Like with immigration, congress does the opposite of what the people want
The House passed legislation Tuesday that would prevent gamblers from using credit cards to bet online and could block access to gambling Web sites.
The legislation would clarify and update current law to spell out that most gambling is illegal online. But there would be exceptions - for state-run lotteries and horse racing - and passage isn't a safe bet in the Senate, where Republican leaders have not considered the measure a high priority.
The House voted 317-93 for the bill, which would allow authorities to work with Internet providers to block access to gambling Web sites.
Critics argued that regulating the $12 billion industry would be better than outlawing it. Said Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., "Prohibition didn't work for alcohol. It won't work for gambling."
The American Gaming Association, the industry's largest lobby, has opposed online gambling in the past but recently backed a study of the feasibility of regulating it.
The Internet gambling industry is headquartered almost entirely outside the United States, though about half its customers live in the U.S.
Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa sponsored the bill. They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries.
Goodlatte called that "a poison pill amendment," aimed at defeating the larger bill.
Supporters of the measure argued that Internet betting can be addictive and can lead people to lose their savings.
Leach said the problem is particularly acute for young people who are frequently on the Internet. "Never before has it been so easy to lose so much money so quickly at such a young age," he said.
Rep. Shelley Berkley (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., pushed for removal of the exemptions. She said it was unfair to allow online lotteries and Internet betting on horse racing to flourish while cracking down on other kinds of sports betting, casino games and card games like poker.
Supporters of Internet gambling agreed.
"They call it a prohibition. It's really Congress picking winners and losers," said Michael Bolcerek, president of the Poker Players Alliance, a San Francisco-based group that opposed the bill.
Congress has considered similar legislation in the past.
In 2000, disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff led a fierce campaign against it on behalf of an online lottery company. Supporters of the bill brought up that history Tuesday and suggested that a vote for the bill was a way to make a statement against Abramoff's influence.
However, the lottery exemption wasn't in the bill back in 2000. If it had been, Abramoff's client probably would have backed the bill. Online lotteries are exempted this time around at the behest of states.
Under the provision that relates to horse racing, betting operators would not be prohibited from any activity allowed under the Interstate Horseracing Act. That law was written in the 1970s to set up rules for interstate betting on racing. The industry successfully lobbied for legislation several years ago to clarify that horse racing over the Internet is allowed.
Greg Avioli, chief executive officer of the National Thoroughbred Racing Association, said the mention of horse racing in the bill is merely "a recognition of existing federal law."
Avioli said the racing industry has a strong future in the digital age and suggested the bill would send Internet gamblers to racing sites and away from the banned sites.
The Justice Department has taken a different view on the legality of Internet betting on horse races. In a World Trade Organization case involving Antigua, the department said online betting on horse racing remains illegal under the 1961 Wire Act despite the existence of the more recently passed, and updated, Interstate Horseracing Act.
The department hasn't actively enforced its stance.
Like the racing industry, professional sports leagues also like the bill. They argue that Web wagering could hurt the integrity of their sports.
Sen. Jon Kyl (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., is leading support for the ban in the Senate. The issue has not been debated in that chamber this year, and the measure hasn't been identified by Senate leaders as a top priority.
If the horse provision were stricken from the bill, there's a good chance the measure would run into objections from Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and others from racing states.
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
I agree with Todd's comment and I would like to add that whenever they push for something that the majority doesn't want, they are trying to move their agenda thru and usually something else is included in the bill that they aren't telling you!!!
Just remember, if they say left, they mean right and if they say stop, they mean go, if it should be good, it's bad and if it is wrong, it's right!!!
U.S. House of representives is full of a bunch of bastards who are trying to bastardize America into something pathetic. I can see it now no more gambling no more playboy no more beer no more cigars no more red meat. Hell they might as well give up their groceries while they are at it because they do not have any sacks to carry them in.-weshar75
I think it will pass the Senate. The same forces and lobbyists that got the bill to pass with such a big margin in the House are still on Capital Hill. They know where the Senate is located!!
Ok, so we can go to the casinos and spend what we want, the race tracks and blah, blah, and we can shop on-line with what-ever transfer of funds we choose, but..............oh, no, on-line gambling...what a damper...i agree with Todd!
we don't know what they're going to do, nor how fast can they actually do it! but as being in this lottery community, what can we do? i have voted against computerized drawings, most of us probably have, but what can we do?
get it while we can i know, but any other ideas! sensible ones i mean?
