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    Here is what to do to solve this problem...When you drive to church this sunday in your new H2 hummer hold your head up and when the collection plate comes around peel off about 10k and drop it in and watch the mood of the church change!Big Grin

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      congratulations!!!  change churches.

      love to nibble those micey feet.

       

                                   

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        LOL emilyg,,,,,,,,,,

        I think that your responce is the best one so far. I agree completely......

         

                                                                       

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          Here is what to do to solve this problem...When you drive to church this sunday in your new H2 hummer hold your head up and when the collection plate comes around peel off about 10k and drop it in and watch the mood of the church change!Big Grin


          This is a story I wrote for a writing course, fits here:

           



              Pastor John Ezra was a third generation preacher. In Kentucky, as in most of the South and bordering states, the clergy preached fire and brimstone sermons. In a tobacco and distillery economy some subjects were taboo. This was a given. Because of this, most preachers had something besides tobacco or drinking that they got very passionate about. Pastor John Ezra was no different, with him his passionate sermons were on gambling.

              The church he pastored was facing some difficulties. Membership had dropped off, families have moved away. The area was experiencing a decline in population. One of the regulars in his church was Tommy Finley. Tommy was there almost every Sunday and enjoyed the fire and brimstone sermons, seeing some valid points in them -despite Tommy’s love of playing the lotto most every week.  Tommy had been involved with race horses and casinos in the past and knew a little more about gambling than the average person.

              Pastor Jon and Tommy had met for lunch and were discussing a tobacco mart down the road. In Kentucky tobaccos stores are a very bi business, as even with the latest tax increases the tax per pack and per carton still made Kentucky cigarettes less expensive than the cost in surrounding states. These stores sold discount cigarettes and other tobacco products, discount liquor, and lottery tickets. This was on top of the other knick- knacks common to convenience stores along highways.

              “You gotta love it”, Tommy said as he looked at the Pastor.
                “What’s that”, asked Pastor John?
              “Well, just look around you. We see cigarettes, liquor, flyers for horse farms that raise race horses, lottery tickets, and look on the window. Flyers for upcoming events at two Baptist churches.”
           
           




              “You don’t see that as kind of ironic, or see the humor in it?”, asked Tommy.
              “Gladly take in tobacco money or liquor money from your congregation and preach against the lottery?”
              “It’s gambling”, said Pastor John.
                Tommy said, “Look, I’m not talking about casinos and enticing people to play their whole paycheck on video poker, trying to win an $1100.00 Royal Flush. Unlikely that would change anyone’s life - but the casino owners. As they make more and more. I’m talking about working stiffs playing a buck or two on a lottery ticket because it gives them just a little bit of hope. You see this everyday I casinos, when people walk out, most of them look angry. Of course they do, most of them lost. When people leave a lotto place, especially when there’s a huge jackpot, they walk out with hope on their face.”
              “It’s still gambling, “ Pastor John said.
              “I’m not saying it isn’t,” remarked Tommy. “I’m saying far better to risk a dollar or two trying to change your life than risking paycheck after paycheck to get even. Read a lottery ticket, the remark about proceeds from the lottery benefit all Kentuckians. Proceeds from the casinos go to the casino corporations, most out of state. Big difference.”   
              Pastor John said, “So you’re opposed to casinos but pro-lottery.”
              “Not exactly”, said Tommy. “I’m just saying casinos promise a bunch of spin off business. Then after they’re up and operating, they open their own restaurants which takes away from the businesses in town, to the point they eventually close.”
              “The thing is”, said Tommy, “if three people from your church were to come in here right now, and one buys cigarettes, one buys a bottle of booze, and one buys a lottery ticket, you’d preach to the one with a lottery ticket and say hello to the other two.”
              “Well yeah”, said Pastor John.






