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Penn. woman sues for share of winning lottery ticket

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Posted: April 2, 2006, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

" I heartedly appreciate and respect your past situation, and in a mnner of speaking, if I may say so that young man was a deadbeat. He used you to make his life better. And, didn't actually deserve anything from the divorce, outside of 'his copies of the divorce papers. "

 

Hi, Libra!  I probably shouldn't have posted that personal story, because there's a lot more to it, which is what I was trying to say about the article. We were both young and foolish, although I was much more responsible with money. (most people were) He did work, but we spent a lot on partying and travel. Actually this "deadbeat" became a very successful businessman after we broke up. (go figure!) I didn't even know what happened to him until I read some articles online 20 years later. (so don't ever play around with names on Google..ya never know what you'll find!)  A couple of years ago I worked for a company that processed car loans. There weren't enough hours in the day to call the thousands of people who applied online, and most of them had horrible credit and were happy to get 24% interest. I understand what it's like to get into a rut (I'm in one now!) but some of these people had high incomes (some were 6 figures) yet they had $50,000 in credit card debt and wanted to finance a BMW.  That's when I really learned that being irresponsible with finances is very common in this society.  Some people have no choice and just run into some bad luck, a layoff or illness, but others just "live for today" and don't do the math. Anyway, if what we are reading about this situation is true, then I agree the roommate deserves half, especially since I would have been in her predicament!! LOL

Happy Sunday afternoon Libra and JXP, two of my favorite people as well.....How's things ??

The roomates should split the money and then " break up " if that's what it takes.    Move on....Life is way too short.

The poster that said that he would not give a penny to hisor her  family- to each his own, but I assure you if/when I get a windfall, I personally cannot wait to see the looks on my kids and both sets of my parents faces !

Priceless. At least I want it to be...

DD 

 

 

                               

              

 

 

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    Posted: April 2, 2006, 4:24 pm - IP Logged

    "As it was "debited money" her roomate would have never known."

     

    Any transaction can be traced, whether debit or credit. The card is swiped through the machine and when the transactions are batched at the end of the day, a report lists the card number, the amount and the date/time of the transaction. The statement doesn't say what the purchase is for, just like when you get a credit card statement, but I use my debit card all the time at the supermarket and Walgreen's and it appears on my bank statement. It would be hard to prove what the purchase was if that's what you're saying, but I think the roommate would still have a good case showing that a purchase was made at that location/time with her card. If she really wanted to be sneaky, she should have used an ATM and withdrawn cash and then made the ticket purchase. But of course she didn't know she was going to win!!

    The roomates should split the money and then " break up " if that's what it takes.    Move on....Life is way too short.

    Agree.  People never understood why I packed up and moved away, but you just put it into a few words.

    "The poster that said that he would not give a penny to hisor her  family- to each his own, but I assure you if/when I get a windfall, I personally cannot wait to see the looks on my kids and both sets of my parents faces !"

    Want to adopt a 55 year old woman DD?  I'm available if you need a sister.

    Smile

     

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      Posted: April 2, 2006, 4:39 pm - IP Logged

      " I heartedly appreciate and respect your past situation, and in a mnner of speaking, if I may say so that young man was a deadbeat. He used you to make his life better. And, didn't actually deserve anything from the divorce, outside of 'his copies of the divorce papers. "

       

      Hi, Libra!  I probably shouldn't have posted that personal story, because there's a lot more to it, which is what I was trying to say about the article. We were both young and foolish, although I was much more responsible with money. (most people were) He did work, but we spent a lot on partying and travel. Actually this "deadbeat" became a very successful businessman after we broke up. (go figure!) I didn't even know what happened to him until I read some articles online 20 years later. (so don't ever play around with names on Google..ya never know what you'll find!)  A couple of years ago I worked for a company that processed car loans. There weren't enough hours in the day to call the thousands of people who applied online, and most of them had horrible credit and were happy to get 24% interest. I understand what it's like to get into a rut (I'm in one now!) but some of these people had high incomes (some were 6 figures) yet they had $50,000 in credit card debt and wanted to finance a BMW.  That's when I really learned that being irresponsible with finances is very common in this society.  Some people have no choice and just run into some bad luck, a layoff or illness, but others just "live for today" and don't do the math. Anyway, if what we are reading about this situation is true, then I agree the roommate deserves half, especially since I would have been in her predicament!! LOL

      HAPPY SUNDAY...."JUST"....4/2/2006

      I am currently working on my finances, holding them much closer than I did a few years ago. Learning to make my own 'safety net'.....stronger than it is.

      As for this story, you know it's strikes me how vulnerable we all are, when we give our trust, loyalty and even love to another human being.  When we are so happy w/that other person that we try to make life as comfy as possible, even financially. I empathize w/the owner of that 'debit card'...I really do. It's probably better that they broke apart at this juncture, because one never knows what might happen later(financially) if this episode hadn't shown her true colors. Imagaine, a scenario, your 'debit card' being used to purchase very expensive items, and the person doing this doesn't tell you about it, and you are somehwere else, also trying to make purchases, at the same time.  But, your itmes are denied..........something to think about......

      Thinking of...

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        "As it was "debited money" her roomate would have never known."

