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Lottery software work
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I wonder who voted "Won $1 mil"???
I bet it was Brock Lee.
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Quote: Originally posted by Lotterologist on Sep 27, 2025
I wonder who voted "Won $1 mil"???
I bet it was Brock Lee.
Well I did notice, Todd Diedrich.
I'm not saying he's dead, but um....
Playlist: Hits!
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The reason lottery software does not work is because the draws are "memoryless". We can analyze past draws ad nauseum, but whatever was found does not carry into the future draws. Even a Markov Chain generator applies probability to the future possible states... why this fails in the lottery is that it is an independent event with no dependency on past or future events. None.
I can make my own losing number picking systems for free (I do it all the time), I would never pay someone else to create a program that has the same outcome.
Even though lotteries have either mechanical or RNG selection, they are "random enough" to defeat attempts at accurately and repeatedly winning. While we like to think that the statistics point to better combinations, the odds are always the same... 1:1,000 for pick 3 to 1 in millions for the jackpot games.
Hindsight is always 20/20. When you think you spot a trend or pattern, it is generally gone by the time you try and play it. Yet some of us still keep at it, KNOWING the truth...
On to the next draw...
Have an EXCELlent day!
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on Oct 3, 2025
The reason lottery software does not work is because the draws are "memoryless". We can analyze past draws ad nauseum, but whatever was found does not carry into the future draws. Even a Markov Chain generator applies probability to the future possible states... why this fails in the lottery is that it is an independent event with no dependency on past or future events. None.
I can make my own losing number picking systems for free (I do it all the time), I would never pay someone else to create a program that has the same outcome.
Even though lotteries have either mechanical or RNG selection, they are "random enough" to defeat attempts at accurately and repeatedly winning. While we like to think that the statistics point to better combinations, the odds are always the same... 1:1,000 for pick 3 to 1 in millions for the jackpot games.
Hindsight is always 20/20. When you think you spot a trend or pattern, it is generally gone by the time you try and play it. Yet some of us still keep at it, KNOWING the truth...
On to the next draw...
"is an independent event with no dependency on past or future events."
Well, any number of eventz one can pick in succession , of previouz numbered eventz HAVIN ALREADY PASSED iz DEPENDENT in order for any subsequent (Future) eventz to be called by the next higher numbaz... or lower numbaz..
You
CAIN'T get to saaye "15" witout "14" having already passed / happened..etc THAT'Z Dependency .So, in Utha werdz...
"Whut chu tawkin bout Willis?"Those FACTZ alone Negatez such
flawed thinkin ..You gotta start " thinkin outside da Box " hypersoniqly, cauze the faster you doo, the soonah you'll arrive at da TRUTH

Probability Math duzzn't lie, cauze it cain't
-Stat$talker
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Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Sep 24, 2025
This should have been a: Yes, No or I Don't Know question.

Does Lottery Software work? Yes 8 53.3% █████████████████████████████████████████████████████ No 5 33.3% █████████████████████████████████ I Don't Know 2 13.3% █████████████ Total valid votes 15 Does Lottery Software work? Yes 10 38.5% ███████████████████████████████████████ No 9 34.6% ███████████████████████████████████ I Don't Know 7 26.9% ███████████████████████████ Total valid votes 26 The One Over None
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Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on Oct 3, 2025
The reason lottery software does not work is because the draws are "memoryless". We can analyze past draws ad nauseum, but whatever was found does not carry into the future draws. Even a Markov Chain generator applies probability to the future possible states... why this fails in the lottery is that it is an independent event with no dependency on past or future events. None.
I can make my own losing number picking systems for free (I do it all the time), I would never pay someone else to create a program that has the same outcome.
Even though lotteries have either mechanical or RNG selection, they are "random enough" to defeat attempts at accurately and repeatedly winning. While we like to think that the statistics point to better combinations, the odds are always the same... 1:1,000 for pick 3 to 1 in millions for the jackpot games.
Hindsight is always 20/20. When you think you spot a trend or pattern, it is generally gone by the time you try and play it. Yet some of us still keep at it, KNOWING the truth...
On to the next draw...
If you find randomness bothersome and preventing you from accurately and repeatedly winning eliminate it. Play all the numbers and don't bother selecting any specific ones. In other words, play wheels only containing all the numbers. No matter what is drawn and how you always have them all. And the wheels can be small, in fact as small as you can fit all the numbers; in 649 it is 7 tickets and for the record I play 15-ticket wheels.
