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How to Win Mass. Numbers Game?

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Posted: May 26, 2004, 9:13 pm - IP Logged

Can someone familiar with Massachusetts Numbers Game either post or send me a PM with details about all the ways to win?

The Mass. Web site is pitifully woeful, and does not provide a clue. 

 

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    be happy to Todd,hope I get them all

    all 4 exact all 4 any-first 3 exact-first 3 any last 3 exact-last 3 any-first 2 exact-first 2 any-last 2 exact-last 2 any. I am not sure about single bets as I do not have one of the cards in front of me. Maybe someone can add to it or correct me for any errors.

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      Posted: May 26, 2004, 9:35 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks retxx.  Do you know how much the payout is for each one of those combos?  Is it fixed or pari-mutuel?

       

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        it varies,as the amount of money bet for the day.

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          According to the Mass Web site, the combos are:



          Exact 4 Exact 3 Exact 2 Exact 1 All 4 Any First 3 Any Last 3 Any

          Based on this chart, I would read that the exact 3, 2, and 1 could be any position.

          For example, if the numbers drawn were 1-2-3-4, I could win an "exact 1" bet with 5-6-3-8 because the 3 matched the third position.  Similarly, I could win an "exact 2" with 9-2-3-0.  Am I right?

          The "first 3 any" and "last 3 any" would seem like the first 3 numbers in your pick would match in any order with the first 3 digits of the drawn 4-digit number in any order, right?

          Also, they don't seem to have the "first 2 any", "last 2 any", etc.

          The Mass Web site is pretty pitiful, so hopefully you can clear this up for me.  Thanks!

           

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            Hi Todd tomorrow I will get a card and read it over for clarification and get back to you. In the meantime I was hoping because of your question that you might have found someone with a system that could beat the Mass. daily number game. lol just kidding or am I. You never know do you. 

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              Actually, I'm just trying to write some program code to check for winning predictions for Mass. predictions.  I wish the lotteries wouldn't make the games so screwey.

              Thanks very much for the help!

               

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                All pari-mutuel.

                http://www.johnph77.com/math/stlot.html#mang

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                  Posted: May 26, 2004, 10:55 pm - IP Logged

                  John,

                  Can you answer my question in the post above in which I wrote a couple of example scenarios?

                   

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                    Todd, for the exact (1) digit, it has to match  in the exact position. It would be too easy to win if it were 1 exact in any position. There is no such thing as 1 digit any in the game. Also, the payouts in the Daily Numbers Game (being the pick 4, pick 3 midday and pick 3 eve all in one) are all pari-mutuel. Massachusetts condensed the pick three's and four game all together. I think it's easier to track than having three different game. Average payout for exact one digit is $5. Good nights the payout is $7 and bad nights is $5. Average for 3 different digit boxed is $100 (bad nights $70-$80, good nights, $130) Average for 3 digit w/a double $199-$200 (bad nights $150, good nights $259-$260). Exact three on a good night pays $700 (average is $550 bad nights $350-$400). Good nights for exact 4 is $6500-$7000 (average is $5000). I'd say it's much better than playing fixed states that pays $500 for exact 3's and $80 for boxed 3 differents. If you know when people are going to play more (=more money in pool+most need to lose for your own advantage), then you have an edge. When you have a winning ticket, you can end up losing money though on those rare occasions (if you play mulitple tickets, ie: wheel numbers etc.), such as New Year's Eve Dec. 31, 2001 I believe almost everyone played the numbers 2002. The payout was almost nothing (2 figure payout for a 4 digit exact match LOL).

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                      Based on this chart, I would read that the exact 3, 2, and 1 could be any position.

                      For example, if the numbers drawn were 1-2-3-4, I could win an "exact 1" bet with 5-6-3-8 because the 3 matched the third position.  Similarly, I could win an "exact 2" with 9-2-3-0.  Am I right?

                      Good luck!
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                      Todd, you are correct. I misunderstood you.
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                        Todd -

                        You would be a winner if you had selected ONLY the 3 in the third position. If you selected 5638 on your ticket you would have played the 4-number game with the appropriate payouts. If you had wanted to play the 3 in the third position that is what your ticket would indicate, and would be the only bet on that ticket.

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                          Quote: Originally posted by Todd on May 26, 2004



                          According to the Mass Web site, the combos are:



                          Exact 4 Exact 3 Exact 2 Exact 1 All 4 Any First 3 Any Last 3 Any

                          Based on this chart, I would read that the exact 3, 2, and 1 could be any position.

                          For example, if the numbers drawn were 1-2-3-4, I could win an "exact 1" bet with 5-6-3-8 because the 3 matched the third position.  Similarly, I could win an "exact 2" with 9-2-3-0.  Am I right?--RIGHT

                          The "first 3 any" and "last 3 any" would seem like the first 3 numbers in your pick would match in any order with the first 3 digits of the drawn 4-digit number in any order, right?--RIGHT

                          Also, they don't seem to have the "first 2 any", "last 2 any", etc.

                          The Mass Web site is pretty pitiful, so hopefully you can clear this up for me.  Thanks!




                          Exact numbers must match exact digits.Any numbers must be in any numbers
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                            Todd all the way`s you have said are true but the 2digit have to be exact . They are all different bets you have a pick 3/4 ticket to bet with or a 1/2 ticket to fill out. They all use the same 4 numbers drawn unlike N.H that draws 3 balls then 4 different balls.Lots of ways to win but you must bet it.You could just play say the 3rd number exact only if you wanted or the first 2 exact.Just a way to get you to spend more. jef

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                              Quote: Originally posted by mach1 on May 27, 2004


                              Todd all the way`s you have said are true but the 2digit have to be exact . They are all different bets you have a pick 3/4 ticket to bet with or a 1/2 ticket to fill out. They all use the same 4 numbers drawn unlike N.H that draws 3 balls then 4 different balls.Lots of ways to win but you must bet it.You could just play say the 3rd number exact only if you wanted or the first 2 exact.Just a way to get you to spend more. jef



                              OH, that may be a problem.  Maybe, for the purposes of comparing to other games here, we should just treat Mass Numbers as a Pick 4 game, and forget about all the other bets.

                              What does everyone think?

                               

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