Houston United States
Member #255,587
September 22, 2025
74 Posts
Offline
Someone actually told me, 'its astronomical to get the right number in the right column' or something along that line. And I never gave it much thought how difficult it is to get a number right in each column.
When I design systems; the focus is always on why each number come out the way it does? I then do a deep analysis or have a critical look how those numbers move, number to number, and why. Then I develope filters that match the outcome of the numbers.
There's always a reason why numbers move the way it does. Its not by chance...its by design of a uniform behavior. At least thats how I go about developing my system.
But I'm curious why Players find it astronomical to get a number right in any column? What are you guys seeing that I'm not seeing? Explain that to me. Are you saying its not humanely possible to consistently get a number right in each column because of odds or because no one in the history of lottery has done it?
Let me know your thoughts.
I Don't Guess Numbers. I Create Smart Filters To Draft My Numbers.
Canada
Member #218,115
October 17, 2021
171 Posts
Offline
Quote: Originally posted by Ney1 on Dec 26, 2025
Someone actually told me, 'its astronomical to get the right number in the right column' or something along that line. And I never gave it much thought how difficult it is to get a number right in each column.
When I design systems; the focus is always on why each number come out the way it does? I then do a deep analysis or have a critical look how those numbers move, number to number, and why. Then I develope filters that match the outcome of the numbers.
There's always a reason why numbers move the way it does. Its not by chance...its by design of a uniform behavior. At least thats how I go about developing my system.
But I'm curious why Players find it astronomical to get a number right in any column? What are you guys seeing that I'm not seeing? Explain that to me. Are you saying its not humanely possible to consistently get a number right in each column because of odds or because no one in the history of lottery has done it?
Let me know your thoughts.
Someone actually told me, 'its astronomical to get the right number in the right column'
Regarding the astronomical odds claim for 649.
Total combinations = 13983816
Number positions = 13983816 x 6 = 83902896
Each number = 83902896 / 49 = 1712304 appearances (not astronomical by any means)
Below is the number split for each of 6-number line positions (columns as you call it).
Nothing astronomical in there, either.
Frequencies are different for each number in each position (column) but their all positions totals are exactly the same.
Provider of your information does not seem to be particularly well informed.
I post this info here because these statistics can be helpful in positional number playing.
Each lottery has such statistics and, actually, they are quite easy to compute.
When playing, to maximize winning probabilities, it may be a good idea to have a general idea what number to put in each column. For that very reason playing QPs is not in your best interest as they can put anything in any column in the middle.
Frequencies for first position
Number 1 - 1712304
Number 2 - 1533939
Number 3 - 1370754
Number 4 - 1221759
Number 5 - 1086008
Number 6 - 962598
Number 7 - 850668
Number 8 - 749398
Number 9 - 658008
Number 10 - 575757
Number 11 - 501942
Number 12 - 435897
Number 13 - 376992
Number 14 - 324632
Number 15 - 278256
Number 16 - 237336
Number 17 - 201376
Number 18 - 169911
Number 19 - 142506
Number 20 - 118755
Number 21 - 98280
Number 22 - 80730
Number 23 - 65780
Number 24 - 53130
Number 25 - 42504
Number 26 - 33649
Number 27 - 26334
Number 28 - 20349
Number 29 - 15504
Number 30 - 11628
Number 31 - 8568
Number 32 - 6188
Number 33 - 4368
Number 34 - 3003
Number 35 - 2002
Number 36 - 1287
Number 37 - 792
Number 38 - 462
Number 39 - 252
Number 40 - 126
Number 41 - 56
Number 42 - 21
Number 43 - 6
Number 44 - 1
Number 45 - 0
Number 46 - 0
Number 47 - 0
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 2nd position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 178365
Number 3 - 326370
Number 4 - 446985
Number 5 - 543004
Number 6 - 617050
Number 7 - 671580
Number 8 - 708890
Number 9 - 731120
Number 10 - 740259
Number 11 - 738150
Number 12 - 726495
Number 13 - 706860
Number 14 - 680680
Number 15 - 649264
Number 16 - 613800
Number 17 - 575360
Number 18 - 534905
Number 19 - 493290
Number 20 - 451269
