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# Powerball... off-the-wall theories...

Topic closed. 18 replies. Last post 13 years ago by hypersoniq.

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Wisconsin
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 Posted: January 17, 2004, 7:07 pm - IP Logged

123-133 25,26 then 18,19 then 24,25 skip one then 16,17 skip one then 41,42

87-97 25,26 skip three then 50,51 skip one 35,36 and skip two then 33,34

the two number sequences? 25,26 on both verticle columns at the second drawing position. ie row 124 and row 88.

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 Posted: January 17, 2004, 9:30 pm - IP Logged

also a repeat of 33 in rows 133 vs 97

pattern in row 131  4+3=same as in row 95 6+3=9

rows 130 and 94 41 repeats as marked as pb +19 in 124

interesting red ball sequence in rows 93-95...+32,+33,+31

and look at rows 129-130 versus 93-94 in both cases the red ball increased by 1 in the next drawing. +1,+2 vs +32,+33

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 Posted: January 18, 2004, 7:55 am - IP Logged

my pick did not do so hot :-(

Still studying the whole thing...

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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 Posted: January 18, 2004, 7:58 am - IP Logged

hyper,

At least you are trying different ideas. No harm in that. Keep at it.

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 Posted: January 22, 2004, 11:19 am - IP Logged

Hyper,

maybe this can be adapted to the match 6.  Remember the only way to match 10 of 6 drawb  (out of 18 on the ticket)  is to have numbers repeated.  The lottery that plays itself.  You pick  6 with  twelve extra  more drawn..  Win a chance to win extra.  Different.  Who knows?

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dont try to pick up which number is more probably appear.leave this issue to the combos.what you need to know is every possible numbers for every 5+1 position

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 Posted: January 24, 2004, 11:29 pm - IP Logged

next up... we are all relatively familiar with decades...

In order to get a clear picture of the state of the balls before the draw, I propose the columns chart...

White ball Machine
Column 1 = 1-11
Column 2 = 12-21
Column 3 = 22-32
Column 4 = 33-42
Column 5 = 43-53

Powerball Machine
Column 1 = 1-9
Column 2 = 10-17
Column 3 = 18-25
Column 4 = 26-33
Column 5 = 34-42

I don't know if there will be any benefit at all, but it's something new to toy with...

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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 Posted: January 24, 2004, 11:57 pm - IP Logged

Hello Hypersonic and other lotto comerades:

Why not try dividing your PowerBall into:

THREE parts of 17-18-18 balls?!

Or FOUR parts of 13-13-13-14 balls?!

This way, you can also better include decades that "overlap/double up" that is, say a pattern of two single numbers and three numbers in thirties...etc! You can then base your picks on the majority/percentage of the balls that fall in the respective segments (sectors on pie chart)...!

Just Monkeying Around With Numbers...!

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 Posted: January 25, 2004, 6:33 am - IP Logged

the reason for the columns as listed above is to represent the way the balls are before being dumped into the machine...

white balls = 5 columns (11)(10)(11)(10)(11) = 53

powerballs = 5 columns (9)(8)(8)(8)(9) = 42

when arranged as such...

01|__|22|__|43      01|__|__|__|34
02|12|23|33|44      02|10|18|26|35
03|13|24|34|45      03|11|19|27|36
04|14|25|35|46      04|12|20|28|37
05|15|26|36|47      05|13|21|29|38
06|16|27|37|48      06|14|22|30|39
07|17|28|38|49      07|15|23|31|40
08|18|29|39|50      08|16|24|32|41
09|19|30|40|51      09|17|25|33|42
10|20|31|41|52
11|21|32|42|53

you can even have X & Y coordinates for each one. (assuming first quadrant orientation[right=X+, up=Y+], in the white balls #11 would be 1,1... as would 09 in the powerballs... )

dividing into arbitrary groups may make it easier for some to interpret results, but I am just trying to give the grouping some meaning.

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dont make things too complicated or else you will lose the way

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 Posted: January 26, 2004, 10:57 am - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by goose on January 25, 2004

dont make things too complicated or else you will lose the way

if you ask me, things are not complex enough... We need to look outside ofthe current state of lottery analysis... pick up technology from another arena (data mining, neural networks, fuzzy logic) and get more robust formulae (calculus comes to mind).

the learning curve is steep, and the only way to prove anything is to win...

I don't have the extra cash to play using trapping and big wheels, so I will look for more accuracy and smaller lines to play. It's foolish to actually go out and play everything that you might come up with, but playing on paper and back testing cost nothing ;-) regardless of the complexity.

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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 Posted: January 26, 2004, 10:59 am - IP Logged

I think I will end up trying to "deconstruct" the last draws over time, moving backwards against the history to see where the numbers might have come from, to seek possible indicators...

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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 Posted: January 28, 2004, 10:01 pm - IP Logged

come on, I can't be the ONLY one with off-the-wall theories for powerball, can I?

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 Posted: January 29, 2004, 1:00 am - IP Logged

the Quantum Mechanical Model of lottery prediction... early scientists working on atomic theory proposed some pretty novel ideas to their counterparts. i'm sure that at the time their peers treated them with more than skepticism. great thinkers such as JJ Thompson who discovered the electron, Niles Bohr who proposed the 'quantum model of the atom' i.e. that electrons in the atom are not free to travel in any orbit but are governed by the quantum theory. and Ernest Rutherford who showed that the atom has a positively charged nucleus and the electons are separated from the nucleus by relatively large distances. why am i mentioning these early atomic scientists in the lottery forum? well, after each scientist tried to construct precise theories explaining mathematically why atoms act in the way they do...it took a later scientist to look at all these various theories and come up with an explanation that was lacking in those previously mentioned. they were all trying to predict with certainty how the atom worked and how the charged particles related to one another. Bohr wanted to predict specific electron orbits and ran into trouble with atoms having larger atomic numbers. it took a man named Werner Heisenberg and his 'Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle' to show that it is really not possible to talk about specific electron orbits at all. here is the clincher and this might pertain to lottery prediction: since it is impossible to pinpoint the specific location of an orbiting electron, Heisenberg showed that it is only possible to predict the probability of an electron at a given instant in time. his work led to what we now all know as Quantum Mechanics. instead of limiting oneself, doesn't it seem more logical to treat the numbered lotto balls mixing within the drawing machine with a Quantum Mechanical approach? the Quantum Mechanical approach to lottery prediction would be slightly different than a statistical one in that it would be multi-dimensional as was the Heisenberg theory. it would go one step furthur than just looking at past draw numbers or numbers that are statistically due to be drawn. it would add an additional variable to the formula, very possibly hidden in patterns of performance of the equipment itself. we humans, as well as the lottery equipment are made up of atoms ie sub-atomic particles. no matter how hard they may try, all numbered lottery balls are not created equal. could the lottery follow the theory of Quantum Mechanics as do the electrons that make up these machines and numbered balls? certainly. could we be missing a simple prediction element such as the fact that all particles have wave like characteristics? French physicist Louis de Broglie stated as early as 1924 that all matter possesses wave characteristics. could the innate differences give us an additional missing variable that we have not yet identified allowing us a multi-dimensional Quantum approach that could predict the probabilities at a given moment in time? probably so.

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 Posted: January 29, 2004, 1:45 pm - IP Logged

Good stuff!

"at a given instant in time".... good point, most lottery "systems" miss the temporal component completely...

"a multi-dimensional Quantum approach"... all well and good, but first the dimensions need to be defined.

statistics are static... maybe something more dynamic needs to be added to the mix...

Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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