Is this effective? I will give you a sample from my own play, no bull, I'm spending money for this.
Prediction for 2025-10-08 (Wed)
Backtracking:
Wheel B40 B30 B20 Total
S145-T15-wheel(8) 68% 64% 83% 215%
S147-T15-wheel(8) 65% 80% 60% 205%
S149-T15-wheel(18) 85% 87% 96% 268%
S150-T15-wheel(13) 69% 64% 85% 218%
S155-T15-wheel(19) 60% 67% 83% 210%
S161-T15-wheel(14) 70% 82% 88% 240%
S162-T15-wheel(11) 67% 63% 60% 190%
S163-T15-wheel(15) 64% 61% 78% 203%
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Selected:
S149-T15-wheel(18) 85% 87% 96% 268%
S161-T15-wheel(14) 70% 82% 88% 240%
---------------------------------------------B40, B30, B20 refer to 40, 30, 20 draws backtrack, percentages are ROIs.
Take a look at this wheel:
S149-T15-wheel(18) 85% 87% 96%
Very consistent performance, you can rely on it. The other one looks pretty good as well. They not only generated winners in the past they continue doing this: this wheel gave me 4-number winner on Oct 1st and 3-number winner on Oct 4th.So, can you win consistently for a period of time? Here are my stats for August:
Financial resultsDate: Played Won Total played Total won ROI
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2025-08-02 $30 $85 $30 $85 283%
2025-08-06 $30 $0 $60 $85 142%
2025-08-09 $30 $10 $90 $95 106%
2025-08-13 $30 $10 $120 $105 88%
2025-08-16 $30 $5 $150 $110 73%
2025-08-20 $30 $10 $180 $120 67%
2025-08-23 $30 $15 $210 $135 64%
2025-08-27 $30 $10 $240 $145 60%
2025-08-30 $30 $5 $270 $150 56%Consistent enough for you? Definitely for me.
For the record: I don't expect to win jackpot with this methodology. My goal is to minimize the cost.
I use self-created Python based software. All computations are fully automated."Watch what you are playing and how". This rule always applies and to all lotteries.
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I aim for the truly impossible goals. I play one ticket for any game. I also use Python to explore ideas, and to back test. The challenges when restricting yourself to one combo mean you surely do not win as much, but I am at the lowest budget possible.
I am fully aware that playing more tickets is the only way to slightly bend the odds in my favor, but I am cheap. I have more fun coding in Python than actually playing.
It can be frustrating when trying to determine the next combo, even in the 1:1,000 of the pick 3 because with one ticket, I am more playing a "best guess" scenario. But I am also of the belief that spending more on tickets is not a guarantee of better results and would take away the fun factor.
I know the odds, I know the extra level of difficulty when playing just one combo for one game. My point is that there is not really any advantage to paying someone for software you can make yourself. I would never buy lottery software, nor would I ever sell lottery software because I know it does not work the way users would hope it works.
But what fun it was to learn Pandas data frames, lambda functions and other Python concepts when applied to something I am interested in. Losing combos are easy to generate, but it never gets old going from clean sheet concept to functional scripts!
Have an EXCELlent day!
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Quote: Originally posted by Player649 on Oct 6, 2025
If you find randomness bothersome and preventing you from accurately and repeatedly winning eliminate it. Play all the numbers and don't bother selecting any specific ones. In other words, play wheels only containing all the numbers. No matter what is drawn and how you always have them all. And the wheels can be small, in fact as small as you can fit all the numbers; in 649 it is 7 tickets and for the record I play 15-ticket wheels.
Is this effective? I will give you a sample from my own play, no bull, I'm spending money for this.
Prediction for 2025-10-08 (Wed)
Backtracking:
Wheel B40 B30 B20 Total
S145-T15-wheel(8) 68% 64% 83% 215%
S147-T15-wheel(8) 65% 80% 60% 205%
S149-T15-wheel(18) 85% 87% 96% 268%
S150-T15-wheel(13) 69% 64% 85% 218%
S155-T15-wheel(19) 60% 67% 83% 210%
S161-T15-wheel(14) 70% 82% 88% 240%
S162-T15-wheel(11) 67% 63% 60% 190%
S163-T15-wheel(15) 64% 61% 78% 203%
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Selected:
S149-T15-wheel(18) 85% 87% 96% 268%
S161-T15-wheel(14) 70% 82% 88% 240%
---------------------------------------------B40, B30, B20 refer to 40, 30, 20 draws backtrack, percentages are ROIs.