Number 21 - 409500
Number 22 - 368550
Number 23 - 328900
Number 24 - 290950
Number 25 - 255024
Number 26 - 221375
Number 27 - 190190
Number 28 - 161595
Number 29 - 135660
Number 30 - 112404
Number 31 - 91800
Number 32 - 73780
Number 33 - 58240
Number 34 - 45045
Number 35 - 34034
Number 36 - 25025
Number 37 - 17820
Number 38 - 12210
Number 39 - 7980
Number 40 - 4914
Number 41 - 2800
Number 42 - 1435
Number 43 - 630
Number 44 - 215
Number 45 - 44
Number 46 - 0
Number 47 - 0
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 3rd position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 15180
Number 4 - 42570
Number 5 - 79464
Number 6 - 123410
Number 7 - 172200
Number 8 - 223860
Number 9 - 276640
Number 10 - 329004
Number 11 - 379620
Number 12 - 427350
Number 13 - 471240
Number 14 - 510510
Number 15 - 544544
Number 16 - 572880
Number 17 - 595200
Number 18 - 611320
Number 19 - 621180
Number 20 - 624834
Number 21 - 622440
Number 22 - 614250
Number 23 - 600600
Number 24 - 581900
Number 25 - 558624
Number 26 - 531300
Number 27 - 500500
Number 28 - 466830
Number 29 - 430920
Number 30 - 393414
Number 31 - 354960
Number 32 - 316200
Number 33 - 277760
Number 34 - 240240
Number 35 - 204204
Number 36 - 170170
Number 37 - 138600
Number 38 - 109890
Number 39 - 84360
Number 40 - 62244
Number 41 - 43680
Number 42 - 28700
Number 43 - 17220
Number 44 - 9030
Number 45 - 3784
Number 46 - 990
Number 47 - 0
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 4th position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 0
Number 4 - 990
Number 5 - 3784
Number 6 - 9030
Number 7 - 17220
Number 8 - 28700
Number 9 - 43680
Number 10 - 62244
Number 11 - 84360
Number 12 - 109890
Number 13 - 138600
Number 14 - 170170
Number 15 - 204204
Number 16 - 240240
Number 17 - 277760
Number 18 - 316200
Number 19 - 354960
Number 20 - 393414
Number 21 - 430920
Number 22 - 466830
Number 23 - 500500
Number 24 - 531300
Number 25 - 558624
Number 26 - 581900
Number 27 - 600600
Number 28 - 614250
Number 29 - 622440
Number 30 - 624834
Number 31 - 621180
Number 32 - 611320
Number 33 - 595200
Number 34 - 572880
Number 35 - 544544
Number 36 - 510510
Number 37 - 471240
Number 38 - 427350
Number 39 - 379620
Number 40 - 329004
Number 41 - 276640
Number 42 - 223860
Number 43 - 172200
Number 44 - 123410
Number 45 - 79464
Number 46 - 42570
Number 47 - 15180
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 5th position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 0
Number 4 - 0
Number 5 - 44
Number 6 - 215
Number 7 - 630
Number 8 - 1435
Number 9 - 2800
Number 10 - 4914
Number 11 - 7980
Number 12 - 12210
Number 13 - 17820
Number 14 - 25025
Number 15 - 34034
Number 16 - 45045
Number 17 - 58240
Number 18 - 73780
Number 19 - 91800
Number 20 - 112404
Number 21 - 135660
Number 22 - 161595
Number 23 - 190190
Number 24 - 221375
Number 25 - 255024
Number 26 - 290950
Number 27 - 328900
Number 28 - 368550
Number 29 - 409500
Number 30 - 451269
Number 31 - 493290
Number 32 - 534905
Number 33 - 575360
Number 34 - 613800
Number 35 - 649264
Number 36 - 680680
Number 37 - 706860
Number 38 - 726495
Number 39 - 738150
Number 40 - 740259
Number 41 - 731120
Number 42 - 708890
Number 43 - 671580
Number 44 - 617050
Number 45 - 543004
Number 46 - 446985
Number 47 - 326370
Number 48 - 178365
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 6th position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 0
Number 4 - 0
Number 5 - 0
Number 6 - 1
Number 7 - 6
Number 8 - 21
Number 9 - 56
Number 10 - 126
Number 11 - 252
Number 12 - 462
Number 13 - 792
Number 14 - 1287
Number 15 - 2002
Number 16 - 3003
Number 17 - 4368
Number 18 - 6188
Number 19 - 8568
Number 20 - 11628
Number 21 - 15504
Number 22 - 20349
Number 23 - 26334
Number 24 - 33649
Number 25 - 42504
Number 26 - 53130
Number 27 - 65780
Number 28 - 80730
Number 29 - 98280
Number 30 - 118755
Number 31 - 142506
Number 32 - 169911
Number 33 - 201376
Number 34 - 237336
Number 35 - 278256
Number 36 - 324632
Number 37 - 376992
Number 38 - 435897
Number 39 - 501942
Number 40 - 575757
Number 41 - 658008
Number 42 - 749398
Number 43 - 850668
Number 44 - 962598
Number 45 - 1086008
Number 46 - 1221759
Number 47 - 1370754
Number 48 - 1533939
Number 49 - 1712304
bgonçalves Brasil
Member #92,558
June 9, 2010
4,155 Posts
Offline
Hello, if the positions are in ascending order, in the 49/6 order the first position will range from 1 to 30 at most. However, if we're not looking at ascending order, the first position will range from 1 to 49. Therefore, ascending order is better.
