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US House votes to kill Internet gambling

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takeitez's avatar - japheth
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Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:02 am - IP Logged

However, the lottery exemption wasn't in the bill back in 2000. If it had been, Abramoff's client probably would have backed the bill. Online lotteries are exempted this time around at the behest of states.

Taken from the article at the beginning of this thread

ez

          No Pity!Guitar  Drum ........ in the long run........

    konane's avatar - wallace
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    Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:02 am - IP Logged

    i also found this.....


    Internet Gambling Bill Won't Pass Senate

    Monday, July 10, 2006 5:43:47 AM ET
    Dow Jones Newswires



    0826 GMT [Dow Jones] The possibility of a combined Leach and Goodlatte bill on internet gambling getting through both the House of Representatives and the Senate during the current Congress is very slim, says an analyst. Reckons both Leach's and Goodlatte's bill will be combined with the earliest likely House of Representatives vote taking place July 10. Sees the bill passing through the House, a move which is expected by investors. But with only around 7-8 weeks left of Congress after that the bill is unlikely to be able to progress given the tight end of Congress legislation timetable in the Senate. PartyGaming (PRTY.LN) trades -0.5% at 107.5p, 888 (888.LN) unchanged at 208p. (DWE)



    Talking heads say anything to capture a headline so they can gloat if they called it correctly ........

    It's not over until the fat lady sings, and to anyone who has any interest in this bill I suggest you email, call your congress persons or take whatever slop they decide to dish out when special interests finish with them.

    Good luck to everyone!

      takeitez's avatar - japheth
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      Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:11 am - IP Logged

      Online lotteries are allowed in the latest bill, largely at the behest of states that increasingly rely on lotteries to augment tax revenues.

      From CBS news.


      ez

                No Pity!Guitar  Drum ........ in the long run........

        LOTTOMIKE's avatar - cash money.jpg
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        Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:11 am - IP Logged

        However, the lottery exemption wasn't in the bill back in 2000. If it had been, Abramoff's client probably would have backed the bill. Online lotteries are exempted this time around at the behest of states.

        Taken from the article at the beginning of this thread

        ez

        i might be wrong.correct me if i am.they are talking about state lotteries.however online lotteries that you bet on that are offshore where you bet on all states will be outlawed.

          takeitez's avatar - japheth
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          Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:19 am - IP Logged

          When asked one such site replied" we do not run a lotto. We allow you to wager on what the number will be in the state run lotto."

          ez

                    No Pity!Guitar  Drum ........ in the long run........

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            Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:22 am - IP Logged

            When asked one such site replied" we do not run a lotto. We allow you to wager on what the number will be in the state run lotto."

            ez

            i wish we could get away with it but they will make sure no matter what that they are all shut down.i hope it doesn't happen......

              takeitez's avatar - japheth
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              Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:26 am - IP Logged

              They shut down drugs, didn't they?

              ez

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                Posted: July 12, 2006, 8:28 am - IP Logged

                When did these big whigs worry about us poor working class people loosing our life savings,I don't think they worried to much when Enron and it's big shots really took all of it's employees life savings, then find Ken Lay Guilty and he conventiely died before he could be sentenced or did he,makes you wonder don't it,could work like the witness protection program I guess.

                Saleo Paleo    

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                  Posted: July 12, 2006, 9:47 am - IP Logged

                  LOTTOMIKE,

                  When people like YOU start thinking of Americans as "US" instead of as "we" and "them", this country might become a better place.

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                    Posted: July 12, 2006, 10:14 am - IP Logged

                        Good to hear that.  I was afraid that the government might have threatened to shut you down, too. 

                        The government we have now is worse than anything the British "oppressed" us with in 1776.  We currently pay 40% of our income to state, local and federal entities.  We can't afford gasoline, we can't afford food for our children and we are under constant scrutiny by the rising security state.  If the American people don't stand up and condemn this current regime, we should apologize to King George III.  He just imposed a small tax on tea to help defray the cost of fighting the French in the French and Indian War!  Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Madison and Adams are spinning in their graves!!!

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                    AMEN Brother Orangeman!!

                    The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

                    Stooges

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                      Posted: July 12, 2006, 10:17 am - IP Logged

                      Getting away from ragging on our genious founding fathers, and back to the discussion at hand, here a link to the interesting article Emily mentioned: http://www.nydailynews.com/07-11-2006/business/story/434155p-365775c.html

                      I think this is very interesting....in my soul, I don't think it will pass. Not to mention the ISPs stand to lose a lot of money from unhappy customers. Which will be an opportunity for an offshore ISP to start, make billions from those who wish to have freedom in their Internet browsing.

                      The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

                      Stooges

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                        Posted: July 12, 2006, 10:18 am - IP Logged

                        Everyone who keeps saying that lotteries and horse racing are allowed under the bill, STOP SAYING THAT.  Lotteries and horse racing are NOT included in the bill.

                        Re-read the article at the beginning of this thread.  It says:

                        Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa sponsored the bill. They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries.

                        Goodlatte called that "a poison pill amendment," aimed at defeating the larger bill.

                        By continuing to say that lotteries are exempted, you are giving false hope to people.

                         

                        Check the State Lottery Report Card
                        What grade did your lottery earn?

                         

                        Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                        Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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                          Posted: July 12, 2006, 10:19 am - IP Logged

                           From AOL poll today;congress should see this and follow the will of the people

                          How should Congress respond to Internet gambling?

                          Leave it alone50%
                          Regulate it29%
                          Outlaw it20%
                          Have you gambled online?
                          No59%
                          Yes, occasionally19%
                          Yes, frequently18%
                          Yes, just once4%

                          I find it very interesting that people who have never gambled online still think that it's okay...just by seeing the numbers.

                          The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

                          Stooges

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                            Posted: July 12, 2006, 10:20 am - IP Logged

                            That is another reason I think that it will be defeated, Todd...the horse racing and lottery lobby don't want this to be outlawed.

                            The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

                            Stooges

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                              Posted: July 12, 2006, 10:29 am - IP Logged

                              I was asked through private messaging about what happens next in the life of this bill.  I'm going to answer here so everyone can benefit.  For any questions that could benefit many people, I would prefer those questions to be posted in the forums, rather than thru PM.

                              At this point, the Senate will draft their own version of the bill, then they will debate it, and then vote on it.  If it passes, then representatives from the House and the Senate will meet and resolve any differences in the bills.  Then it goes to the President to sign.  The vast majority of bills get signed if they make it that far (President Bush has not issued a single veto so far).

                              Ways that the process can fail:

                              • The Senate does not act before the current session expires (in 6-7 weeks) 
                              • The Senate doesn't have enough "yes" votes to put the bill through
                              • The House and Senate cannot come to agreement on differences between their bills

                               

                               

                              Check the State Lottery Report Card
                              What grade did your lottery earn?

                               

                              Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                              Help eliminate computerized drawings!

                                 
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