Take a look at this wheel:
S149-T15-wheel(18) 85% 87% 96%
Very consistent performance, you can rely on it. The other one looks pretty good as well. They not only generated winners in the past they continue doing this: this wheel gave me 4-number winner on Oct 1st and 3-number winner on Oct 4th.So, can you win consistently for a period of time? Here are my stats for August:
Financial resultsDate: Played Won Total played Total won ROI
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2025-08-02 $30 $85 $30 $85 283%
2025-08-06 $30 $0 $60 $85 142%
2025-08-09 $30 $10 $90 $95 106%
2025-08-13 $30 $10 $120 $105 88%
2025-08-16 $30 $5 $150 $110 73%
2025-08-20 $30 $10 $180 $120 67%
2025-08-23 $30 $15 $210 $135 64%
2025-08-27 $30 $10 $240 $145 60%
2025-08-30 $30 $5 $270 $150 56%Consistent enough for you? Definitely for me.
For the record: I don't expect to win jackpot with this methodology. My goal is to minimize the cost.
I use self-created Python based software. All computations are fully automated."Watch what you are playing and how". This rule always applies and to all lotteries.
Actually, I used this post for preparing the ground for something more important than showing my mediocre (compared with backtracks) results. I want to show the truths about certain bulls that have been swirling around lotteries for decades.
In this context "you" is used in impersonal manner and does not refer to any partircular person, not even to Stat$ although he is always a tempting target, LOL.
Bull #1: you cannot win because numbers are random.
Predictability depends on 2 factors:
A) The number of elements in the selection pool.
B) The number of elements you try to predict at a time.You don't have any control over A) as it is preset by LC. However, you have a perfect control over B) - the decision how many numbers to play belongs entirely to you and LC gives you a complete freedom.
You always play groups. The smallest is the size of a single ticket, the largest - the whole pool. Each group has an average hit rate which depends on the group's size. The relationship is straightforward: the larger the group the higher the hit rate. I posted the hit rate formula before. Ignore it to your own peril, it cannot be emphasized more. 2 simple examples:
1) My lottery is 649 (6 numbers plus bonus). Minimum winner requires match 3. Play only 10 numbers, with the hit rate of only 1.43. Can you realistically hit and thus win 3 numbers, and how often? You may need to play for a very long time to get it. So while winning the minimum prize is statistically miles away, bigger prizes are basically way beyond the horizon. These are the realities.
2) I've known this fact for a long time so I played 24 numbers (out of 49), with the hit rate of 3.43, comfortably above minimum 3. So it was not surprising that I had 3 number winners frequently enough to push my monthly ROI in the range around 35% (compared with my lottery standard of 23%), although, at times, there could be significant fluctuations. But, in all those plays I never had a 4 number winner, not even the a single one. Zilch & zip. Statistically, I was supposed to have 1 in 1033 tickets, but I ended up with nothing. The obvious question was, why? I could not figure this one out at that time. Just blank and dumb.
Today I know the answer. I did not play enough numbers to make it happen, period. When I switched to playing all the numbers I had 4 numbers winner in the very second draw (in May), and from that time on in every month (except September, but it's a separate story why*), including October already. Obvious question, why now and not before - I still play the same 30 tickets now as before? Is the randomness different? No, now I just have the required numbers. It's that simple.
And that's the bull #1. People are made to belive that it is randomness that prevents them from winning, particularly winning consistently. Total bull. The truth is they are not winning because they don't use enough numbers. Nothing to do with randomness.
And just how predominant this bull in lotteries is? Simple answer: it rules.
Which brings us to the second bull, which is also very common and, actually, much more damaging than the first one.
Bull #2: you need a guaranteed wheel to win.
All wheels have 2 properties:
A) Potential - which depends on the number of numbers and the number of lines (tickets) in the wheel; alter any of these and you change the wheel potential; this includes wheel filtering but more about it later.
B) Performance - which depends on time frame and not on its potential. Wheel performance has to be tested before any thought of using it, and this performance has nothing to do with wheel guarantees, balance, how it was created or anything else you can define. This performance is measured in ROI - the ratio of how much money the wheel generated versus its cost; obviously the higher the better.In this light wheel filtering makes little sense because you have to test wheel performance again even if you did before; and if you use different filters every time you may find it difficult to directly compare results to establish efficiency. Generally not a good idea as you can easily create wheels that meet your requirements without filtering. Again, it does not matter how you created the wheel, what is important is how it performs in a given period of time (I use 3 different time frames and a wheel must meet requirements for all 3).
