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what's the sweet spot?

$1 million

[ 5 ]

[ 12.8% ]

$10 million

[ 10 ]

[ 25.6% ]

$50 million

[ 8 ]

[ 20.5% ]

$100 million

[ 0 ]

[ 0.0% ]

$500 million

[ 6 ]

[ 15.4% ]

the more the better

[ 10 ]

[ 25.6% ]

Total valid votes

[ 39 ]

Discarded votes

[ 1 ]

Tucker Black

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Jan 9, 2026, 9:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jan 9, 2026
In Las Vegas every time a 'knowledge' player would approach a table with a note book and a pencil would approach a table old time bosses would say, "Oh here we go, another genius from Providence". You sound like one. While one player on a crap table is winning a lot betting on the hard ways and horn bets they'll be another one on the table telling other players what bad bets the prop player is making. So much for a math degree with an emphasis on probabilities. Your thinking that four shooters on a crap table don't throw four passes isn't a good system speaks volumes. Granted most systems are bad is true but some such as that one are strong. You would be a real trip to discuss sports betting systems with. I think you might be a Maven U. Grad, Maven University, opinion over knowledge. Book learning without experience doesn't say much. Casinos stay in business because players don't increase their bets when winning. Casino owner Bob Stupak said that the only bets in a casino that pay true odds are pass line and come bet odds but you have to make the flat bets to make the odds bets. For all the other bets we don't pay true odds and that's where we make our money.

If there were any betting system that beat the casino, they would all be out of business.

It can't be done because you cannot overcome the house edge. Short term wins from a betting system get offset by losses. The house always wins in the long run.
Coin Toss

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Jan 9, 2026, 9:31 pm

Of course the house wins in the long run. The system of betting four shooters don't make four passes each takes a lot of discipline and truth be known is a boring way to play because you only have a bet on the Don't. Try looking up some John Scarne books. The most polite thing I can say to you is you are not the know it all that you think you are.
Tucker Black

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Jan 9, 2026, 9:59 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jan 9, 2026
Of course the house wins in the long run. The system of betting four shooters don't make four passes each takes a lot of discipline and truth be known is a boring way to play because you only have a bet on the Don't. Try looking up some John Scarne books. The most polite thing I can say to you is you are not the know it all that you think you are.

Oh, okay, so my degree in mathematics was pointless. All those books I read and proofs I did are just "alternative facts" and some casino dealer knows the real deal. Whatever. I don't understand why you and Lotterologist don't get along. Both of you believe in alternative math.
Coin Toss

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Jan 9, 2026, 10:13 pm

You've got to deal in the real world more than theories and opinions. As I said before when someone on a craps table is raking it in on prop bets there is likely to be another player telling others what 'stupid' bets that player is making. As a ps when Colorado casinos first opened some Vegas dealers went there but most came back to Vegas. In Vegas they'd been making $40 to $100 a day in tips, in Colorado maybe $20.
Artist77

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Jan 10, 2026, 2:59 am

Degrees in most things just gives one the basics. Real life experience is what gives one the true real world expertise.

DO NOT BE AFRAID.

How Great Thou Art. God has blessed America.
Coin Toss

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Jan 13, 2026, 7:45 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Jan 9, 2026
Oh, okay, so my degree in mathematics was pointless. All those books I read and proofs I did are just "alternative facts" and some casino dealer knows the real deal. Whatever. I don't understand why you and Lotterologist don't get along. Both of you believe in alternative math.

Lotterologist and I don't get along becuase I don't believe in lotterology.

As for your penchant about possiilties no one should let them rule their life. For one what if the commander of the 101st Airbornes at Bastogne had given up because they were outnumbered.

Grated war is not the only example of evil but I will say the majority of americans have no real grasp of fear. I'm not taling about fear of losing ones job or any such fear, I'm tslkiing about knowin there are bunches of people who are out to kill you dsy after day. Granted many crimes victims and those who've experienced fear and haven't reported it.
GiveFive

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Jan 14, 2026, 9:23 am

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jan 10, 2026
Degrees in most things just gives one the basics. Real life experience is what gives one the true real world expertise.

The University of LIFE!! Or Hardknocks, whichever you prefer.

Life is not fair and often is unkind to many. Everyday life has a way of kicking good people who did nothing to deserve it squarely in the teeth. (Been there, done that)

I suspect some booksmart people that post on The LP have yet to be squarely kicked in the teeth. G5

Play Smart! That's IF there is such a thing as playing smartly!!
Tucker Black

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Jan 14, 2026, 11:05 am

Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on Jan 14, 2026
The University of LIFE!! Or Hardknocks, whichever you prefer.

Life is not fair and often is unkind to many. Everyday life has a way of kicking good people who did nothing to deserve it squarely in the teeth. (Been there, done that)

I suspect some booksmart people that post on The LP have yet to be squarely kicked in the teeth. G5

"Poor me, I'm the victim" Cry me a river. Your budget for lottery tickets is way more than what the average American can afford. Unless you're living in subsidized housing and shopping for groceries at the food bank, I think you're doing okay.

It's okay to refer to another user by name. You don't need to beat around the bush. Believe me, I have plenty of life experience at that University.

