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Which is more important to you?

Amount of hits predictor has in certain period.

[ 14 ]

[ 31.1% ]

Prize amounts assessed to predictor.

[ 7 ]

[ 15.6% ]

Follow certain predictor anyway, will hit soon.

[ 3 ]

[ 6.7% ]

Use forum more because of detailed discussions.

[ 6 ]

[ 13.3% ]

Go with whoever's hot at the time.

[ 6 ]

[ 13.3% ]

None of the above.

[ 9 ]

[ 20.0% ]

Total valid votes

[ 45 ]

Discarded votes

[ 10 ]

NBey6

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Jul 23, 2004, 6:20 pm

Just want to know your opin

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121, 126, 221, 306, 312, 427, 430, 519, 615, 616, 730, 807

918, 923, 0918, 1007, 1011, 1031, 1125, 1206, 1216, 1228
NoLuckYet

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Jul 23, 2004, 8:09 pm

I think I'd use the discussion forum because of the amount of info available there. Thanks.
four4me

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Jul 23, 2004, 8:30 pm

straight picks that hit

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
Colin F

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Jul 23, 2004, 9:03 pm

None of those.
Look at the Prize Ratio in particular noting how much has been spent for a given Lotto Game Type then compare it with what is achieved by Random Selections. In the thread Interpreting Prediction Statistics I have given the range for spending $600 and $5000 using Random Selections for Pick3.
In due course I will post examples for Pick 4.
If the results fall within the ambit achieved by random selections then you can't claim to have bettered them.
Colin
Rick G

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Jul 23, 2004, 10:32 pm

I didn't vote, although I tend to agree with the Profit option.
But Todd has filter options for specific games and players which gives a truer image of results.
A lucky hit in a jackpot game doesn't necessarily make you a good predictor.

Posted 4/6: IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit: 555, 347 (str8).
plumbusa

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Jul 24, 2004, 1:40 am

i'm
Todd

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Jul 24, 2004, 2:02 am

Hopefully this poll doesn't foster the idea that people should use either the forum or the predictions board. They are designed as complementary tools that are best used together. A good player learns the strengths and abilities of both tools and combines them to his/her advantage.

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LAVERNE MALONEY

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Jul 24, 2004, 4:16 am

HIGH 5 TODD, HIGH 5.
I believe it's like this.This is how I see it, when you are in the basement of a bank the vault is usually in the very back. To open the vault it takes just one key, (in the lottery the winning number). But to get to that one key (the winning number) you have to have the right tools, the right lottery tools, at least 2 or 3 (most lock combinations are at least 3 numbers) when you use these tools together they will open the entrance door to the vault. When you have the winning number that is your key to the vault. !$!$ Now get the goods and scram. :-)

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Jul 24, 2004, 4:52 pm

Quote: O

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
JAP69

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Jul 24, 2004, 5:06 pm

Choosing random selections is not rocket science. Put together 10 to 20 selections in a defined systematic order and it is possible to get hits.

Numbers are where you find them.
four4me

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Jul 24, 2004, 6:02 pm

i know somebody that buys a quick pick 3 digit everday one for the midday and one for evening. been playing them for years she won, nada, zip, zilch, nuthing. If she had picked any other number like a birth date or something of that nature she would have won about ten times. When i see her and ask did she win on here quick pic she says no but my daughters birtday hit my son, husband etc etc. When i ask why don't you play some of the family numbers she say i perfer quick picks. my reply prefer them to what loosing money and sulking because one of your personal numbers hit. She replys a quick pick is as good as any other number. Yea i replied if it wins. For the life of me i can see why people buy these things most of them favor the house many of them contain 2 numbers from the last draw and although sometimes two numbers will come in the next draw very rarely will the third number be there for the win.

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
Colin F

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Jul 25, 2004, 4:00 am

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on July 24, 2004

Choosing random selections is not rocket science. Put together 10 to 20 selections in a defined systematic order and it is possible to get hits.

JP
I'm sure I'm missing something here. I don't disagree with either statement but I can't see the connection between them since the second is not an elaboration on the first.
Colin
JAP69

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Jul 25, 2004, 9:40 am

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on July 25, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on July 24, 2004

Choosing random selections is not rocket science. Put together 10 to 20 selections in a defined systematic order and it is possible to get hits.

JP
I'm sure I'm missing something here. I don't disagree with either statement but I can't see the connection between them since the second is not an elaboration on the first.
Colin

To add to the below posting I generally create numbers that hit
most frequently which contains the lowest digit. Depending on
the amount of plays you are creating I balance the amount of numbers with
the lowest digit contained in a number. If I were doing ten plays
I would have 3 with digit 0, 3 with digit 1, 2 with digit 2,
1 with digit3 and 1 that contains a 4 or higher with the lowest
digit.
at the bottom of the page you will see the combos. As you see the higher
you go in your combos the fewer numbers there are that contain the
lowest digit.