Yes, there are things everyone can do. Get all your friends and neighbors registered to vote. If your representatives are up for re-election, vote the sorry asses out. It's might be too late to stop them, but it will send a message to the Senate. Americans, for the last 30 years have not paid any attention what-so-ever to what their representatives are doing in Washington. That's why the sorry asses think and can, get away with anything. I doubt if 10% of them give a damn about individuals, it's their own agendas, they care about. They are right now talking about letting illegal immigrants draw Social Security.
Ok, so we can go to the casinos and spend what we want, the race tracks and blah, blah, and we can shop on-line with what-ever transfer of funds we choose, but..............oh, no, on-line gambling...what a damper...i agree with Todd!
we don't know what they're going to do, nor how fast can they actually do it! but as being in this lottery community, what can we do? i have voted against computerized drawings, most of us probably have, but what can we do?
get it while we can i know, but any other ideas! sensible ones i mean?
We will have to just bet our own states by buying tickets at the store. We can all continue posting our picks here on LP for others to choose who is doing well in their state. I don't like thinking that I can't bet Michigan Pick 3 any more, but if that is the law, I will abide by it. I don't like paying tax on my winnings, but I have found that betting Pick 3 str/box here in California is the way to go. If I think a number is going to hit, I play it str/box each way (usually a double, so 3-ways). If it does hit straight, I get 3 or 6 very nice payouts and each ticket is under $600!! No tax.
I'm so glad people can experience the joys that those of us in WA state have been feeling. And yes they can also stop ALL gambling sites including this one. For those that think "that won't affect me" and visit this site they are very wrong.
You know things are screwed up when I am agreeing with Barney Frank on the futility of a prohibition. Only thing left is supporting suites against this in the World Court. I have a feeling it will get steam rolled through the Senate as well. After all we have the harshest law and it's all Democrats here.
The part about stopping credit card use does not hinder anyone. I have a special bank account set up for nothing but wagering, mostly sports and lotto. I never deposit or collect from a gambling site directly. It is done through a middle man (e-bank, net-Teller , etc)
One site has said' they don't run thelotto, the state does, they just accept your bet on what the number will be.'
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
Actually, it is our politicians that are sickening.
Well, this is no joking matter anymore. It this passes I will be one mad mean white boy. I don't know if having the middle man( netteller...etc) will make any difference. They probably have an answer for that as well. Its all about money but isn't everything. The fat arses sit behind the desk and make all the money, while everyone else does the work. OK, I'm drifting a little. Don't get me riled up, please.....
Those who have fought and died for our right to have freedoms are becoming more and more irrelevant.
DD
HAPPY TUESDAY....7/11/.....ANYWAY...."DD"
The real reason, this is happening (IMAO) is because Congress has no way of "taxing it or controlling it...so they want to kill it. This would be only the beginning. They can go after Horse Racing whenever they feel like it. Just think of the Taxes they could collect, for this and any on-line gambling if they had the "control " they want over it. Just like Liquor and Cigs....Congress can tax it to death, so it's legal to drink anything, anytime and practically anywhere you like. Sure it's bad for your health to drink, but we do it anyway, and they tax it anyway.
They already tax our lotto/lottery winnings.........
Long time no see my friend. I agree with you. It is ridiculous how the govt will shut something down because they can't get their filthy mitts on some of the cash flow. Otherwise even pot would be legal in this country. As proud an American I am, I sometimes find myself thinking to myself "what happened to land of the free?"
I know I know, before I start getting people all pizzed at me...I am exaggerating that last thought, because we have it better than anyone, but I hate when my govt tells me what I can and cannot do.
Online gambling and prostitution should be legalized and regulated and taxed, eventually eliminating the income tax. This country might as well be supported by the activities its citizens enjoy!
for the people in these no lottery states it is bad we have to drive to another state or find a good bookie lol
That's the reason I cussed so hard. I don't want to go back to the bookies. NC is going to hold off on the pick 3's as long as they can make money on scratchers.