When it comes to what you and the other haters refer to as "book learning", I always find real-life applications. Last night, I figured out the odds of getting a mini-royal at 3 Card Poker, both the spades only and the 'any suits' while chatting with the dealer. With the dealer's estimates of hands per hour, we estimated the time it takes for one of those to hit. What we didn't know was the progressive meter rate, because that requires someone to be playing it, and that table was dead, which was the reason for the conversation.

The haters are jealous that some people have the training and experience to be able to figure out things like this. Not everything in life requires advanced education. When it comes to something like "I buy my three Powerball tickets in three different counties", even a drug-addled bum would respond with "OMG why would anyone do that?"
Lotterologist

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Jan 14, 2026, 12:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Jan 9, 2026
Oh, okay, so my degree in mathematics was pointless. All those books I read and proofs I did are just "alternative facts" and some casino dealer knows the real deal. Whatever. I don't understand why you and Lotterologist don't get along. Both of you believe in alternative math.

I don't understand why you and Lotterologist don't get along. Both of you believe in alternative math.

I have nothing against Coin Toss nor anyone on here.

Some men will betray their best friend when a woman is in the mix.

I won't discuss what Ryan O'Neal did to Lee Majors or what George Harrison did to Ringo.

That's life and that's the way it is!
Lotterologist

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Jan 14, 2026, 1:07 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jan 13, 2026
Lotterologist and I don't get along becuase I don't believe in lotterology.

As for your penchant about possiilties no one should let them rule their life. For one what if the commander of the 101st Airbornes at Bastogne had given up because they were outnumbered.

Grated war is not the only example of evil but I will say the majority of americans have no real grasp of fear. I'm not taling about fear of losing ones job or any such fear, I'm tslkiing about knowin there are bunches of people who are out to kill you dsy after day. Granted many crimes victims and those who've experienced fear and haven't reported it.

Lotterologist and I don't get along becuase I don't believe in lotterology.

You can't be serious!

Does everyone you get along with have to believe the same things as you???

That's not the reason and you know it!

It's because I don't cowtow to Artist77 and her evil agenda!

Don't be ashamed of being submissive!

Just tell the truth!
Elizabeth03

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Jan 14, 2026, 4:00 pm

I would be happy winning up to $1,000,000 or more.
Coin Toss

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Jan 15, 2026, 8:59 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Jan 9, 2026
If there were any betting system that beat the casino, they would all be out of business.

It can't be done because you cannot overcome the house edge. Short term wins from a betting system get offset by losses. The house always wins in the long run.

Try this, at The Cal in Las Vegas they have a pecial keno ticket that pays $1,000 for a one dollar bet. We had a player who showed up at least once a month. He had very deep pockets and would play a 5 spot keno ticket not for $1 but for $50. So when he five numbers hit he won $50,000. that was his main bet. He also played craps. When a keno runner came to the table and asked him if he wanted to play again he would give her a stack of blacks, twenty one hundred dollar cheques. (Chips are only used only in roulette). If he won, which he did quite often, he'd ask for the casino limo to take him to another property the casino owned, Sam's Town (the cainos wer owned by the late Sam Boyd). He like to go there because they had a westeern clothing store. They also had gambling and while he waited for his $50,000 payofs from keno he'd platy video keno and win over $1700 while waiting for his $50,000. That was one player who constantly beast the house.

No, he didn't put the casino out of business but players like that are rare. Yes the house always wins in the long run but there are players like that keno player.

You really seem to make opinionated posts and seem to deal in theory, not facts. You know a lot less than you think you do about casino games and gambling.
Tucker Black

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Jan 16, 2026, 1:36 am

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jan 15, 2026
Try this, at The Cal in Las Vegas they have a pecial keno ticket that pays $1,000 for a one dollar bet. We had a player who showed up at least once a month. He had very deep pockets and would play a 5 spot keno ticket not for $1 but for $50. So when he five numbers hit he won $50,000. that was his main bet. He also played craps. When a keno runner came to the table and asked him if he wanted to play again he would give her a stack of blacks, twenty one hundred dollar cheques. (Chips are only used only in roulette). If he won, which he did quite often, he'd ask for the casino limo to take him to another property the casino owned, Sam's Town (the cainos wer owned by the late Sam Boyd). He like to go there because they had a westeern clothing store. They also had gambling and while he waited for his $50,000 payofs from keno he'd platy video keno and win over $1700 while waiting for his $50,000. That was one player who constantly beast the house.

No, he didn't put the casino out of business but players like that are rare. Yes the house always wins in the long run but there are players like that keno player.

You really seem to make opinionated posts and seem to deal in theory, not facts. You know a lot less than you think you do about casino games and gambling.

I've worked in casinos for years.

People can beat the casino if they're lucky. I did not state that was impossible.
Coin Toss

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Jan 16, 2026, 2:07 am

That's true but the player I mentioned didn't win because of luck, he won because he had very deep pockets and spotted the special keno ticket that paid $1,000 dollars for hitting five numbers. I don't doubt you've worked in casinos but safe to say it hasn't been in table games.
lakerben

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Jan 16, 2026, 10:58 pm

Story on the net a man with dementia was in a California casino and thought he was buying a soda with change. I tuned out to be a high paying slot and he won 1.2 million!!!.

Win!

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