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Winning lottery ticket purchased with stolen credit card

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bellyache's avatar - 64x64a9wg

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Posted: November 1, 2005, 6:46 pm - IP Logged

I am awake, I am not afraid, I do understand and I think you have issues with the police or a bit of paranoia. The article was about a woman who used a stolen credit card to purchase lottery tickets which she then won on. That is what the article is about. It is not about the police taking her winnings and pocketing the profits for themselves. She's guilty the police are not.

Dance like no one is watching.

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    Posted: November 1, 2005, 7:47 pm - IP Logged

    I am awake, I am not afraid, I do understand and I think you have issues with the police or a bit of paranoia. The article was about a woman who used a stolen credit card to purchase lottery tickets which she then won on. That is what the article is about. It is not about the police taking her winnings and pocketing the profits for themselves. She's guilty the police are not.

    Well said.

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      Posted: November 1, 2005, 8:22 pm - IP Logged

      I have no paranoia doctor, I am only referring to the article where it stated that the Police said that the lady would not be able to keep her winnings, and where they were looking for the initial installment she had claimed.  I was a victim many years ago with a corrupt Police Officer who threw me threw a glass window and attempted steal my ring on my finger.  People put too much trust in them, and give them too much authority today.  It was very wrong for that woman to steal by using someone else's credit card, but it is also very wrong for the people that we put our trust in and pay through our tax dollars to be corrupt and think they have the final say about everything.  In any case, sticking to the facts, the woman was wrong to do what she did, but once again, the final say as to whether she is to keep the money is up to the Lottery Commission, who by the way is not speaking up.  Have the Police also hushed them up?  Perhaps I am too honest for these times.  I expect everyone and every situation to be on the up and up, and that is just not possible.  Everyone in America claims to be honest, most are all good Christians who go to Church every week, but I would love to see what these self claimed good people would do if they found that ticket.  Money rules in America.

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        Posted: November 1, 2005, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

        gargil: The world is not a nice place. Unhappy experiences do not a life make - unless that is all your life is. Everything you see wrong in life is a mirror, simple and true. happens. Grow up and quit whining.

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          Posted: November 2, 2005, 1:29 am - IP Logged

          If someone wants to steal my credit card and buy a winning powerball or MM ticket they are welcome to do so. I'm sure I could get a lawyer to get the money since I paid for the ticket. only reason the cops are getting away with it is it's not a lot of money and the card holder is dead. If it were me i'd fight all the way to the supreme court for a powerball win then sue for the costs of collection plus triple damages (could get expensive on a powerball win)

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            Posted: November 2, 2005, 7:00 am - IP Logged

            BRAVO DvDiva!

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              Posted: November 2, 2005, 9:28 am - IP Logged

              If someone wants to steal my credit card and buy a winning powerball or MM ticket they are welcome to do so. I'm sure I could get a lawyer to get the money since I paid for the ticket. only reason the cops are getting away with it is it's not a lot of money and the card holder is dead. If it were me i'd fight all the way to the supreme court for a powerball win then sue for the costs of collection plus triple damages (could get expensive on a powerball win)

              You obviously neglected to read the article.  Your position is based on the mindless rantings of "gargil" about a non-existent Police State. 

               

              The cops got away with nothing; there was nothing to get away with.  They are only investigating the incident.  The article is about a woman using a dead person’s credit card. You, therefore, would be dead, and would sue no one for using your credit card. 

               

              Supreme Court? Get your head out your ... hummm ...  lets say, out of the clouds.  Less then a thousandth of the cases brought to any court make it beyond the local district court.  Do a minimum amount of research and read the number of cases the Supreme Court heard the last session. The small numbers shows the folly of your words.  You obviously missed the course on U.S. Government.

               

               

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                Posted: November 2, 2005, 1:36 pm - IP Logged

                The cops got away with nothing; there was nothing to get away with.  They are only investigating the incident.  The article is about a woman using a dead person’s credit card. You, therefore, would be dead, and would sue no one for using your credit card. 

                Exactly! There was no mention of bad police conduct anywhere in that article. It was just about a woman commiting fraud. I really don't see how this got turned on to the people investigating this women. lol.

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                  Posted: November 2, 2005, 3:18 pm - IP Logged

                  all of you need to get YOUR heads out of the clouds.  I nor anyone else said that the article mentioned police misconduct.  Now you people are putting words in my mouth (a habit of the police).  I simply made a statement that the police do not have the final say.  They DO NOT make the laws.  They are SUPPOSSED to enforce them.  I also was curios as to why they were looking for the first installment.  What for?    I realize most people have lots to hide so they keep their mouths shut and do not express their true feelings.  Too bad.  Go watch your sports and drink your beer and just let whole country go down the toilet.   I know all of you folks out there wish you had a winning ticket just like that lady that bought hers with the credit card. 

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                    Posted: November 2, 2005, 3:49 pm - IP Logged

                    Gargil:

                    Question, what have you done to make this a better country? I am really curious to know what you have done to prevent it going down the toilet. I can be wrong, but you've given no indication that you have done anything. So far, all I see are rantings of an unstable person.

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                      Posted: November 2, 2005, 4:33 pm - IP Logged

                      You know gargil I'm done with this. You're the one who claimed that the police were up to no good from your first post. You made that claim. Obviously, you think this woman who used a stolen credit card to purchase a winning lottery ticket deserves to keep it, whether or not she is a thief. That's your opinion. You want to rant about the police or whatever and "claim" they stole her money...fine. But I'm not going to debate over something that you don't have any proof of. Did you ever think for a moment that the police were just looking for the first installment as evidence? There are other options beside that the government is out to get you. And don't think for a moment that you are superior to anyone else on this board. There are a lot of good people here who do more then drink beer and watch sports. You do not have a window into everyone elses lives. For all I know, you could be nothing more then a drunk.

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                        Posted: November 11, 2005, 8:03 pm - IP Logged

                        As long as it is legal in her state to use a credit card to purchase the ticket, then she will certainly have a great lawsuit if they refuse her the money.  She will get much more than a million!  Even though she was breaking the law with the use of the card, and she may have other problems like drug use, that has nothing to do with winning the money.  She was smart enough not to keep her first winning installment in the house, the Cops would have probably pocketed it when they searched her house.  Good for her!  Hope she winds up in the end with ten million! 

                        You seem to be a bit confused. If somebody throws away a winning ticket and somebody else finds it and claims the prize the law may be a bit vague about ownership, but the law is crystal clear when somebody buys something with a stolen credit card. If you buy something with a stolen credit card you don't own it. Period. If she's convicted of illegally using the card then she doesn't own the ticket or anything else she bought with the card, and if you don't own a lottery ticket there's not a chance in hell you're entitled to any prize  based on that ticket. If she's not convicted then she might get the money.  About the only safe bet in this story is that she doesn't have much of a case for a lawsuit based on anything reported in the story.

                        I agree. If the credit card is not legit, neither is the purchase. On the other hand, our court system has been so upside down that I wouldn't be surprised if someone finds a loophole. Remember "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit" ??  So maybe her lawyer can come up with a catchy phrase.  I know this is unrelated, but in FL there was a rally a few weeks ago where sex offenders protested over "their" rights being violated.  (puke)  The group is called the Sex Offender Support and Education Network. So ya never know.

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                          Posted: November 12, 2005, 8:00 am - IP Logged

                          Ever notice, those weirdoes tend to not protest in the heartland?

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