              They had finished lunch and Tommy said he wanted to get one more cup of coffee and make some phone calls. Pastor John said he had a few stops to make and went out to his car and left.
          Tommy got another coffee and grabbed a newspaper, noticing that the Powerball jackpot was
          $75,000,000. He remembered the old adage about how even a blind hog could find an acorn eery now and then and decided to spend a couple of dollars to” benefit all Kentuckians.”

              Powerball is played by picking five out of 53 numbers in the top box of a powerball slip, and 1 number of 42 on the bottom. Hitting the five of five on the top portion wins $100,000. Adding the winning powerball number to those five takes the prize up by millions, literally.

              Tommy chose five numbers, and the powerball number. He repeated one of the first five as the powerball number, just on a hunch. He thought about how much he’d give to Pastor John and his church if he won, but to do that the media would make a big affair out of it. Not only that, the taxes would really be sticky. He couldn’t give that much away anonymously.  Tommy came up with a better idea. H gave the clerk three dollars and said, “Can you play this same ticket three times?”.  The clerk said, “Sure” as she knew people always played tickets for other people, especially of they were out of state people. As she handed him the tickets and said, “Good luck” he gave one back to her and said, “This is for you, I want someone rooting for those numbers”. Tommy thought 75 million for one person was a bit much, splitting it would be better.
          She thanked him and he left, taking the other two tickets.

              The Saturday night of the drawing, Tommy watched it on TV and one by one the numbers were selected. 7 - 24 - 27- 29 - 41 and the powerball, 24. Tommy checked his tickets. (So did the store clerk at her home!) Then he checked and rechecked.




              Tommy didn’t  sleep much that night, neither did that store clerk!  He made it a point to get to Pastor John’s church on time, sat there and listened to sermon on the lottery. He kind of had hunch that’s what it would be on, as Pastor John often used those lunches as ideas for the next Sunday’s sermon.
              When it came time for the offering basket to be passed around and it came to Tommy, he took out a $20 bill and wrapped it around the other winning lottery ticket and dropped them in the basket....




           


             
               

             

             

           

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            OK, I have to comment here.  You brought it up so I'm going to talk about it. 

            First of all, if you have something to communicate, communicate it. 

            It sounds like you're saying Baghdad was going to march to Iowa and behead us if we didn't go make war on them first.  If I'm wrong, then make a sensible post so I can understand what you are saying.

            Baghdad did not bomb the WTC.  Osama Bin Laden did.  He freely admitted to it before we started a war in Iraq.  Osama Bin Laden is still a free man 5 years later.  Osama Bin Laden and his cronies will be the ones beheading in Iowa not Baghdad.  And you are right, we won't be asking the National Guard to help us because they're in Iraq right now, aren't they?

            Get the flags out of your eyes and ask yourself, "Why is the man who attacked our country and murdered 3,000 innocent citizens in a half hour's time still a free man?"

            150,000 soldiers with accompanying American warfare technology combing Afghanistan and Pakistan would have had him and his major cohorts captured in 6 months.  That is the way to prosecute a crime.

            He would have been convicted and sentenced to death.  Iraq would not be in a civil war because Saddam would still be there to stop it.  Iran wouldn't be waving its nuclear arms because historically Iraq and Iran have countered each other's power in the region, leaving no one single superpower.

            Right now we're screwed and haven't accomplished a single thing.  And you think you're safer in Iowa?

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              I disagree with you wholeheartedly.

              Aw, too bad, I'm brokenhearted. Roll Eyes

               

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                Nice story, Coin Toss. Big Smile

                 I'm a transplant anyways so not much to hold me here. I will immediately move away from here to a state with more favorable taxes. I will tell no one at the new locale about the win. My new church gets my tithes and if someone puts it together it's from a lottery win and they decide to return the money then so be it. It would prob take me a good 6 months to settle on a new church so maybe memories will dim. I'll just add that 10% to the other additional 10% (if it's tax favorable) I'd earmark for charities, etc. I believe in sharing the wealth. Thumbs Up

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                  This is a story I wrote for a writing course, fits here:

                   



                      Pastor John Ezra was a third generation preacher. In Kentucky, as in most of the South and bordering states, the clergy preached fire and brimstone sermons. In a tobacco and distillery economy some subjects were taboo. This was a given. Because of this, most preachers had something besides tobacco or drinking that they got very passionate about. Pastor John Ezra was no different, with him his passionate sermons were on gambling.