All the wheels I use were generated randomly and meet certain structural criteria. None of them has (and can have) any guarantees. 99% percent of them are not even balanced. Does it matter anything? They win, that's all that counts. The performances of the best were outlined earlier.
For the record, there are 620 of these wheels. Only about 1% meet criteria at any given time. Good enough to have a selection for playing (and winning for that matter).
* The cat tried to fix what was not broken and put his whiskers into a one month experiment which, although did not kill his curiosity, left his pride scratched and budget dented by about $60-70, which all translate into the experiment not going too well. I simply tried a different "how" for playing while using the same "what". But that's the cost of learning.
Now to sum up this lengthy sermon:When you play small groups that cannot hit even the smallest prize, when you use wheels with totally unknown performance you set yourself perfectly up for not winning. Don't blame your failures on randomness because it has nothing to do with it. That's why I posted this earlier: "Watch what you are playing and how". Otherwise you will pay the price. Don't look for scapegoats because there is only 1 culprit: you.
So if you really want to start winning, and consistently, get rid of these 2 bulls. Any software, your own or third party, to be effective must comply with these requirements (large groups playing and wheel testing) or you will be wasting your money, not only for the software but for the playing as well.
Whichever way you play wheel performance testing will play the dominant role (for me it is the only statistic I use). If you don't know how to go about it here is what Chad G Petey advised (I asked for curiosity and the answer was quite satisfactory).
Inquiry: Testing lottery wheels
ChatGPT said:
Testing lottery wheels involves evaluating how well a wheeling system performs under different draw scenarios, especially for lotteries like Pick-5, Pick-6, or Pick-7 games. The goal is to measure how often and under what conditions the wheel hits certain prize levels (e.g. 3/6, 4/6, etc.).
🔧 How to Test a Lottery Wheel
Here’s a step-by-step breakdown:
✅ 1. Choose or Generate a Wheel
You need a wheel (a set of combinations) to test. It could be:
From a book like Bluskov’s
One you generate using a software tool (e.g., Lotto Sorcerer, Wheel Generator, etc.)
A custom-made one using combinatorics📝 Example (Pick-6 Wheel)
Suppose you choose 10 numbers: 1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 14, 21, 27, 30, 33
And your wheel has 20 lines (combinations of 6 numbers each).✅ 2. Simulate a Draw
Pick a simulated winning draw from your selected numbers.
Say the winning draw is: 3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30
Now compare this to each line in your wheel to count how many numbers matched in each line.✅ 3. Check Guarantees
Determine if the wheel's guarantee was met. For example:
A wheel with a 4-if-6 guarantee should have at least one line with 4+ matching numbers if 6 of the winning numbers were in your selection.
More complex wheels might guarantee multiple hits like:
2 x 4-of-6
1 x 5-of-6📊 Count how many lines had:
6 matches (Jackpot)
5 matches
4 matches
3 matches (if that wins in your game)✅ 4. Repeat or Automate
Repeat with:
Different winning combinations
Different wheels
Random draws (to simulate real play)
For statistical testing, simulate thousands of draws and record how often you hit certain prize levels.🔁 Automating the Testing (Optional)
You can automate this in:
Excel / Google Sheets with combinatorics and COUNTIF
Python / R scripts
Lottery wheeling software (like:
Lotto Sorcerer
Gail Howard's Advantage Plus
Bluskov's software, if available)📌 Example Test in Python
Want a small script to test a wheel in Python? I can write one for you. Here’s the concept:
# Your wheel
wheel = [
[1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 14],
[3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30],
# more lines...
]
# Simulated winning draw
winning = {3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30}
# Check each line
for line in wheel:
match_count = len(set(line) & winning)
print(f"Line {line} has {match_count} matches")🧠 Tip: Understand Expectations
Even with wheeling:
Your odds of hitting the jackpot don’t change unless you cover all combinations.
You increase your chance of winning something if you pick the right numbers.
The goal is coverage efficiency: more outcomes, fewer tickets.
There are no hidden formulas for winning in what I'm doing. Anybody can do it. It's just plain statistics. Programming is required, though.Good luck to all. Play smart, start winning and stop whining. And always watch what you are playing and how.
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Zeta Reticuli Star System
United States
Member #30,469
January 17, 2006
12,515 Posts
OfflineHow much lottery software in use? How often is a jackpot won? Lottery software ...... Once upon a time...
Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Quote: Originally posted by Player649 on Oct 8, 2025
Actually, I used this post for preparing the ground for something more important than showing my mediocre (compared with backtracks) results. I want to show the truths about certain bulls that have been swirling around lotteries for decades.
In this context "you" is used in impersonal manner and does not refer to any partircular person, not even to Stat$ although he is always a tempting target, LOL.
Bull #1: you cannot win because numbers are random.
Predictability depends on 2 factors:
A) The number of elements in the selection pool.
B) The number of elements you try to predict at a time.You don't have any control over A) as it is preset by LC. However, you have a perfect control over B) - the decision how many numbers to play belongs entirely to you and LC gives you a complete freedom.
You always play groups. The smallest is the size of a single ticket, the largest - the whole pool. Each group has an average hit rate which depends on the group's size. The relationship is straightforward: the larger the group the higher the hit rate. I posted the hit rate formula before. Ignore it to your own peril, it cannot be emphasized more. 2 simple examples:
1) My lottery is 649 (6 numbers plus bonus). Minimum winner requires match 3. Play only 10 numbers, with the hit rate of only 1.43. Can you realistically hit and thus win 3 numbers, and how often? You may need to play for a very long time to get it. So while winning the minimum prize is statistically miles away, bigger prizes are basically way beyond the horizon. These are the realities.
2) I've known this fact for a long time so I played 24 numbers (out of 49), with the hit rate of 3.43, comfortably above minimum 3. So it was not surprising that I had 3 number winners frequently enough to push my monthly ROI in the range around 35% (compared with my lottery standard of 23%), although, at times, there could be significant fluctuations. But, in all those plays I never had a 4 number winner, not even the a single one. Zilch & zip. Statistically, I was supposed to have 1 in 1033 tickets, but I ended up with nothing. The obvious question was, why? I could not figure this one out at that time. Just blank and dumb.
Today I know the answer. I did not play enough numbers to make it happen, period. When I switched to playing all the numbers I had 4 numbers winner in the very second draw (in May), and from that time on in every month (except September, but it's a separate story why*), including October already. Obvious question, why now and not before - I still play the same 30 tickets now as before? Is the randomness different? No, now I just have the required numbers. It's that simple.
And that's the bull #1. People are made to belive that it is randomness that prevents them from winning, particularly winning consistently. Total bull. The truth is they are not winning because they don't use enough numbers. Nothing to do with randomness.
And just how predominant this bull in lotteries is? Simple answer: it rules.
Which brings us to the second bull, which is also very common and, actually, much more damaging than the first one.
Bull #2: you need a guaranteed wheel to win.
All wheels have 2 properties:
A) Potential - which depends on the number of numbers and the number of lines (tickets) in the wheel; alter any of these and you change the wheel potential; this includes wheel filtering but more about it later.
B) Performance - which depends on time frame and not on its potential. Wheel performance has to be tested before any thought of using it, and this performance has nothing to do with wheel guarantees, balance, how it was created or anything else you can define. This performance is measured in ROI - the ratio of how much money the wheel generated versus its cost; obviously the higher the better.In this light wheel filtering makes little sense because you have to test wheel performance again even if you did before; and if you use different filters every time you may find it difficult to directly compare results to establish efficiency. Generally not a good idea as you can easily create wheels that meet your requirements without filtering. Again, it does not matter how you created the wheel, what is important is how it performs in a given period of time (I use 3 different time frames and a wheel must meet requirements for all 3).
All the wheels I use were generated randomly and meet certain structural criteria. None of them has (and can have) any guarantees. 99% percent of them are not even balanced. Does it matter anything? They win, that's all that counts. The performances of the best were outlined earlier.
For the record, there are 620 of these wheels. Only about 1% meet criteria at any given time. Good enough to have a selection for playing (and winning for that matter).
* The cat tried to fix what was not broken and put his whiskers into a one month experiment which, although did not kill his curiosity, left his pride scratched and budget dented by about $60-70, which all translate into the experiment not going too well. I simply tried a different "how" for playing while using the same "what". But that's the cost of learning.
Now to sum up this lengthy sermon:When you play small groups that cannot hit even the smallest prize, when you use wheels with totally unknown performance you set yourself perfectly up for not winning. Don't blame your failures on randomness because it has nothing to do with it. That's why I posted this earlier: "Watch what you are playing and how". Otherwise you will pay the price. Don't look for scapegoats because there is only 1 culprit: you.