Pennsylvania United States
Member #1,340
April 6, 2003
2,940 Posts
Offline
Quote: Originally posted by dr san on Dec 28, 2025
Hello, if the positions are in ascending order, in the 49/6 order the first position will range from 1 to 30 at most. However, if we're not looking at ascending order, the first position will range from 1 to 49. Therefore, ascending order is better.
So what your post shows is that in a 6/49 game, where the data per column is sorted ascending, each column has 44 possible numbers instead of 49. So on a per column basis, each number, in a fairly drawn game has a modified expectancy... 1/44 (0.0227) rather than 1/49 (0.0204) when considering sorted over drawn order. Since 5 numbers are not possible in each column, it looks to reduce the odds as C(49/6) has 13,983,816 combinations, while C(44/6) has 7,059,052 combinations. Interesting observation.... that almost cuts the odds in half...
C(49/6) is a more compact way of writing 49 choose 6.
By the data, that makes 1, 10, 20, 30, 40, 49 the most likely combo in any 6/49.
bgonçalves Brasil
Member #92,558
June 9, 2010
4,155 Posts
Offline
hello! HYPER! In 95% of cases, but 80% already knew that the 6th position of the 49/6 starts with 16 to 49, while the 1st position starts with 01 to 35, and so on in the other positions when it's ascending.
Houston United States
Member #255,587
September 22, 2025
74 Posts
Offline
Quote: Originally posted by Player649 on Dec 27, 2025
Someone actually told me, 'its astronomical to get the right number in the right column'
Regarding the astronomical odds claim for 649.
Total combinations = 13983816
Number positions = 13983816 x 6 = 83902896
Each number = 83902896 / 49 = 1712304 appearances (not astronomical by any means)
Below is the number split for each of 6-number line positions (columns as you call it).
Nothing astronomical in there, either.
Frequencies are different for each number in each position (column) but their all positions totals are exactly the same.
Provider of your information does not seem to be particularly well informed.
I post this info here because these statistics can be helpful in positional number playing.
Each lottery has such statistics and, actually, they are quite easy to compute.
When playing, to maximize winning probabilities, it may be a good idea to have a general idea what number to put in each column. For that very reason playing QPs is not in your best interest as they can put anything in any column in the middle.