                      The church he pastored was facing some difficulties. Membership had dropped off, families have moved away. The area was experiencing a decline in population. One of the regulars in his church was Tommy Finley. Tommy was there almost every Sunday and enjoyed the fire and brimstone sermons, seeing some valid points in them -despite Tommy’s love of playing the lotto most every week.  Tommy had been involved with race horses and casinos in the past and knew a little more about gambling than the average person.

                      Pastor Jon and Tommy had met for lunch and were discussing a tobacco mart down the road. In Kentucky tobaccos stores are a very bi business, as even with the latest tax increases the tax per pack and per carton still made Kentucky cigarettes less expensive than the cost in surrounding states. These stores sold discount cigarettes and other tobacco products, discount liquor, and lottery tickets. This was on top of the other knick- knacks common to convenience stores along highways.

                      “You gotta love it”, Tommy said as he looked at the Pastor.
                        “What’s that”, asked Pastor John?
                      “Well, just look around you. We see cigarettes, liquor, flyers for horse farms that raise race horses, lottery tickets, and look on the window. Flyers for upcoming events at two Baptist churches.”
                   
                   




                      “You don’t see that as kind of ironic, or see the humor in it?”, asked Tommy.
                      “Gladly take in tobacco money or liquor money from your congregation and preach against the lottery?”
                      “It’s gambling”, said Pastor John.
                        Tommy said, “Look, I’m not talking about casinos and enticing people to play their whole paycheck on video poker, trying to win an $1100.00 Royal Flush. Unlikely that would change anyone’s life - but the casino owners. As they make more and more. I’m talking about working stiffs playing a buck or two on a lottery ticket because it gives them just a little bit of hope. You see this everyday I casinos, when people walk out, most of them look angry. Of course they do, most of them lost. When people leave a lotto place, especially when there’s a huge jackpot, they walk out with hope on their face.”
                      “It’s still gambling, “ Pastor John said.
                      “I’m not saying it isn’t,” remarked Tommy. “I’m saying far better to risk a dollar or two trying to change your life than risking paycheck after paycheck to get even. Read a lottery ticket, the remark about proceeds from the lottery benefit all Kentuckians. Proceeds from the casinos go to the casino corporations, most out of state. Big difference.”   
                      Pastor John said, “So you’re opposed to casinos but pro-lottery.”
                      “Not exactly”, said Tommy. “I’m just saying casinos promise a bunch of spin off business. Then after they’re up and operating, they open their own restaurants which takes away from the businesses in town, to the point they eventually close.”
                      “The thing is”, said Tommy, “if three people from your church were to come in here right now, and one buys cigarettes, one buys a bottle of booze, and one buys a lottery ticket, you’d preach to the one with a lottery ticket and say hello to the other two.”
                      “Well yeah”, said Pastor John.






                      They had finished lunch and Tommy said he wanted to get one more cup of coffee and make some phone calls. Pastor John said he had a few stops to make and went out to his car and left.
                  Tommy got another coffee and grabbed a newspaper, noticing that the Powerball jackpot was
                  $75,000,000. He remembered the old adage about how even a blind hog could find an acorn eery now and then and decided to spend a couple of dollars to” benefit all Kentuckians.”

                      Powerball is played by picking five out of 53 numbers in the top box of a powerball slip, and 1 number of 42 on the bottom. Hitting the five of five on the top portion wins $100,000. Adding the winning powerball number to those five takes the prize up by millions, literally.

