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JAP69's avatar - alas
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Posted: May 4, 2003, 5:18 am - IP Logged

 

As there are 120 no match box numbers in the three game. Does anyone know how many wheel combinations of five digit wheels are there to take in all 120 possible combinations?
Likewise for a four digit wheel.
If you have them could you post them for us?
Thanks

WHATT

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    Posted: May 4, 2003, 6:20 am - IP Logged

    I am going to expand the discussion on wheels a little more. Obviously I have not figured out how many combinations there are but I use wheels from time to time selecting my digits for the wheel from different data keeping. I currently use data from a twenty draw count based on the amount of times a digit is drawn.
    S.C. twenty day draw count
    20 day digit count  67420__13895
    6-10t
    7-10t
    4-09t
    2-07t
    0-05t
    1-05t
    3-05t
    8-04t
    9-03t
    5-02t
    I will select a mix  from the front five the back five or I may go all front or all rear five.
    For those using wheels what data do you use to select your digits from?
    What success have you had from using wheels?

     

     

    WHATT

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      Posted: May 4, 2003, 7:18 am - IP Logged

      John,

      I just got done writing a response to you and my cat stepped on the keyboard and erased it, so here I go again.  Based on your 20 draw history I've had success with the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 8th digits in their hit frequency for a 5 number wheel.

      See how it works for you in SC.

      Good luck!

      Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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        Posted: May 4, 2003, 7:28 am - IP Logged

        I also play the S.C. Lottery so THANKS for the advice!!!!! Good luck to you both!!!

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          Posted: May 4, 2003, 8:50 am - IP Logged
          John,

           

          I don't know if this is what you mean, but you can get 60 plays with 5 digits and if you want a 120 plays you have to use all 10 digits... Below is a example of 5 digits with 60 plays...

           

          123
          132
          213
          231
          312
          321
          124
          142
          214
          241
          412
          421
          125
          152
          215
          251
          512
          521
          134
          143
          314
          341
          413
          431
          135
          153
          315
          351
          513
          531
          145
          154
          415
          451
          514
          541
          234
          243
          324
          342
          423
          432
          235
          253
          325
          352
          523
          532
          245
          254
          425
          452
          524
          542
          345
          354
          435
          453
          534
          543

          ----------------------------

          I always pick 3 Hot 1 Prior 1 hot or Due...
           

          Ohio Midday for Monday exp:

          3-7-0-6-4

           

           

          Good Luck Lep

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            Posted: May 4, 2003, 9:20 am - IP Logged

            Sorry - I had hot instead of cold or due...

            I always pick 3 Hot 1 Prior 1 Cold or Due...


             

            Ohio Midday for Monday exp:

            3-7-0-6-4

            Good Luck Lep

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              Posted: May 4, 2003, 9:31 am - IP Logged

              Thanks Lucky,

              That is similiar to what I had in mind although I was wondering how many five digit wheels there are to catch all 120 box combinations.
              the five digit wheel as you have it will give me 10 box combinations with 60 straight plays .
              If I were to get 10 box combinations on a five digit wheel. Then there may possibly be 12 five digit wheel combinations.
              I may figure them out later. If I were to intermingle 5 digits on hot and cold there may possibly be more than 12.
              This is something I had wondered about but never figured the possibilities.

              WHATT

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                Posted: May 4, 2003, 9:34 am - IP Logged

                Lucky,
                Thanks for the info on how you select the number of digits from hot to cold or due.

                WHATT

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                  Posted: May 4, 2003, 10:17 am - IP Logged

                  Rick,
                  Thanks for the reply on where in the line you select your digits from.

                  WHATT

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                    Posted: May 4, 2003, 11:05 am - IP Logged

                    You're welcome, John, and a

                    Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                      Posted: May 4, 2003, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

                      JAP69,

                      There are certainly more the 12 five digit wheels. This is mathematically an optimization problem, similar to the coverage of e.g how many sets do I need in a 6 out of 49 lottery to get at least 3 numbers correctly (or include all 3 number combinations)

                      In this case the question is how many 5 five digit wheels to I need to have all 120 3 no-match number combintations included. Due to the fact that the 5 digit wheels are overlapping it cannot be calculated, but to find the lowest number of wheel necessary has to be solved more or less through trial and error.

                      Starting with the possible 252 wheels that are possible you can eliminate the ones that have more than more the 2 (or three) equal 3 digit combinations included.

                      Actually a very interesting topic.

                       

                       

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                        Posted: May 4, 2003, 4:30 pm - IP Logged
                        Quote: Originally posted by Rick G on May 04, 2003



                        John,

                        I just got done writing a response to you and my cat stepped on the keyboard and erased it, so here I go again.  Based on your 20 draw history I've had success with the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 8th digits in their hit frequency for a 5 number wheel.

                        See how it works for you in SC.

                        Good luck!





                        20 day digit 67420__13895
                        Rick,
                        Looks like you nailed that one tonite position 3-4-8
                        428 hit.
                        I had already placed my wager for today and did not play those out.
                        darn I just noticed  thats the way it hit straight too. You never know in this game.

                         

                         


                         

                        WHATT

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                          Posted: May 4, 2003, 4:56 pm - IP Logged
                          Quote: Originally posted by Lucky on May 04, 2003



                          Sorry - I had hot instead of cold or due...

                          I always pick 3 Hot 1 Prior 1 Cold or Due...


                           

                          Ohio Midday for Monday exp:

                          3-7-0-6-4








                          Lucky,
                          20 day digit 67420__13895

                          tonites hit was in your same parameters as the hit number tonite of 428. 403 hit last night.

                          Thanks to you and Rick both

                          John