I have an idea! The U.S. Government won't listen to us, but the ISPs will. If we write them as a group and threaten to drop their service if they block gambling sites, they will listen. They don't want to lose customers over something like this. This means AOL, MSN, Earthlink, etc. Money talks with them!! Remind them that we will migrate to ISPs that refuse to block gaming sites. Greed rules!!
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
It is very sickening indeed and I warned everyone it would probably happen because I sat and watched the same thing happen to smokers who bought online and like you all who just can't believe something like this is could in America so were the smokers and they put up a good fight as well. But all the letters, petitions, anger and hooting did not a lick of good it still happened.
I don't gamble online but my heart goes out to those that do and it is very well indeed an injustice. I am ashamed to sit here and watch this all unfold knowing it would probably happen. One by one our freedoms are being plucked out from under us. As much as the credit card companies hate to see these things happen, really there is not much they can do about this but comply.
These things are totally shocking and one must wonder if Freedom still rings In America!
I have an idea! The U.S. Government won't listen to us, but the ISPs will. If we write them as a group and threaten to drop their service if they block gambling sites, they will listen. They don't want to lose customers over something like this. This means AOL, MSN, Earthlink, etc. Money talks with them!! Remind them that we will migrate to ISPs that refuse to block gaming sites. Greed rules!!
Orangeman
The only problem with that is that you need to have an ISP that services your area, so they will be located in the USA. And the new law states that the government can compell the ISPs to block sites.
I was very serious that this bill is the start of something very bad for all of us, not just the gambling croud. Between this, the new laws enabling ISPs to restrict bandwidth of whatever content they wish, and the wholesale Internet wire tapping that is going on, they are gearing up for a whole new level of control that will make Big Brother look like Tiny Tim.
Yes, please, please protect me from myself, big brother. Don't you love how they come off as trying to protect people from going broke ;when you know darn well what it really comes down to. Time to vote some of the bad eggs out. Oh, wait there all bad eggs. That's the objective, there are no good choices and that's the way they want it. Republican or Democrat, basically the same, only minor differences.
When someone comes between big business and money, someone gets run over. The problem is that most Americans don't have the guts to stand up against their government. We would rather watch American Idol and drink beer that protect our God-given rights. Shame on us. No guts no glory!!! Are you willing to stand up against these miscreants??
Yes, I am. For one thing, I tell it like it is on my web site, and try to expose their idiocy to millions of people. (Just as we are discussing the topic right now.) I also write to my local papers and representatives. I wish more people would do the same.
Good to hear that. I was afraid that the government might have threatened to shut you down, too.
The government we have now is worse than anything the British "oppressed" us with in 1776. We currently pay 40% of our income to state, local and federal entities. We can't afford gasoline, we can't afford food for our children and we are under constant scrutiny by the rising security state. If the American people don't stand up and condemn this current regime, we should apologize to King George III. He just imposed a small tax on tea to help defray the cost of fighting the French in the French and Indian War! Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Madison and Adams are spinning in their graves!!!
The Founding Fathers were a lot smarter than you will ever be.
Slavery was not part of this discussion. Don't drag slavery into everything. It doesn't always fit into every argument. Get over it.
Orangeman
You must not be too smart to get angry just because I didn't agree with you. How smart is that? I don't have the right to disagree with you? It's funny - you feel like your rights are being taken away from you and don't want to give another human the right to disagree with you.
Flood your senators offices with emails about this and about the immigration issue.http://senate.gov/
Become a lobbying force all your own and let them know what you think.
Remember that farce immigration debacle the senate handed out that the house didn't agree with because people didn't want amnesty ........ someone obviously emailed or called their representatives.
The door swings both ways ............ call or write about this issue and about immigration, and do so as 2 separate emails if doing it like that and let them know your feelings.
The legislation would clarify and update current law to spell out that most gambling is illegal online. But there would be exceptions - for state-run lotteries and horse racing - and passage isn't a safe bet in the Senate, where Republican leaders have not considered the measure a high priority.
this information gives us a little bit of hope........
