 6 numbers. That is because the "predictions" are statistically based. There is always a certain percentage of how many numbers it is going to catch for each list. That to me is worth everything. By this, I can decide which prediction list to use and ask Optimizer to use that list to get the optimal combinations for me.
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JuliaM said: "Oh, how long does it take you to check a combination with all the pattern checking, grouping checking and everything else that go with it? If you can beat Optimizer's 1 second record, I am willing to try yours. "
Wow, your computer is faster than my 5 year old laptop... It took 3 seconds to do your Balanced/Filtered Wheel with: a (4 8 11 14 15 20 26 32 34 38 43 45) Combinations in this Full Wheel are: 924 and Combinations in this Balanced/Filtered Wheel are: 38... It might go faster if I didn't print every step to the display as it runs... Guess I will have to try this on my i7 de-lid with a pair of Nvidia gfx cards to do vector and tensor math... Next your going to throw down how your car goes faster then mine... Pfft... Good luck!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by Player649 on Jan 19, 2022
All I am saying is, don't judge anything unless you have used it.
There are 2 main lottery playing methodologies: P&P (Play & Pray) and T&P (Test & Play). Optimizer does not provide testing capability therefore belongs to P&P. And as such it is simply not usable no matter how fancy are its predictions. Unless, of course, your goal is to mindlessly throw money away. For that, you don't need Optimizer, either.
Once again, I don't care how systems generate their prediction, you don't have to show me and I'm not going to ask. There are gazillions of different methods. Show me their prediction results (hits) so we can see if they can deliver. Play only if they demonstrate that they can. T&P.
Oh, great! Julia will spend the next 16 pages writing the, "Optimizer's Operations Manual."
Gag me with a spoon!
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Jan 19, 2022
You asked a question. I answered your question. I like what I do. I do it for free.
I don't spend 16 pages promoting or begging others to go sign up or spend money. And I like that I like what I do too.
If I'm dying and only have one second of my life to choose numbers, I'll buy a QP. Otherwise I see no need for speed if a drawing is 10:12PM Thursday night and its only Wednesday. Do you even understand the factors involved in computer speed? Read up on it.
You know, this crap is getting old when all you have to say is, "I prefer Optimizer." Okay, we get it......after 16 pages (and saying it in every post)....its pretty clear you prefer some trash site that takes your money. Your money, your choice. Doesn't make my list of top 20 quadrillion and 2 concerns. But clearly this isn't the Optimizer Forum. I don't care about that site. I don't care how they choose numbers. I don't care if they take your money. And as I've said over and over, if you like it, you would be over there. Or maybe start your own Optimizer Forum.
No, I prefer people who can talk about the lottery with open minds, experience, and an understanding of numbers and how math works.
That's what LP is about. That's why I'm here.
G
"...I prefer people who can talk about the lottery with open minds, experience,..."
I almost die laughing....
You, Mr. G is the most closed mind person I have seen here so far. For the millionth time, in case you still haven't heard yet, I am here to talk to open minded, experienced lottery veterans and those understand number and math. That is why I am here.
Unfortunately I kept getting responses from those who are exactly the opposite; not open minded and unwilling to share. And of course, those who like bullying new ones.
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Quote: Originally posted by JuliaM on Jan 19, 2022
"...I prefer people who can talk about the lottery with open minds, experience,..."
I almost die laughing....
You, Mr. G is the most closed mind person I have seen here so far. For the millionth time, in case you still haven't heard yet, I am here to talk to open minded, experienced lottery veterans and those understand number and math. That is why I am here.
Unfortunately I kept getting responses from those who are exactly the opposite; not open minded and unwilling to share. And of course, those who like bullying new ones.
Every response is, "I prefer Optimizer." Go read your posts.Is there one post where you don't mention you prefer Optimizer?
And now complaining no one will offer you anything....wonder why? Yeah, they don't come no crazier!
Do something beside "prefer Optimizer." Take one second of your life to run?
That's great! You can spend the other 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds to talk about it....
What would you do with another method?
What good would it be?
You "prefer Optimizer."
Everybody had that figured that out on page 1.
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