Frequencies for first position
Number 1 - 1712304
Number 2 - 1533939
Number 3 - 1370754
Number 4 - 1221759
Number 5 - 1086008
Number 6 - 962598
Number 7 - 850668
Number 8 - 749398
Number 9 - 658008
Number 10 - 575757
Number 11 - 501942
Number 12 - 435897
Number 13 - 376992
Number 14 - 324632
Number 15 - 278256
Number 16 - 237336
Number 17 - 201376
Number 18 - 169911
Number 19 - 142506
Number 20 - 118755
Number 21 - 98280
Number 22 - 80730
Number 23 - 65780
Number 24 - 53130
Number 25 - 42504
Number 26 - 33649
Number 27 - 26334
Number 28 - 20349
Number 29 - 15504
Number 30 - 11628
Number 31 - 8568
Number 32 - 6188
Number 33 - 4368
Number 34 - 3003
Number 35 - 2002
Number 36 - 1287
Number 37 - 792
Number 38 - 462
Number 39 - 252
Number 40 - 126
Number 41 - 56
Number 42 - 21
Number 43 - 6
Number 44 - 1
Number 45 - 0
Number 46 - 0
Number 47 - 0
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 2nd position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 178365
Number 3 - 326370
Number 4 - 446985
Number 5 - 543004
Number 6 - 617050
Number 7 - 671580
Number 8 - 708890
Number 9 - 731120
Number 10 - 740259
Number 11 - 738150
Number 12 - 726495
Number 13 - 706860
Number 14 - 680680
Number 15 - 649264
Number 16 - 613800
Number 17 - 575360
Number 18 - 534905
Number 19 - 493290
Number 20 - 451269
Number 21 - 409500
Number 22 - 368550
Number 23 - 328900
Number 24 - 290950
Number 25 - 255024
Number 26 - 221375
Number 27 - 190190
Number 28 - 161595
Number 29 - 135660
Number 30 - 112404
Number 31 - 91800
Number 32 - 73780
Number 33 - 58240
Number 34 - 45045
Number 35 - 34034
Number 36 - 25025
Number 37 - 17820
Number 38 - 12210
Number 39 - 7980
Number 40 - 4914
Number 41 - 2800
Number 42 - 1435
Number 43 - 630
Number 44 - 215
Number 45 - 44
Number 46 - 0
Number 47 - 0
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 3rd position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 15180
Number 4 - 42570
Number 5 - 79464
Number 6 - 123410
Number 7 - 172200
Number 8 - 223860
Number 9 - 276640
Number 10 - 329004
Number 11 - 379620
Number 12 - 427350
Number 13 - 471240
Number 14 - 510510
Number 15 - 544544
Number 16 - 572880
Number 17 - 595200
Number 18 - 611320
Number 19 - 621180
Number 20 - 624834
Number 21 - 622440
Number 22 - 614250
Number 23 - 600600
Number 24 - 581900
Number 25 - 558624
Number 26 - 531300
Number 27 - 500500
Number 28 - 466830
Number 29 - 430920
Number 30 - 393414
Number 31 - 354960
Number 32 - 316200
Number 33 - 277760
Number 34 - 240240
Number 35 - 204204
Number 36 - 170170
Number 37 - 138600
Number 38 - 109890
Number 39 - 84360
Number 40 - 62244
Number 41 - 43680
Number 42 - 28700
Number 43 - 17220
Number 44 - 9030
Number 45 - 3784
Number 46 - 990
Number 47 - 0
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 4th position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 0
Number 4 - 990
Number 5 - 3784
Number 6 - 9030
Number 7 - 17220
Number 8 - 28700
Number 9 - 43680
Number 10 - 62244
Number 11 - 84360
Number 12 - 109890
Number 13 - 138600
Number 14 - 170170
Number 15 - 204204
Number 16 - 240240
Number 17 - 277760
Number 18 - 316200
Number 19 - 354960
Number 20 - 393414
Number 21 - 430920
Number 22 - 466830
Number 23 - 500500
Number 24 - 531300
Number 25 - 558624
Number 26 - 581900
Number 27 - 600600
Number 28 - 614250
Number 29 - 622440
Number 30 - 624834
Number 31 - 621180
Number 32 - 611320
Number 33 - 595200
Number 34 - 572880
Number 35 - 544544
Number 36 - 510510
Number 37 - 471240
Number 38 - 427350
Number 39 - 379620
Number 40 - 329004
Number 41 - 276640
Number 42 - 223860
Number 43 - 172200
Number 44 - 123410
Number 45 - 79464
Number 46 - 42570
Number 47 - 15180
Number 48 - 0
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 5th position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 0
Number 4 - 0
Number 5 - 44
Number 6 - 215
Number 7 - 630
Number 8 - 1435
Number 9 - 2800
Number 10 - 4914
Number 11 - 7980
Number 12 - 12210
Number 13 - 17820
Number 14 - 25025
Number 15 - 34034
Number 16 - 45045
Number 17 - 58240
Number 18 - 73780
Number 19 - 91800
Number 20 - 112404
Number 21 - 135660
Number 22 - 161595
Number 23 - 190190
Number 24 - 221375
Number 25 - 255024
Number 26 - 290950
Number 27 - 328900
Number 28 - 368550
Number 29 - 409500
Number 30 - 451269