So if you really want to start winning, and consistently, get rid of these 2 bulls. Any software, your own or third party, to be effective must comply with these requirements (large groups playing and wheel testing) or you will be wasting your money, not only for the software but for the playing as well.
Whichever way you play wheel performance testing will play the dominant role (for me it is the only statistic I use). If you don't know how to go about it here is what Chad G Petey advised (I asked for curiosity and the answer was quite satisfactory).
Inquiry: Testing lottery wheels
ChatGPT said:
Testing lottery wheels involves evaluating how well a wheeling system performs under different draw scenarios, especially for lotteries like Pick-5, Pick-6, or Pick-7 games. The goal is to measure how often and under what conditions the wheel hits certain prize levels (e.g. 3/6, 4/6, etc.).
🔧 How to Test a Lottery Wheel
Here’s a step-by-step breakdown:
✅ 1. Choose or Generate a Wheel
You need a wheel (a set of combinations) to test. It could be:
From a book like Bluskov’s
One you generate using a software tool (e.g., Lotto Sorcerer, Wheel Generator, etc.)
A custom-made one using combinatorics📝 Example (Pick-6 Wheel)
Suppose you choose 10 numbers: 1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 14, 21, 27, 30, 33
And your wheel has 20 lines (combinations of 6 numbers each).✅ 2. Simulate a Draw
Pick a simulated winning draw from your selected numbers.
Say the winning draw is: 3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30
Now compare this to each line in your wheel to count how many numbers matched in each line.✅ 3. Check Guarantees
Determine if the wheel's guarantee was met. For example:
A wheel with a 4-if-6 guarantee should have at least one line with 4+ matching numbers if 6 of the winning numbers were in your selection.
More complex wheels might guarantee multiple hits like:
2 x 4-of-6
1 x 5-of-6📊 Count how many lines had:
6 matches (Jackpot)
5 matches
4 matches
3 matches (if that wins in your game)✅ 4. Repeat or Automate
Repeat with:
Different winning combinations
Different wheels
Random draws (to simulate real play)
For statistical testing, simulate thousands of draws and record how often you hit certain prize levels.🔁 Automating the Testing (Optional)
You can automate this in:
Excel / Google Sheets with combinatorics and COUNTIF
Python / R scripts
Lottery wheeling software (like:
Lotto Sorcerer
Gail Howard's Advantage Plus
Bluskov's software, if available)📌 Example Test in Python
Want a small script to test a wheel in Python? I can write one for you. Here’s the concept:
# Your wheel
wheel = [
[1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 14],
[3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30],
# more lines...
]
# Simulated winning draw
winning = {3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30}
# Check each line
for line in wheel:
match_count = len(set(line) & winning)
print(f"Line {line} has {match_count} matches")🧠 Tip: Understand Expectations
Even with wheeling:
Your odds of hitting the jackpot don’t change unless you cover all combinations.
You increase your chance of winning something if you pick the right numbers.
The goal is coverage efficiency: more outcomes, fewer tickets.
There are no hidden formulas for winning in what I'm doing. Anybody can do it. It's just plain statistics. Programming is required, though.Good luck to all. Play smart, start winning and stop whining. And always watch what you are playing and how.
what do you ask chat gpt?
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700 light yrs West of Milky Way Galaxy's Center
United States
Member #200,634
September 1, 2019
5,509 Posts
Offline"under what conditions the wheel hits certain prize levels (e.g. 3/6, 4/6, etc.)."
Playa649?, Ole Stat$ haz told you time & time again, the only condition you must meet iz to have ALL THE VIABLE NUMBERZ that are Stat$tistically pointed out by Probability Math due to fruitionalize,
THAT'Z IT, ..End of dizzscusion..
Az I sed,You can uze a FULL WHEEL,
yet not git a single prize, if you don't got ANY viable numberz in it..You're trying to make Potato Soup, but ya ain't yet figured out how to harvest da Potatoez ..!!

-Stat$talker
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700 light yrs West of Milky Way Galaxy's Center
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September 1, 2019
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by Player649 on Oct 8, 2025
Actually, I used this post for preparing the ground for something more important than showing my mediocre (compared with backtracks) results. I want to show the truths about certain bulls that have been swirling around lotteries for decades.
In this context "you" is used in impersonal manner and does not refer to any partircular person, not even to Stat$ although he is always a tempting target, LOL.