Monday, July 10, 2006 5:43:47 AM ET Dow Jones Newswires
0826 GMT [Dow Jones] The possibility of a combined Leach and Goodlatte bill on internet gambling getting through both the House of Representatives and the Senate during the current Congress is very slim, says an analyst. Reckons both Leach's and Goodlatte's bill will be combined with the earliest likely House of Representatives vote taking place July 10. Sees the bill passing through the House, a move which is expected by investors. But with only around 7-8 weeks left of Congress after that the bill is unlikely to be able to progress given the tight end of Congress legislation timetable in the Senate. PartyGaming (PRTY.LN) trades -0.5% at 107.5p, 888 (888.LN) unchanged at 208p. (DWE)
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
I didn't think of it that way, Todd. But I think you could be right. I'm still not convinced that the Senate will even discuss it yet.
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
I agree with Todd's comment and I would like to add that whenever they push for something that the majority doesn't want, they are trying to move their agenda thru and usually something else is included in the bill that they aren't telling you!!!
Just remember, if they say left, they mean right and if they say stop, they mean go, if it should be good, it's bad and if it is wrong, it's right!!!
Just food for thought...........
U.S. House of representives is full of a bunch of bastards who are trying to bastardize America into something pathetic. I can see it now no more gambling no more playboy no more beer no more cigars no more red meat. Hell they might as well give up their groceries while they are at it because they do not have any sacks to carry them in.-weshar75
What's next ?
Those who have fought and died for our right to have freedoms are becoming more and more irrelevant.
DD
I think it will pass the Senate. The same forces and lobbyists that got the bill to pass with such a big margin in the House are still on Capital Hill. They know where the Senate is located!!
Ok, so we can go to the casinos and spend what we want, the race tracks and blah, blah, and we can shop on-line with what-ever transfer of funds we choose, but..............oh, no, on-line gambling...what a damper...i agree with Todd!
we don't know what they're going to do, nor how fast can they actually do it! but as being in this lottery community, what can we do? i have voted against computerized drawings, most of us probably have, but what can we do?
get it while we can i know, but any other ideas! sensible ones i mean?
Yes, there are things everyone can do. Get all your friends and neighbors registered to vote. If your representatives are up for re-election, vote the sorry asses out. It's might be too late to stop them, but it will send a message to the Senate. Americans, for the last 30 years have not paid any attention what-so-ever to what their representatives are doing in Washington. That's why the sorry asses think and can, get away with anything. I doubt if 10% of them give a damn about individuals, it's their own agendas, they care about. They are right now talking about letting illegal immigrants draw Social Security.
Next thing we know we will try to log on to LP and it will be blocked as a "gambling site"
Any website with the buzzword "lottery" is already blocked in many wireless hotspots. The next block will come from our ISPs.
As Hank Hill says:
"Dammit Dale, the USA is going to hell in a hurry".
Ok, so we can go to the casinos and spend what we want, the race tracks and blah, blah, and we can shop on-line with what-ever transfer of funds we choose, but..............oh, no, on-line gambling...what a damper...i agree with Todd!
we don't know what they're going to do, nor how fast can they actually do it! but as being in this lottery community, what can we do? i have voted against computerized drawings, most of us probably have, but what can we do?
get it while we can i know, but any other ideas! sensible ones i mean?
We will have to just bet our own states by buying tickets at the store. We can all continue posting our picks here on LP for others to choose who is doing well in their state. I don't like thinking that I can't bet Michigan Pick 3 any more, but if that is the law, I will abide by it. I don't like paying tax on my winnings, but I have found that betting Pick 3 str/box here in California is the way to go. If I think a number is going to hit, I play it str/box each way (usually a double, so 3-ways). If it does hit straight, I get 3 or 6 very nice payouts and each ticket is under $600!! No tax.
for the people in these no lottery states it is bad we have to drive to another state or find a good bookie lol
I'm so glad people can experience the joys that those of us in WA state have been feeling. And yes they can also stop ALL gambling sites including this one. For those that think "that won't affect me" and visit this site they are very wrong.
You know things are screwed up when I am agreeing with Barney Frank on the futility of a prohibition. Only thing left is supporting suites against this in the World Court. I have a feeling it will get steam rolled through the Senate as well. After all we have the harshest law and it's all Democrats here.
The part about stopping credit card use does not hinder anyone. I have a special bank account set up for nothing but wagering, mostly sports and lotto. I never deposit or collect from a gambling site directly. It is done through a middle man (e-bank, net-Teller , etc)
One site has said' they don't run thelotto, the state does, they just accept your bet on what the number will be.'
ez
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
Actually, it is our politicians that are sickening.