         

        Any transaction can be traced, whether debit or credit. The card is swiped through the machine and when the transactions are batched at the end of the day, a report lists the card number, the amount and the date/time of the transaction. The statement doesn't say what the purchase is for, just like when you get a credit card statement, but I use my debit card all the time at the supermarket and Walgreen's and it appears on my bank statement. It would be hard to prove what the purchase was if that's what you're saying, but I think the roommate would still have a good case showing that a purchase was made at that location/time with her card. If she really wanted to be sneaky, she should have used an ATM and withdrawn cash and then made the ticket purchase. But of course she didn't know she was going to win!!

        The roomates should split the money and then " break up " if that's what it takes.    Move on....Life is way too short.

        Agree.  People never understood why I packed up and moved away, but you just put it into a few words.

        "The poster that said that he would not give a penny to hisor her  family- to each his own, but I assure you if/when I get a windfall, I personally cannot wait to see the looks on my kids and both sets of my parents faces !"

        Want to adopt a 55 year old woman DD?  I'm available if you need a sister.

        Smile

         

        Sure JXP, since I don't already have a sister. I'm the oldest of 4 males in my family and always wondered how things would have turned out if I had a sis.....

         

         

         

         

         

                                       

                      

         

         

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          "now, ACRO....isn't  that some what antagonistic and selfish?...Don't you have a loving relationship w/anyone in your family.....maybe your Brother or sister, or a Cousin?? anyone??"

           

          It's not selfish to say anything, it's what you do that matters. If I tell everyone I'm giving them nothing, then if I give them all 1 million, where is my error? It's after the fact they cannot sue you and use your words against you? Ahhh, see, but I can still give it. There is nothing selfish about loving people and wanting the best for them without throwing money at them.  Do you think Jack Whittacker(sp) loved his granddaughter more than I love my family just becasue he gave her money. Isn't it the money that killed her? The money she used to buy drugs she NEVER would of had if Jack didn't just throw money at his family. How about if he spent time with her versus the time he wasted at the strip clubs? Ahhh, maybe his love and time would have helped his granddaughter but his money NEVER would of. The biggest mistake anyone of us in here could make is throwing money at our family. They don't need our money, they need our love and attention and many other things but they can survive without our money. Plenty of people in this world live with very little money. I feel it would be selfish to throw money on a problem because you might just create more problems. I feel the selfish person is the one who uses money to solve problems, the person the defines love with money, they two terms to not blend. So, just so you know and the rest of the world knows it I stand behind my first comment 100%. I love my family too much to throw money at them, they get no free money from me but with that kind of money I can create many opportunities for them to earn money that they would have never had before the winning. That's the only thing I want also if one of my family wins, I just would ask them to help me improve some things in life while working at it, not for free. Cheers,

           

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            "As it was "debited money" her roomate would have never known."

             

            Any transaction can be traced, whether debit or credit. The card is swiped through the machine and when the transactions are batched at the end of the day, a report lists the card number, the amount and the date/time of the transaction. The statement doesn't say what the purchase is for, just like when you get a credit card statement, but I use my debit card all the time at the supermarket and Walgreen's and it appears on my bank statement. It would be hard to prove what the purchase was if that's what you're saying, but I think the roommate would still have a good case showing that a purchase was made at that location/time with her card. If she really wanted to be sneaky, she should have used an ATM and withdrawn cash and then made the ticket purchase. But of course she didn't know she was going to win!!

            The roomates should split the money and then " break up " if that's what it takes.    Move on....Life is way too short.

            Agree.  People never understood why I packed up and moved away, but you just put it into a few words.

            "The poster that said that he would not give a penny to hisor her  family- to each his own, but I assure you if/when I get a windfall, I personally cannot wait to see the looks on my kids and both sets of my parents faces !"

            Want to adopt a 55 year old woman DD?  I'm available if you need a sister.

            Smile

             

            4/7/2006

            HI "Just"....Wink

            the point I was making is that, as it's actually money being deducted directly from your checking account, it would most likely be overlooked, especially because she can't use a bank check to pay for the tickets. Most people using debit cards to make purchases on small items don't hold onto receipts from the clerk, and her room mate wouldn't be prompted to contact her bank about it, because even when the Detailed bank statement comes in the mail, as the purchase is small, it's primarily overlooked. All it says on the statement is 'debit'. I maintain, that if you don't want someone to know how you spent the money, don't annouce it, especially for lottery tickets. You can ususally get away w/small items, costing under $30.00.

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              If plaintiff can establish: joint venture, joint undertaking, joint enterprise, or joint adventure; and the proceeds or winnings from the lotto ticket were the results or profits from that joint undertaking, than plaintiff shares the winnings.

              Additionally, if I were plaintiff, and if I can establish that,

              - respondent absconded with the winnings (which were actually proceeds from the joint undertaking);

              - with the intention of not sharing the proceeds with me (which tantamounts to fraud);

              then, I would ask the court that 100% of the proceeds and all accrued interests thereon, be awarded to me, and nothing to respondent.

              That would teach respondent and her ilk not to be greedy.

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                Hi Libra,

                Ha, ha, ha, "Bloodsucking leeches". That put a smile on my face. Hope you're having a nice day.

                csfb

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                  Hi Libra,

                  Ha, ha, ha, "Bloodsucking leeches". That put a smile on my face. Hope you're having a nice day.

                  csfb

                  4/4/2006

                  and thanks for saying so my friend.........yes, as I actually like my work, to varying degrees, I did have a very productive day and the Sunshine certainly helped....

                  Razz