                      Tommy chose five numbers, and the powerball number. He repeated one of the first five as the powerball number, just on a hunch. He thought about how much he’d give to Pastor John and his church if he won, but to do that the media would make a big affair out of it. Not only that, the taxes would really be sticky. He couldn’t give that much away anonymously.  Tommy came up with a better idea. H gave the clerk three dollars and said, “Can you play this same ticket three times?”.  The clerk said, “Sure” as she knew people always played tickets for other people, especially of they were out of state people. As she handed him the tickets and said, “Good luck” he gave one back to her and said, “This is for you, I want someone rooting for those numbers”. Tommy thought 75 million for one person was a bit much, splitting it would be better.
                  She thanked him and he left, taking the other two tickets.

                      The Saturday night of the drawing, Tommy watched it on TV and one by one the numbers were selected. 7 - 24 - 27- 29 - 41 and the powerball, 24. Tommy checked his tickets. (So did the store clerk at her home!) Then he checked and rechecked.




                      Tommy didn’t  sleep much that night, neither did that store clerk!  He made it a point to get to Pastor John’s church on time, sat there and listened to sermon on the lottery. He kind of had hunch that’s what it would be on, as Pastor John often used those lunches as ideas for the next Sunday’s sermon.
                      When it came time for the offering basket to be passed around and it came to Tommy, he took out a $20 bill and wrapped it around the other winning lottery ticket and dropped them in the basket....




                   


                     
                       

                     

                     

                   

                  What a great story!  And it proves a point...The preacher is going to be changing his sermon's pretty damn quick!

                   

                  I've been reading the comments, and I'd like to throw in my 2 cents here.  I believe in God.  I'm a Christian.  I will NOT be ashamed when I win.  Why?  Because I truely believe that a sin is something that comes between you and God.  No matter WHAT it is.  If you take that money and you break it off with your family, or you do stupid things like JW did....then it's a sin.  If I'm so obcessed with...say Chocolate...and I can't seem to make it to church or to read my bible because of my sticky hands....then my obcession with Chocolate is now a sin.  MY GOODNESS!  CHOCOLATE A SIN?  Yes...only if it comes between you and God.  If you ask God to help you with your finances but you're blowing your paycheck on Gambling...its a sin. 

                  Think of it this way....You are taking that lottery ticket....or chocolate...or whatever and you are putting it up on  a pedestal....you're making it a God.  God said you can't have any other Gods before Him.....I don't think he meant JUST buddha or Alah.

                  I'm rambling now.....sorry.  lol

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                    OK, I have to comment here.  You brought it up so I'm going to talk about it. 

                    First of all, if you have something to communicate, communicate it. 

                    It sounds like you're saying Baghdad was going to march to Iowa and behead us if we didn't go make war on them first.  If I'm wrong, then make a sensible post so I can understand what you are saying.

                    Baghdad did not bomb the WTC.  Osama Bin Laden did.  He freely admitted to it before we started a war in Iraq.  Osama Bin Laden is still a free man 5 years later.  Osama Bin Laden and his cronies will be the ones beheading in Iowa not Baghdad.  And you are right, we won't be asking the National Guard to help us because they're in Iraq right now, aren't they?

                    Get the flags out of your eyes and ask yourself, "Why is the man who attacked our country and murdered 3,000 innocent citizens in a half hour's time still a free man?"

                    150,000 soldiers with accompanying American warfare technology combing Afghanistan and Pakistan would have had him and his major cohorts captured in 6 months.  That is the way to prosecute a crime.

                    He would have been convicted and sentenced to death.  Iraq would not be in a civil war because Saddam would still be there to stop it.  Iran wouldn't be waving its nuclear arms because historically Iraq and Iran have countered each other's power in the region, leaving no one single superpower.

                    Right now we're screwed and haven't accomplished a single thing.  And you think you're safer in Iowa?

                    I don't see it that way. 

                    If you asked, "And you think you're safer in New Jersey?" my answer would a resounding "yes".