Number 31 - 493290
Number 32 - 534905
Number 33 - 575360
Number 34 - 613800
Number 35 - 649264
Number 36 - 680680
Number 37 - 706860
Number 38 - 726495
Number 39 - 738150
Number 40 - 740259
Number 41 - 731120
Number 42 - 708890
Number 43 - 671580
Number 44 - 617050
Number 45 - 543004
Number 46 - 446985
Number 47 - 326370
Number 48 - 178365
Number 49 - 0
Frequencies for 6th position
Number 1 - 0
Number 2 - 0
Number 3 - 0
Number 4 - 0
Number 5 - 0
Number 6 - 1
Number 7 - 6
Number 8 - 21
Number 9 - 56
Number 10 - 126
Number 11 - 252
Number 12 - 462
Number 13 - 792
Number 14 - 1287
Number 15 - 2002
Number 16 - 3003
Number 17 - 4368
Number 18 - 6188
Number 19 - 8568
Number 20 - 11628
Number 21 - 15504
Number 22 - 20349
Number 23 - 26334
Number 24 - 33649
Number 25 - 42504
Number 26 - 53130
Number 27 - 65780
Number 28 - 80730
Number 29 - 98280
Number 30 - 118755
Number 31 - 142506
Number 32 - 169911
Number 33 - 201376
Number 34 - 237336
Number 35 - 278256
Number 36 - 324632
Number 37 - 376992
Number 38 - 435897
Number 39 - 501942
Number 40 - 575757
Number 41 - 658008
Number 42 - 749398
Number 43 - 850668
Number 44 - 962598
Number 45 - 1086008
Number 46 - 1221759
Number 47 - 1370754
Number 48 - 1533939
Number 49 - 1712304
I do have a method to compute number-frequency in my system but it doesn't involved math calculation and percentages. More of symbols and repetition of those symbols.
I Don't Guess Numbers. I Create Smart Filters To Draft My Numbers.
Houston United States
Member #255,587
September 22, 2025
74 Posts
Offline
Quote: Originally posted by dr san on Dec 28, 2025
Hello, if the positions are in ascending order, in the 49/6 order the first position will range from 1 to 30 at most. However, if we're not looking at ascending order, the first position will range from 1 to 49. Therefore, ascending order is better.
Yeah, I know the range for each columns. Thats easy to figure out but still a challenge to pin it down to one number for each column and get it right. Thats why someone told me the chance of getting it right is astronomical, the guess.
However, I can pin it down to 5 to 7 numbers in each columns but it still becomes challenging to get the right combination without playing all the combinations which is too much money to pay.
I Don't Guess Numbers. I Create Smart Filters To Draft My Numbers.
Colorado United States
Member #173,294
February 25, 2016
1,135 Posts Online
Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on Dec 28, 2025
So what your post shows is that in a 6/49 game, where the data per column is sorted ascending, each column has 44 possible numbers instead of 49. So on a per column basis, each number, in a fairly drawn game has a modified expectancy... 1/44 (0.0227) rather than 1/49 (0.0204) when considering sorted over drawn order. Since 5 numbers are not possible in each column, it looks to reduce the odds as C(49/6) has 13,983,816 combinations, while C(44/6) has 7,059,052 combinations. Interesting observation.... that almost cuts the odds in half...
C(49/6) is a more compact way of writing 49 choose 6.
By the data, that makes 1, 10, 20, 30, 40, 49 the most likely combo in any 6/49.
44 numbers in six columns but they all have to be in the right column is a different game with far worse odds. It's not 44 choose 6, it would be 44^6, which is 7.25 billion.
United States
Member #146,020
August 22, 2013
1,526 Posts
Offline
Several years ago there was a Cash 5 / Pick 6 system advertised that it would reduce the range the range of numbers in any 5/6 game. I think it was called the "EPR" System and it cost around $ 500 dollars.
Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors. Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people. These forces would also argue that they have a winning MIRACLE system; that is, until asked to post numbers before the drawing !
Pennsylvania United States
Member #1,340
April 6, 2003
2,940 Posts
Offline
Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Dec 28, 2025
44 numbers in six columns but they all have to be in the right column is a different game with far worse odds. It's not 44 choose 6, it would be 44^6, which is 7.25 billion.
With draw order data that would be 49^6 or 13.84 billion, so still an advantage to have sorted order data.