Well, this is no joking matter anymore. It this passes I will be one mad mean white boy. I don't know if having the middle man( netteller...etc) will make any difference. They probably have an answer for that as well. Its all about money but isn't everything. The fat arses sit behind the desk and make all the money, while everyone else does the work. OK, I'm drifting a little. Don't get me riled up, please.....
What's next ?
Those who have fought and died for our right to have freedoms are becoming more and more irrelevant.
DD
HAPPY TUESDAY....7/11/.....ANYWAY...."DD"
The real reason, this is happening (IMAO) is because Congress has no way of "taxing it or controlling it...so they want to kill it. This would be only the beginning. They can go after Horse Racing whenever they feel like it. Just think of the Taxes they could collect, for this and any on-line gambling if they had the "control " they want over it. Just like Liquor and Cigs....Congress can tax it to death, so it's legal to drink anything, anytime and practically anywhere you like. Sure it's bad for your health to drink, but we do it anyway, and they tax it anyway.
They already tax our lotto/lottery winnings.........
Didn't they just vote themselves a nice pay raise?
I think online gambling should be regulated to prevent minors to play but not OUTLAW it,
that's a shame.....
Good evening libra!
Long time no see my friend. I agree with you. It is ridiculous how the govt will shut something down because they can't get their filthy mitts on some of the cash flow. Otherwise even pot would be legal in this country. As proud an American I am, I sometimes find myself thinking to myself "what happened to land of the free?"
I know I know, before I start getting people all pizzed at me...I am exaggerating that last thought, because we have it better than anyone, but I hate when my govt tells me what I can and cannot do.
Online gambling and prostitution should be legalized and regulated and taxed, eventually eliminating the income tax. This country might as well be supported by the activities its citizens enjoy!
for the people in these no lottery states it is bad we have to drive to another state or find a good bookie lol
It is interesting that they want to block gaming sites, but let the porn sites rock on. Oh, I forgot, Congress is pornography!
Orangeman
Todd:
I have an idea! The U.S. Government won't listen to us, but the ISPs will. If we write them as a group and threaten to drop their service if they block gambling sites, they will listen. They don't want to lose customers over something like this. This means AOL, MSN, Earthlink, etc. Money talks with them!! Remind them that we will migrate to ISPs that refuse to block gaming sites. Greed rules!!
Orangeman
I am not sure that this will even come up in the Senate, and if it does, it won't pass. IMHO
Up until about a month ago I would agree with you. Now I'm worried, because these things have a tendency to steamroll, and the person who made a comment in another thread about being a diversion from terrorism and immigration is correct. With an election coming up, these politicians are looking for bills they can approve, to show that they are actually doing something useful. This is sickening.
It is very sickening indeed and I warned everyone it would probably happen because I sat and watched the same thing happen to smokers who bought online and like you all who just can't believe something like this is could in America so were the smokers and they put up a good fight as well. But all the letters, petitions, anger and hooting did not a lick of good it still happened.
I don't gamble online but my heart goes out to those that do and it is very well indeed an injustice. I am ashamed to sit here and watch this all unfold knowing it would probably happen. One by one our freedoms are being plucked out from under us. As much as the credit card companies hate to see these things happen, really there is not much they can do about this but comply.
These things are totally shocking and one must wonder if Freedom still rings In America!
Totally Unbelievable to say the least!
Todd:
I have an idea! The U.S. Government won't listen to us, but the ISPs will. If we write them as a group and threaten to drop their service if they block gambling sites, they will listen. They don't want to lose customers over something like this. This means AOL, MSN, Earthlink, etc. Money talks with them!! Remind them that we will migrate to ISPs that refuse to block gaming sites. Greed rules!!
Orangeman
The only problem with that is that you need to have an ISP that services your area, so they will be located in the USA. And the new law states that the government can compell the ISPs to block sites.
I was very serious that this bill is the start of something very bad for all of us, not just the gambling croud. Between this, the new laws enabling ISPs to restrict bandwidth of whatever content they wish, and the wholesale Internet wire tapping that is going on, they are gearing up for a whole new level of control that will make Big Brother look like Tiny Tim.
