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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 5, 2022
It's useless to try to explain it until you show you have broken whatever game you play down into the sets.
Second, we aren't talking NFL, or parlay cards where there are too many variable (injuries, turnovers, bad games) to account for.
Numbers are set in writing. Nothing changes from the draw 1 to draw 999999. Everything in the set stays the same. No shuffling of the deck, no spin on the marble. The matrix does not change one iota.
Notice carefully in my disagreement: if you could get "a thousand people playing logically and systematically" (as a unit). (Agreed, that's a large group but when you acknowledge the number of pools who have won major money it makes sense).
I've said in the past, I don't believe the lottery can be predicted on any given night, but it can be won over a series of draws.
Since the only thing you have to rely on is the Fundamental Formula of Gambling, let me assist with some statistics that prove my point.Let's just grab the front digit patterns for the TX4/35 (since I'm looking at it):
FRONT
Hit
Frequency
0123
5400
9.7
0112
4050
12.9
0122
4050
12.9
0012
3600
14.5
These are the top four. They have the MOST hits in the entire matrix, thus they hit the most often. Without any in depth analysis, no filtering, with nothing but basic common sense: If you, (or a group) covered each of the combinations in any one of those sets, you could expect to win within 20 draws. It's not rocket science.
It's basically the same principle the MIT students used (they had a rolldown to help them). Basically the same as buying all the combinations in the matrix without buying all the combinations in the matrix (like the Australians did).
So its true. 1000 lottery players playing $5 a draw logically and systematically would produce a winner. The reason it don't happen is greed. Nobody wants to see somebody else win. People are not like bees or ants, who don't care who pollinated the most flowers, or carried the largest leaf. People want to win for themselves.
This idea works the same for any straight ball game (games without a bonus ball). TX435 does have a bonus so I'd use something different.
If you don't understand that, I can't help you. But whatever you choose to believe won't affect what the numbers say is true. No offense. I have broken the games down and seen statistical advantages you won't find in cards, dice, roulette, or the NFL.
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"It's useless to try to explain it"
Especially when it appears you're trying to explain the difference in the taste of oranges and onions. Don't recall you mentioning a "guaranteed win" or "logically pick jackpots" but it sure looks like someone is trying to pretend you did. Don't recall you saying someone could hit a Keno 15-spot or even mentioning the game of Keno either.
And when someone says "Odds don't change but probabilities can", pretty much makes any explanation useless.
"So its true. 1000 lottery players playing $5 a draw logically and systematically would produce a winner."
Games like Texas All or Nothing where the majority of prizes are returning the $2 ticket price are another example producing lots of winning tickets if breaking even is called "winning". Overtime players will correctly pick about 22.22% of their wagers and collect about 48% their bets. Might be true the only way to show a profit in that game is to hit the jackpot and quit.
"If you don't understand that"
Not many understand a conditional bet can be based on anything and that's exactly why people wheel several numbers not only hoping five of those numbers will drawn but all five will be on the same line.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 7, 2022
"It's useless to try to explain it"
Especially when it appears you're trying to explain the difference in the taste of oranges and onions. Don't recall you mentioning a "guaranteed win" or "logically pick jackpots" but it sure looks like someone is trying to pretend you did. Don't recall you saying someone could hit a Keno 15-spot or even mentioning the game of Keno either.
And when someone says "Odds don't change but probabilities can", pretty much makes any explanation useless.
"So its true. 1000 lottery players playing $5 a draw logically and systematically would produce a winner."
Games like Texas All or Nothing where the majority of prizes are returning the $2 ticket price are another example producing lots of winning tickets if breaking even is called "winning". Overtime players will correctly pick about 22.22% of their wagers and collect about 48% their bets. Might be true the only way to show a profit in that game is to hit the jackpot and quit.
"If you don't understand that"
Not many understand a conditional bet can be based on anything and that's exactly why people wheel several numbers not only hoping five of those numbers will drawn but all five will be on the same line.
They do understand what a Red Herring is.
I appreciate the comments Stack. People who haven't rolled up their sleeves and dug can't understand what people who have see.
I'm older now. Mellowed to the point I'm not going to argue every nuance of every game. Everybody has an opinion and, right or wrong, they are entitled to it.
No longer the fool I once was who did charts for anyone. I know from experience most of those turn out the be a fool's errand since without a way to relate all that information to the game itself, it's just a bunch of numbers. And maybe the younger players can keep it all straight, but I can't recall the totals of all the E/O and H/L sets much less the patterns for every E/O set. Flipping through charts for all the necessary possible stuff to make decisions ain't what its cracked up to be. Sums and patterns is hunt and peck, makes my brain hurt.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 7, 2022
I appreciate the comments Stack. People who haven't rolled up their sleeves and dug can't understand what people who have see.
I'm older now. Mellowed to the point I'm not going to argue every nuance of every game. Everybody has an opinion and, right or wrong, they are entitled to it.
No longer the fool I once was who did charts for anyone. I know from experience most of those turn out the be a fool's errand since without a way to relate all that information to the game itself, it's just a bunch of numbers. And maybe the younger players can keep it all straight, but I can't recall the totals of all the E/O and H/L sets much less the patterns for every E/O set. Flipping through charts for all the necessary possible stuff to make decisions ain't what its cracked up to be. Sums and patterns is hunt and peck, makes my brain hurt.
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In all forms of gambling players look for any edge they can find. Some made millions by card counting and most of us heard about the Australian syndicate buying a Virginia Lotto jackpot and Jerry and Marge Selbee profiting from a jackpot roll down in Michigan and Massachusetts. For every gambling system there are probably 10 stock market systems.
There are eight different ways to combine three E/O digits each with 125 combos of and the same with H/L. Players can bet $125 to win $375 but not much wiggle room if the first bet loses. Looking for a trend, pattern, or edge to get a 3 to 1 payoff betting on a 8 to `1 chance "makes my brain hurt" too.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 7, 2022
In all forms of gambling players look for any edge they can find. Some made millions by card counting and most of us heard about the Australian syndicate buying a Virginia Lotto jackpot and Jerry and Marge Selbee profiting from a jackpot roll down in Michigan and Massachusetts. For every gambling system there are probably 10 stock market systems.
There are eight different ways to combine three E/O digits each with 125 combos of and the same with H/L. Players can bet $125 to win $375 but not much wiggle room if the first bet loses. Looking for a trend, pattern, or edge to get a 3 to 1 payoff betting on a 8 to `1 chance "makes my brain hurt" too.
LOL! Forgot it was those MIT people doing the card counting too. Thanks!
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All the Australians and MIT was groups did was pit an end to group play and team play. This also happened when Nevada casinos put in Mega Bucks
progressive slot machines. At first it was a little odd to see the jackpots progress when there was no one in the casino playing those slots but hey were all set up so that if anyone anywhere in the state played one of those machines the jackpot went up.
Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.
There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 9, 2022
All the Australians and MIT was groups did was pit an end to group play and team play. This also happened when Nevada casinos put in Mega Bucks
progressive slot machines. At first it was a little odd to see the jackpots progress when there was no one in the casino playing those slots but hey were all set up so that if anyone anywhere in the state played one of those machines the jackpot went up.
I agree with you CT. MIT and the Australians exposed and exploited holes in the game. And they were able to cover, or find the backers to cover, their play.
I'll even go out on a limb and say that's at least one reason we're seeing more games with the kicker, bonus, mega-balls; those payday ball. The more we catch up to the games, the more they change to stay ahead.
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