                    I live a lot closer to Ground Zero than you, Rick, and I was supposed to be in the WTC in the Marsh & McLennan floors at the exact time the planes hit.  The only reason I'm not dead today is that another consultant took my place.  They are dead, and I'm alive.

                    I don't think of this as some kind of theory to discuss, it is a real war against those a-holes who attacked this country.

                    And don't fool yourself: we ARE fighting the exact people would be be attacking our country today.  Instead of helping their fellow fascists in Iraq, they would be blowing up planes or buildings, or maybe smuggling chemical weapons into cities.

                    You can't argue with success of the Bush administration:  zero attacks on our homeland since 9/11.  You can say whatever you want, but all the fighting is being done in the terrorists homeland.

                    Spain train stations have been blown up, UK busses have been blown up, Jordanian hotels have been blown up, and a dozen other things, but exactly how many things have been blown up in your town, Rick?

                    I simply don't care who YOU think attacked us.  All I know is that Bush has kept us safe.  And yes, Iraq was a center of state-sponsored terrorism, and a threat to the whole world.  The thousands of Arab language documents that have now been translated have proven that the terrorist ties were all there, and quite real.  How many news stories have you heard on CBS News about that?

                    Osama Bin Laden is neutralized, just as good as dead.  Al Zarqwari is dead.  A recent report showed that something like 80% of the Al Queda leadership is dead or captured.  They are not gone, but severely crippled.

                    Of course, the New York Times and Katie Couric would never tell you that, but a lot of people in America believe their hogwash anyway.

                    Everyone thinks they know better, and lots of people listen to the lame-o liberals who talk tough, but cower in the corner when they actually have to do something.  I scoff at the notion of listening to Nancy Pelosi for leading troops into battle.  Or any of those liberal mealy-mouths.

                    You people can bash our President all day long, but I am proud to have him as my president.

                     

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                      This is a story I wrote for a writing course, fits here:

                       



                          Pastor John Ezra was a third generation preacher. In Kentucky, as in most of the South and bordering states, the clergy preached fire and brimstone sermons. In a tobacco and distillery economy some subjects were taboo. This was a given. Because of this, most preachers had something besides tobacco or drinking that they got very passionate about. Pastor John Ezra was no different, with him his passionate sermons were on gambling.

                          The church he pastored was facing some difficulties. Membership had dropped off, families have moved away. The area was experiencing a decline in population. One of the regulars in his church was Tommy Finley. Tommy was there almost every Sunday and enjoyed the fire and brimstone sermons, seeing some valid points in them -despite Tommy’s love of playing the lotto most every week.  Tommy had been involved with race horses and casinos in the past and knew a little more about gambling than the average person.

                          Pastor Jon and Tommy had met for lunch and were discussing a tobacco mart down the road. In Kentucky tobaccos stores are a very bi business, as even with the latest tax increases the tax per pack and per carton still made Kentucky cigarettes less expensive than the cost in surrounding states. These stores sold discount cigarettes and other tobacco products, discount liquor, and lottery tickets. This was on top of the other knick- knacks common to convenience stores along highways.

                          “You gotta love it”, Tommy said as he looked at the Pastor.
                            “What’s that”, asked Pastor John?
                          “Well, just look around you. We see cigarettes, liquor, flyers for horse farms that raise race horses, lottery tickets, and look on the window. Flyers for upcoming events at two Baptist churches.”
                       