Bull #1: you cannot win because numbers are random.
Predictability depends on 2 factors:
A) The number of elements in the selection pool.
B) The number of elements you try to predict at a time.You don't have any control over A) as it is preset by LC. However, you have a perfect control over B) - the decision how many numbers to play belongs entirely to you and LC gives you a complete freedom.
You always play groups. The smallest is the size of a single ticket, the largest - the whole pool. Each group has an average hit rate which depends on the group's size. The relationship is straightforward: the larger the group the higher the hit rate. I posted the hit rate formula before. Ignore it to your own peril, it cannot be emphasized more. 2 simple examples:
1) My lottery is 649 (6 numbers plus bonus). Minimum winner requires match 3. Play only 10 numbers, with the hit rate of only 1.43. Can you realistically hit and thus win 3 numbers, and how often? You may need to play for a very long time to get it. So while winning the minimum prize is statistically miles away, bigger prizes are basically way beyond the horizon. These are the realities.
2) I've known this fact for a long time so I played 24 numbers (out of 49), with the hit rate of 3.43, comfortably above minimum 3. So it was not surprising that I had 3 number winners frequently enough to push my monthly ROI in the range around 35% (compared with my lottery standard of 23%), although, at times, there could be significant fluctuations. But, in all those plays I never had a 4 number winner, not even the a single one. Zilch & zip. Statistically, I was supposed to have 1 in 1033 tickets, but I ended up with nothing. The obvious question was, why? I could not figure this one out at that time. Just blank and dumb.
Today I know the answer. I did not play enough numbers to make it happen, period. When I switched to playing all the numbers I had 4 numbers winner in the very second draw (in May), and from that time on in every month (except September, but it's a separate story why*), including October already. Obvious question, why now and not before - I still play the same 30 tickets now as before? Is the randomness different? No, now I just have the required numbers. It's that simple.
And that's the bull #1. People are made to belive that it is randomness that prevents them from winning, particularly winning consistently. Total bull. The truth is they are not winning because they don't use enough numbers. Nothing to do with randomness.
And just how predominant this bull in lotteries is? Simple answer: it rules.
Which brings us to the second bull, which is also very common and, actually, much more damaging than the first one.
Bull #2: you need a guaranteed wheel to win.
All wheels have 2 properties:
A) Potential - which depends on the number of numbers and the number of lines (tickets) in the wheel; alter any of these and you change the wheel potential; this includes wheel filtering but more about it later.
B) Performance - which depends on time frame and not on its potential. Wheel performance has to be tested before any thought of using it, and this performance has nothing to do with wheel guarantees, balance, how it was created or anything else you can define. This performance is measured in ROI - the ratio of how much money the wheel generated versus its cost; obviously the higher the better.In this light wheel filtering makes little sense because you have to test wheel performance again even if you did before; and if you use different filters every time you may find it difficult to directly compare results to establish efficiency. Generally not a good idea as you can easily create wheels that meet your requirements without filtering. Again, it does not matter how you created the wheel, what is important is how it performs in a given period of time (I use 3 different time frames and a wheel must meet requirements for all 3).
All the wheels I use were generated randomly and meet certain structural criteria. None of them has (and can have) any guarantees. 99% percent of them are not even balanced. Does it matter anything? They win, that's all that counts. The performances of the best were outlined earlier.
For the record, there are 620 of these wheels. Only about 1% meet criteria at any given time. Good enough to have a selection for playing (and winning for that matter).
* The cat tried to fix what was not broken and put his whiskers into a one month experiment which, although did not kill his curiosity, left his pride scratched and budget dented by about $60-70, which all translate into the experiment not going too well. I simply tried a different "how" for playing while using the same "what". But that's the cost of learning.
Now to sum up this lengthy sermon:When you play small groups that cannot hit even the smallest prize, when you use wheels with totally unknown performance you set yourself perfectly up for not winning. Don't blame your failures on randomness because it has nothing to do with it. That's why I posted this earlier: "Watch what you are playing and how". Otherwise you will pay the price. Don't look for scapegoats because there is only 1 culprit: you.
So if you really want to start winning, and consistently, get rid of these 2 bulls. Any software, your own or third party, to be effective must comply with these requirements (large groups playing and wheel testing) or you will be wasting your money, not only for the software but for the playing as well.
Whichever way you play wheel performance testing will play the dominant role (for me it is the only statistic I use). If you don't know how to go about it here is what Chad G Petey advised (I asked for curiosity and the answer was quite satisfactory).