These selections are chosen with no data research. Only from what
you see here as I posted it under the title.
easy pencil and paper system

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This is an easy system I used for many years and still do.
List your drawn numbers in your state box order as I have them here for south Carolina.

south carolina
089 129 236 334 468 569 679
034 159 259 389 558
025 124 267 567
077 124 245
048 125 235
014 118
017

mix your digits in the columns
037-047-015-038-145-128-256-568 etc
Jump last two digits in a column to another
114-148-145-224-225-367-345 etc
jump the first two digits to another column
012-024-123-238-233-455 etc
make as few or as many as you want and pick your
favorite straight position. play your list as
long as you want or update when you want.
I have found many hits this way thru the years.
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Quote: Originally posted by jap69 on December 26, 2003
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Quote: Originally posted by jap69 on December 20, 2003
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Quote: Originally posted by jap69 on December 14, 2003
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This is an easy system I used for many years and still do.
List your drawn numbers in your state box order as I have them here for south Carolina.

south carolina
089 129 236 334 468 569 679
034 159 259 389 558
025 124 267 567
077 124 245
048 125 235
014 118
017

mix your digits in the columns
037-047-015-038-145-128-256-568 etc
Jump last two digits in a column to another
114-148-145-224-225-367-345 etc
jump the first two digits to another column
012-024-123-238-233-455 etc
make as few or as many as you want and pick your
favorite straight position. play your list as
long as you want or update when you want.
I have found many hits this way thru the years.
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225-12/17
470-12/18
821-12/20
415-12/26
123-12/28
HMMMMMMMMMMM

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5 hits 14 days to 12/28 eve

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and I was looking for all odds tonight the 28th.And the consecutives were overdue and did not play them
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________box combos
_0_ _1_ _2_ _3_ _4_ _5_ _6_ _7_ _8_ _9_
000 111 222 333 444 555 666 777 888 999
001 112 223 334 445 556 667 778 889
002 113 224 335 446 557 668 779 899
003 114 225 336 447 558 669 788
004 115 226 337 448 559 677 789
005 116 227 338 449 566 678 799
006 117 228 339 455 567 679
007 118 229 344 456 568 688
008 119 233 345 457 569 689
009 122 234 346 458 577 699
011 123 235 347 459 578
012 124 236 348 466 579
013 125 237 349 467 588
014 126 238 355 468 589
015 127 239 356 469 599
016 128 244 357 477
017 129 245 358 478
018 133 246 359 479
019 134 247 366 488
022 135 248 367 489
023 136 249 368 499
024 137 255 369
025 138 256 377
026 139 257 378
027 144 258 379
028 145 259 388
029 146 266 389
033 147 267 399
034 148 268
035 149 269
036 155 277
037 156 278
038 157 279
039 158 288
044 159 289
045 166 299
046 167
047 168
048 169
049 177
055 178
056 179
057 188
058 189
059 199
066
067
068
069
077
078
079
088
089
099

Numbers are where you find them.
Rick G

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Jul 25, 2004, 5:44 pm

Couple of good points in here.
If you have 1 - 2 favorite digits for your pick, then that is the time to use a RNG and I don't mean your computer RNG.
Good source is random .com which is based on atmospheric noise, or if you have access to Cesium 21, it has the most random half-life of any radioative materials or anthing that I've heard of.
Handle with care though...lol

Posted 4/6: IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit: 555, 347 (str8).
Colin F

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Jul 25, 2004, 6:42 pm

JP
I still don't see the connection.
Let me spell it out to you. If you are doing something systematic it is not random. It is the opposite of random. Randomness as in emulating the results of physical balls is not easily achieved and certainly not by your standard text book bit of code. The numbers you are suggesting would not be random.
I'm not at this stage advocating that a Pick 3 Player use Random Selections. I know from my experience with the Pick 6 and PowerBall games that Random Selections is a formidable adversary and most Systems on the market do not beat it. I'm quite happy to test anyones' system if they beg to differ.
The information I gave on the results of running Pick 3 using RANDOM SELECTIONS in the Enterpreting Prediction Statistics thread was to thwart any jumping up and down by winners who thought the were doing better than RANDOM SELECTIONS. The wide divergence in the results I found interesting and I'm sure a few others did too.
I'm currently working on Pick 4 which I hope will have a tighter set of results. You may care to note a difference in style. Instead of proclaiming I have the best system in the world I set up a mechanism for testing whatever I do and then look at how the opposition is doing ie Random Selections.
Colin
PS Congratulations to Lance Armstrong from the USA and a son of Texas for his amazing 6th consecutive win of the Tour de France. Congratulations too to Aussie Roddy McKewen for the green jersey, the best sprinter.

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