                       




                          “You don’t see that as kind of ironic, or see the humor in it?”, asked Tommy.
                          “Gladly take in tobacco money or liquor money from your congregation and preach against the lottery?”
                          “It’s gambling”, said Pastor John.
                            Tommy said, “Look, I’m not talking about casinos and enticing people to play their whole paycheck on video poker, trying to win an $1100.00 Royal Flush. Unlikely that would change anyone’s life - but the casino owners. As they make more and more. I’m talking about working stiffs playing a buck or two on a lottery ticket because it gives them just a little bit of hope. You see this everyday I casinos, when people walk out, most of them look angry. Of course they do, most of them lost. When people leave a lotto place, especially when there’s a huge jackpot, they walk out with hope on their face.”
                          “It’s still gambling, “ Pastor John said.
                          “I’m not saying it isn’t,” remarked Tommy. “I’m saying far better to risk a dollar or two trying to change your life than risking paycheck after paycheck to get even. Read a lottery ticket, the remark about proceeds from the lottery benefit all Kentuckians. Proceeds from the casinos go to the casino corporations, most out of state. Big difference.”   
                          Pastor John said, “So you’re opposed to casinos but pro-lottery.”
                          “Not exactly”, said Tommy. “I’m just saying casinos promise a bunch of spin off business. Then after they’re up and operating, they open their own restaurants which takes away from the businesses in town, to the point they eventually close.”
                          “The thing is”, said Tommy, “if three people from your church were to come in here right now, and one buys cigarettes, one buys a bottle of booze, and one buys a lottery ticket, you’d preach to the one with a lottery ticket and say hello to the other two.”
                          “Well yeah”, said Pastor John.






                          They had finished lunch and Tommy said he wanted to get one more cup of coffee and make some phone calls. Pastor John said he had a few stops to make and went out to his car and left.
                      Tommy got another coffee and grabbed a newspaper, noticing that the Powerball jackpot was
                      $75,000,000. He remembered the old adage about how even a blind hog could find an acorn eery now and then and decided to spend a couple of dollars to” benefit all Kentuckians.”

                          Powerball is played by picking five out of 53 numbers in the top box of a powerball slip, and 1 number of 42 on the bottom. Hitting the five of five on the top portion wins $100,000. Adding the winning powerball number to those five takes the prize up by millions, literally.

                          Tommy chose five numbers, and the powerball number. He repeated one of the first five as the powerball number, just on a hunch. He thought about how much he’d give to Pastor John and his church if he won, but to do that the media would make a big affair out of it. Not only that, the taxes would really be sticky. He couldn’t give that much away anonymously.  Tommy came up with a better idea. H gave the clerk three dollars and said, “Can you play this same ticket three times?”.  The clerk said, “Sure” as she knew people always played tickets for other people, especially of they were out of state people. As she handed him the tickets and said, “Good luck” he gave one back to her and said, “This is for you, I want someone rooting for those numbers”. Tommy thought 75 million for one person was a bit much, splitting it would be better.
                      She thanked him and he left, taking the other two tickets.

                          The Saturday night of the drawing, Tommy watched it on TV and one by one the numbers were selected. 7 - 24 - 27- 29 - 41 and the powerball, 24. Tommy checked his tickets. (So did the store clerk at her home!) Then he checked and rechecked.




                          Tommy didn’t  sleep much that night, neither did that store clerk!  He made it a point to get to Pastor John’s church on time, sat there and listened to sermon on the lottery. He kind of had hunch that’s what it would be on, as Pastor John often used those lunches as ideas for the next Sunday’s sermon.
                          When it came time for the offering basket to be passed around and it came to Tommy, he took out a $20 bill and wrapped it around the other winning lottery ticket and dropped them in the basket....




                       


                         
                           

                         

                         

                       

                      And you can bet the Pastor wouldn't turn down that lottery ticket and he can always justify it by the fact that he didn't buy the ticket but was given it.  I've yet to see any Scripture that tells us we can't spend a buck on a lottery ticket and that a church should turn down donations given to them because it came from gambling.  Do they turn down money from casino owners?  Liquor store owners?  Bar owners?  Very hypocritical behavior of these Christians to treat this couple so badly.

