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Player649

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Mar 25, 2025, 1:26 am

Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Mar 22, 2025
True. I've done that; breaking the draws into 1000, 500, 250, and 100s. Guess it depends on your expectations as nothing ever jumped out at me. Most often by time you see something in the draw the game has moved on.

About the same time someone posted about a site that used a rating system which interested me. Rating systems have always been an undercurrent and whispers here. So I used what info they posted filled with my thoughts and ideas to emulate it.

Wasn't perfect. So from time to time I drag it out and add, change, and remove trying to make it better.

Seems to me no matter what system you use there is a certain acceptable loss built in.

Good luck!

someone posted about a site that used a rating system

I use rating for selecting systems for playing. It's based on system performance in short term (10 & 5 latest draws).

I always play groups of numbers larger than 1 ticket (currently 24). Each group, no matter what it's size, has an average (expected) hit rate. For a system to be selected for playing it must have hit above average in the last 10 & 5 draws. Among 32 systems that I monitor only about 8 - 10 will qualify at any given time.

Seems to me no matter what system you use there is a certain acceptable loss built in.

Even best system will fail at one time or another, often very unexpectedly. Part of playing lottery. But something can be done about it. They call it "risk spread". Don't bet on 1 system only. Use several at the same time. I use 5. The most recent example (from the last Saturday): 4 systems failed, 2 completely, the 5th scored well and gave me 2 winners (in 6 tickets). So the risk of failure is built into the system and the risk spread saved my a$$ twice this month already.

This is not a description of paper & pen methodology. I play this stuff for real. And I don't play cheap so I have to maximize winning chances while minimizing failure effects.
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Mar 25, 2025, 8:21 am

Quote: Originally posted by Player649 on Mar 25, 2025
someone posted about a site that used a rating system

I use rating for selecting systems for playing. It's based on system performance in short term (10 & 5 latest draws).

I always play groups of numbers larger than 1 ticket (currently 24). Each group, no matter what it's size, has an average (expected) hit rate. For a system to be selected for playing it must have hit above average in the last 10 & 5 draws. Among 32 systems that I monitor only about 8 - 10 will qualify at any given time.

Seems to me no matter what system you use there is a certain acceptable loss built in.

Even best system will fail at one time or another, often very unexpectedly. Part of playing lottery. But something can be done about it. They call it "risk spread". Don't bet on 1 system only. Use several at the same time. I use 5. The most recent example (from the last Saturday): 4 systems failed, 2 completely, the 5th scored well and gave me 2 winners (in 6 tickets). So the risk of failure is built into the system and the risk spread saved my a$$ twice this month already.

This is not a description of paper & pen methodology. I play this stuff for real. And I don't play cheap so I have to maximize winning chances while minimizing failure effects.

Understand what you're saying and agree. Good advice.

The rating system here is a system rating the combinations by various means to determine good combinations (or better combination). Or say, those more likely to hit. No real science to it. It's akin to finding the the median range where most combinations hit, that 70% or whatever percentage you choose.

Like the lack of science there is nothing to say what stats to use or how to use them.

Basically, you're on your own.

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Mar 26, 2025, 1:29 pm

"Among 32 systems that I monitor only about 8 - 10 will qualify at any given time. "

Sooo, around No moe than a 33% efficiency huh? Soundz bout like anutha similarly Failed Method of a certain Playa on hea Playa649..!!

Are ya shuuure it'z not a... % INPUT inefficiency problem?

Ya 2 seem to have alot in Common,.. az thoze in the Know?, knooow that ANY wheelz iz no betta than the viable numbaz you place in'em..!!

You can uze a small FULL -Wheel system , but won't render any profitable rezultz, if ya pick da WrOnG NuMbaZ to put in it..!!

Naah, 1 thang reeaally YOU should take note of from THAT utha Playa is hiz most logical advice, that even He himself haz failed to put to uze!

" GARBAGE IN = GARBAGE OUT "

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Player649

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Mar 26, 2025, 8:01 pm

The typical way of playing jackpot lotteries is expressed in 2 steps:
1. Select a desired number of numbers
2. Distribute numbers into lines (otherwise called wheeling).

Then comes the issue of hits (how many numbers you match in your selections).
Big hits, that is. No big hits, no big winners, and, quite frequently, no winners at all.

So you need to get as many big hits as possible from your selections. There is a straight relationship between the number of numbers you are playing and the number of big hits you can statistically expect: more numbers = more big hits and thus bigger potential for a big win, not to mention smaller ones. No brainer here.

This leads to a question: what if I play all the numbers, the whole lottery set?

What are the benefits?
1. You maximized big hits, you always have all the numbers.
2. Randomness looses relevance - it does not matter how the numbers are selected.

What are the pitfalls?
1. You faces a brick wall of combinations: in Texas 435 it's 1.8M for 4 + bonus but only about 54K for just 4 numbers.
2. You rely exclusively on wheels for wins (you don't need to worry about hits any more).

The purpose of wheels is to convert your selections (35 numbers) into winners. That's their only reason for existence. Wheels with the same number of numbers and number of tickets have the same winning potential. But here lies the trap. Their current performance may (and in 99% of cases will) be different. So, what's next?

You may have to design multiple wheels in different ways, based on whatever criteria you consider appropriate. Your fantasy is the limit, although, personally, I prefer statistics based fantasies. So far easy, isn't it? But... (you need to do this to avoid kicking your own butt in the future):

The oracle of Chad G Petey, through its prophet dr san, clearly states: test everything before you play. My addition: not only once but many times, with different time frames (short, long), wheel sizes (consult your pocket about this) and wheel types. This will give you a good idea about the range of probabilities for winning big.

I cannot deny that the idea of playing all the numbers didn't cross my mind, too. Big hits were the reason. But the brick wall of 13.9M combinations appeared a bit too thick for me. There are some other issues that would have to be resolved (e.g. big win chances versus wheel ROI) but this does not mean that I gave up on the idea. It will require a bit of time to design & test which is, at the moment, the main constraint.

However, for Texas 435, the idea is definitely worth further exploration. I would not be surprised at all if it does generate meaningful results.
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Mar 26, 2025, 9:27 pm

You sound like you are good with the Lotto 649
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Mar 28, 2025, 4:15 am

I normally track 1000 to 2000 games for overall stats.

To make predictions I normally use around 30 games.

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I asked the same question, still waiting on the answer.