Inquiry: Testing lottery wheels
ChatGPT said:
Testing lottery wheels involves evaluating how well a wheeling system performs under different draw scenarios, especially for lotteries like Pick-5, Pick-6, or Pick-7 games. The goal is to measure how often and under what conditions the wheel hits certain prize levels (e.g. 3/6, 4/6, etc.).
🔧 How to Test a Lottery Wheel
Here’s a step-by-step breakdown:
✅ 1. Choose or Generate a Wheel
You need a wheel (a set of combinations) to test. It could be:
From a book like Bluskov’s
One you generate using a software tool (e.g., Lotto Sorcerer, Wheel Generator, etc.)
A custom-made one using combinatorics📝 Example (Pick-6 Wheel)
Suppose you choose 10 numbers: 1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 14, 21, 27, 30, 33
And your wheel has 20 lines (combinations of 6 numbers each).✅ 2. Simulate a Draw
Pick a simulated winning draw from your selected numbers.
Say the winning draw is: 3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30
Now compare this to each line in your wheel to count how many numbers matched in each line.✅ 3. Check Guarantees
Determine if the wheel's guarantee was met. For example:
A wheel with a 4-if-6 guarantee should have at least one line with 4+ matching numbers if 6 of the winning numbers were in your selection.
More complex wheels might guarantee multiple hits like:
2 x 4-of-6
1 x 5-of-6📊 Count how many lines had:
6 matches (Jackpot)
5 matches
4 matches
3 matches (if that wins in your game)✅ 4. Repeat or Automate
Repeat with:
Different winning combinations
Different wheels
Random draws (to simulate real play)
For statistical testing, simulate thousands of draws and record how often you hit certain prize levels.🔁 Automating the Testing (Optional)
You can automate this in:
Excel / Google Sheets with combinatorics and COUNTIF
Python / R scripts
Lottery wheeling software (like:
Lotto Sorcerer
Gail Howard's Advantage Plus
Bluskov's software, if available)📌 Example Test in Python
Want a small script to test a wheel in Python? I can write one for you. Here’s the concept:
# Your wheel
wheel = [
[1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 14],
[3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30],
# more lines...
]
# Simulated winning draw
winning = {3, 9, 11, 14, 21, 30}
# Check each line
for line in wheel:
match_count = len(set(line) & winning)
print(f"Line {line} has {match_count} matches")🧠 Tip: Understand Expectations
Even with wheeling:
Your odds of hitting the jackpot don’t change unless you cover all combinations.
You increase your chance of winning something if you pick the right numbers.
The goal is coverage efficiency: more outcomes, fewer tickets.
There are no hidden formulas for winning in what I'm doing. Anybody can do it. It's just plain statistics. Programming is required, though.Good luck to all. Play smart, start winning and stop whining. And always watch what you are playing and how.
"In this context "you" is used in impersonal manner and does not refer to any partircular person, not even to Stat$ although he is always a tempting target, LOL."
Well, if YOU think that You can predict betta than Probabilty Math & Ole Stat$..ya want Meee?
COME
GIT SOME-Stat$talker
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Most weeks I have a 0% ROI. But there are 2 reasons why I don't mind...
1. It was a total cost of $14 to play the entire week.
2. The occasional hit on pick 3 is enough to continue on house money for months!
While I can see the value of playing more tickets when they use all of the numbers, there is still no guarantee that they will group enough on the same ticket. If I played a wheel on those weeks I play the 6/49 PA Match 6 instead of just one combo, I would not be content with anything under 100+% ROI. At $14/wk it is no issue... I was wrong, I lost. I hit $1,000 on that game with only one ticket a few years ago... it was on one of the 2 QP lines they give with each play, so I was still wrong... but a hit is a hit.
My play is entirely driven by budget, it is the first part of any system I develop. At this budget level, randomness is most certainly a factor.
Have an EXCELlent day!
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Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Sep 24, 2025
This should have been a: Yes, No or I Don't Know question.

Does Lottery Software work? Yes 8 53.3% █████████████████████████████████████████████████████ No 5 33.3% █████████████████████████████████ I Don't Know 2 13.3% █████████████ Total valid votes 15 Does Lottery Software work? Yes 13 44.8% █████████████████████████████████████████████ No 9 31.0% ████████████████████████████████ I Don't Know 7 24.1% █████████████████████████ Total valid votes 29 The One Over None
I Know...