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                        As it was said earlier by Stephi, there is nothing in the bible that forbids gambling, but it does warn of some of the sins that can accompany the act of gambling, like greed and such. It also says things like drink wine, but do not get drunk. The point being, if these people played on a whim, like it sounds in the story, then what is the problem? The only one with the problem here is the pastor of the church. Unless these people lied about how involved they were in the lottery and it caused them to have things like greed in their lives and now they are having to lie about it to save face they have absolutely no reason to feel guilty. none at all.

                        Like advice by others, give your 10% to another church who will be blessed by the offering. And stop feeling guilty...

                        Just another view,

                        Bryan  :)

                          justxploring's avatar - villiarna
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                          Posted: September 6, 2006, 1:39 am - IP Logged

                          congratulations!!!  change churches.

                          A true cat - comes right to the point.  

                           

                          Todd, think I'll stick to talking about the lottery, not politics. However,  I do agree with you that Hillary Clinton won't win. I read your blog from time to time, and you can't possibly say you aren't judgmental.  You tore my head off once when I criticized George Bush, Our Savior's self-appointed personal messenger. I don't think I've heard more lies from an administration since the Nixon years. By the way, the station you say is the "only" news to watch is probably the most biased and unreliable channel in television history.  I'll be watching the local news and change to MSNBC and CNN and listen to Public Broadcasting and Fox is the only station with "exclusive stories" that must have happened when the rest of the world was sleeping.  There's a difference between making a point and making one up. You also wrote above that you like to be referred to as a "Conservative" not a "Republican." Yet, in many of your comments you write "Democrats & Liberals" as if the 2 terms are synonymous.  I am not a Liberal, yet I've always been a Democrat. This is your board, so write what you think, think what you feel, feel what you want. It doesn't make it so.

                          Psykomo - I respect the military, every branch including the National Guard. When did it become un-American for a citizen in the United States to disagree with foreign policy? When did it become a sin to oppose violence? Many people who pray to God everyday and night, who are much more passionate about their faith than I could ever be, are pacifists who oppose the war in Iraq. Many of them are U.S. soldiers. Take for example IVAW (Iraq Veterans Against the War)  Suddenly, someone who has lost an eye or maybe a limb fighting for our country is un-American?  Maybe Max Cleland, a former Senator and a Democrat who lost both his legs and one arm in Viet Nam and who supported John Kerry also hates America, because he speaks the Truth. If it wasn't so comical it would be pathetic how the Republicans slander Democrat war heroes while they have a leader who didn't even show up for duty because he was one of the privileged brats who used his family connections to avoid a tour of duty. So what has Mr. Bush sacrificed? Well, he has given up a few golfing days but that's the price you pay for being the Chief.

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                            Posted: September 6, 2006, 1:58 am - IP Logged

                            Being an athiest I wouldn't be in this delima. I doubted they cared that much either since they cashed the ticket.

                            As far as the rest of the politics on this discussion I'd say Kerry only would know how to defame people serving just like he did in Vietnam. Going into Iraq was a very serious mistake but the people we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan are truely evil and insane. Any culture that dresses it's children up with fake bombs (or real ones in some cases), has actual slaves in 2006 and stones to death gays deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth. Cultural diversity does not include having your throat cut because you are too afraid to stand up for what's right. 

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                              I appreciate your comments JE, but I think you read in my blog what you are expecting or want to read.  I am very careful in my selection of words.  I have not said the liberals and Democrats are the same thing, although they are very often aligned.  There are actually some good Democrats out there.

                              Good meaning if you put them in power I would not fear for my safety.

                              You sound like many people I have heard speak about Fox News as "biased", and I'm sorry to say that you are gravely mistaken.  You ignore all the facts with that statement -- from people on the inside who have come clean -- but my guess is that you are more interested in holding to certain "truths" than in opening your mind to alternative viewpoints.

                              I used to think a lot more like you do, so I have traveled down a long path to arrive where I am in life.  (Calling it a road to enlightenment sounds pretentious, so I won't call it that.)  Whatever paths you choose in life, I wish you the best.

                               

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