Yes, please, please protect me from myself, big brother. Don't you love how they come off as trying to protect people from going broke ;when you know darn well what it really comes down to. Time to vote some of the bad eggs out. Oh, wait there all bad eggs. That's the objective, there are no good choices and that's the way they want it. Republican or Democrat, basically the same, only minor differences.
I think it's a disease that affects 95% of the people who get elected.
Todd:
When someone comes between big business and money, someone gets run over. The problem is that most Americans don't have the guts to stand up against their government. We would rather watch American Idol and drink beer that protect our God-given rights. Shame on us. No guts no glory!!! Are you willing to stand up against these miscreants??
Orangeman
Yes, I am. For one thing, I tell it like it is on my web site, and try to expose their idiocy to millions of people. (Just as we are discussing the topic right now.) I also write to my local papers and representatives. I wish more people would do the same.
Good to hear that. I was afraid that the government might have threatened to shut you down, too.
The government we have now is worse than anything the British "oppressed" us with in 1776. We currently pay 40% of our income to state, local and federal entities. We can't afford gasoline, we can't afford food for our children and we are under constant scrutiny by the rising security state. If the American people don't stand up and condemn this current regime, we should apologize to King George III. He just imposed a small tax on tea to help defray the cost of fighting the French in the French and Indian War! Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Madison and Adams are spinning in their graves!!!
Orangeman
www.n.y.dailynews.com has interesting article.
Tenaj:
You're right. I don't agree with you.
The Founding Fathers were a lot smarter than you will ever be.
Slavery was not part of this discussion. Don't drag slavery into everything. It doesn't always fit into every argument. Get over it.
Orangeman
Getting away from ragging on our genious founding fathers, and back to the discussion at hand, here a link to the interesting article Emily mentioned: http://www.nydailynews.com/07-11-2006/business/story/434155p-365775c.html
Tenaj:
You're right. I don't agree with you.
The Founding Fathers were a lot smarter than you will ever be.
Slavery was not part of this discussion. Don't drag slavery into everything. It doesn't always fit into every argument. Get over it.
Orangeman
You sound like those politicians.
I think it's a disease that affects 95% of the people who get elected.
http://cbs2.com/business/finance_story_191182503.html
CBS just did a small story on this subject and they're saying online lottery's and horse racing is exempt from the bill...
From AOL poll today;congress should see this and follow the will of the people
How should Congress respond to Internet gambling?
http://cbs2.com/business/finance_story_191182503.html
CBS just did a small story on this subject and they're saying online lottery's and horse racing is exempt from the bill...
Nope, they killed those carve-outs, check the story at the beginning of this thread.
Flood your senators offices with emails about this and about the immigration issue. http://senate.gov/
Become a lobbying force all your own and let them know what you think.
Remember that farce immigration debacle the senate handed out that the house didn't agree with because people didn't want amnesty ........ someone obviously emailed or called their representatives.
The door swings both ways ............ call or write about this issue and about immigration, and do so as 2 separate emails if doing it like that and let them know your feelings.
Make it short, make it concise and to the point. http://www.house.gov/
Know their voting records on the issues and vote accordingly yourself when the time comes.
You have no excuse other than your own apathy if you do nothing.
The legislation would clarify and update current law to spell out that most gambling is illegal online. But there would be exceptions - for state-run lotteries and horse racing - and passage isn't a safe bet in the Senate, where Republican leaders have not considered the measure a high priority.
this information gives us a little bit of hope........
i also found this.....
Internet Gambling Bill Won't Pass Senate
Monday, July 10, 2006 5:43:47 AM ET
Dow Jones Newswires
0826 GMT [Dow Jones] The possibility of a combined Leach and Goodlatte bill on internet gambling getting through both the House of Representatives and the Senate during the current Congress is very slim, says an analyst. Reckons both Leach's and Goodlatte's bill will be combined with the earliest likely House of Representatives vote taking place July 10. Sees the bill passing through the House, a move which is expected by investors. But with only around 7-8 weeks left of Congress after that the bill is unlikely to be able to progress given the tight end of Congress legislation timetable in the Senate. PartyGaming (PRTY.LN) trades -0.5% at 107.5p, 888 (888.LN) unchanged at 208p. (DWE)