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And JE, your example using the maimed Democrat Senator is fairly meaningless in the scheme of things.  You can selectively pick out people who go against the grain in any situation, yes, even including the military.

To say that your example proves anything is ludicrous.  Let's see what happens if you bring your world views into any gathering a service men or women, and see what kind of reception you get.  I don't think your posterboy Democrats will be very popular.

 

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    Americans killed on 9-11 -  2,819

    Americans killed in Iraq    -  2,652 and counting

     

    are we safer???  Hezbollah has survived, Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons, Taliban and al Qaeda are on the march in Afghanistan and terror cells are all over Western Europe and elsewhere.

    love to nibble those micey feet.

     

                                 

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      FIND A NEW CHURCH!

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        And we can't take military action against Iran because of the damaged caused to our country by the bleeding heart liberals like John Kerry and John Murtha.

         

        Nuc em till they glow and shot them in the dark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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          Americans killed on 9-11 -  2,819

          Americans killed in Iraq    -  2,652 and counting

           

          are we safer???  Hezbollah has survived, Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons, Taliban and al Qaeda are on the march in Afghanistan and terror cells are all over Western Europe and elsewhere.

          Yes, and imagine is John Kerry or Al Gore were president.  It's bad enough that all these terror groups grew to enormous strength under Bill Clinton for eight years, now they are like roaches trying to stamp them out.

          Emily, how about you show the number of Americans killed in car crashes every year too?  Or maybe the number of murders in America each year?  I'm really not sure what the purpose of your numbers are.  They certainly don't have any bearing on this.  (I especially like your morbid "and counting".)

          In WWII, why don't you compare the number of people killed in Pearl Harbor to the number who died fighting in Europe?  Because that's what your little comparison amounts to.

          A much better comparison is:

          Americans killed by terrorists in the USA on 9-11 - 2,819

          Americans killed by terrorists in the USA since 9-11 - 0 ... and holding

           

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            Yes, and imagine is John Kerry or Al Gore were president.  It's bad enough that all these terror groups grew to enormous strength under Bill Clinton for eight years, now they are like roaches trying to stamp them out.

            Emily, how about you show the number of Americans killed in car crashes every year too?  Or maybe the number of murders in America each year?  I'm really not sure what the purpose of your numbers are.  They certainly don't have any bearing on this.  (I especially like your morbid "and counting".)

            In WWII, why don't you compare the number of people killed in Pearl Harbor to the number who died fighting in Europe?  Because that's what your little comparison amounts to.

            A much better comparison is:

            Americans killed by terrorists in the USA on 9-11 - 2,819

            Americans killed by terrorists in the USA since 9-11 - 0 ... and holding

            Also there have not been any attacks like the USS Cole or Marine Corp Barracks overseas

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              A) Iraq War and 911 are 2 different things.  I don't believe a direct relationship, regardless what some news stations might say.  Yes, go kill Osama and gang.  No, the war should have never been started. 

              B) If George Bush wants the war so badly, put him on the front lines and let him at it.  Let him stay the course and finish the job and bring our soldiers home!

              C) Saddam had people killed that he felt were enemies.  George Bush declares a war to kill people he feels are enemies.  George is OK otherwise - but certainly guilty of this.

              D) Iraq is a sovereign Country - should of just let Saddam run it.  Too bad we didn't like the way he did it.  The average Iraqi is either dead or worse off if still alive.  We have made a shambles of their Country.  We have dead soldiers.  And we have less money.  At the rate of $271 Million per day, I'd rather the Government gave every adult here $1 million dollars everyday.  Why would anyone in their right mind want to spend the money over there?  Why would I want to suffer even more than I already was - now prices are climbing higher due to the war.  It was hard enough to exist before.  I am suffering for Iraqis I don't know or will never meet.  We all are - the national debt is higher than I care to count.  Stupid. 

              E) The U.S. could still have zero terrorist attacks after 911 without any connection to the Iraq war.  All the same measures could have been put in place.  Not only that but we would have a few more soldiers that would be alive and useful in defending our borders.

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                Can winning nearly a million dollars in the lottery be a bad thing? Strangely, for Donald and Danette Sigmon the answer is apparently, "yes."

                On July 26, Donald won $800,000 in the Powerball Lottery after accurately choosing five winning numbers. The Sigmons went to Raleigh to claim their prize. Ever since, they have worried over the fact that playing the lottery might have shamed them.

                They say they have been shunned and ridiculed — and aren't entirely proud of having played. They're so uncomfortable that Donald has written an open letter to the community about the morality of winning the North Carolina Educational Lottery.

                The Sigmons, members of a local Baptist church, were apprehensive at first. She's the child of a Baptist minister, and he is a Baptist after a childhood as a Catholic.

                Donald says he had bought the Powerball ticket on a whim. He'd been dealing with the death of his mother earlier this year and said he had some numbers in mind, numbers he chose for personal reasons. He bought the PowerPlay option, which would multiply his winnings by four.

                Then he and Danette went to the Outer Banks for a vacation. Only after they returned did they discover that Donald held a ticket worth $200,000. With the multiplier, he had $800,000.

                "I didn't think he'd won because he didn't match the last number" or the Powerball number, Danette said.

                Although he hadn't hit the jackpot, he had won.

                And in the ensuing five weeks, they say, they've been strained by the way some people treat them differently.

                "I have learned many things about the beliefs people have towards playing and winning the lottery," Donald wrote. "Is it right or wrong to play the lottery if you are a Christian or attend church? If you feel in your heart that the right thing to do, when winning the lottery, is to tithe the 10 percent of the winnings to a charity or church ... will the church accept it?" he asks.

                They gave money to charity and to their church, but the church returned it.

                "We understand why the money was returned; we just do not understand the criticism and shunning of our fellow Christian brothers and sisters," Donald wrote.

                I "did not intend to win," he said. "But I did. Since that time, my family and I have been congratulated and ridiculed at the same time. The people in our community who know (us) were happy for us because they know how much it will help us financially, now and in the future. On the other hand, the people who should know my family best have ridiculed and shunned us due to this."

                Danette, a part-time school bus driver, said the ride to Raleigh to claim their winnings "was the longest ride I've ever taken." After they made it through the maze of paperwork, they were given a check and looked for the first branch they could find of their bank.

                That branch was too busy, they were told, as they wanted to deal directly with a banker. So they asked directions to the next branch. There, they were ushered in but greeted with wariness.

                "She said they get lots of fake lottery checks," Danette said. "She said she'd never had a winning check come in."

                After collecting, they came home and avoided publicity. But still, the state had announced their winnings, so it was in the paper.

                Danette says she was unsettled from the get-go.

                "I worried, 'What will my preacher think?' she recalls. "Will I be shunned?"

                She said she's never played the lottery herself, and she has words of advice for those who do. When buying a ticket, think hard about it: "You don't think, 'What if I win?'" she said.

                Donald, who works for Gilbert Engineering installing utilities, said "some people were for us; some were against us," when word got out about the money.

                And what did they do with the winnings? They say they paid the taxes, which were substantial; paid off the mortgage on their West Iredell home; shared some with family; invested some for the children's college; and gave some away.

                "We've done good things with this money," Danette said, but winning has been "good and bad."

                "It changes your life," she said. "I'm so glad he didn't win the big one" worth tens of millions of dollars, she added.

                Because they'd been on the financial brink, they appreciate having money in the bank. But still, they feel they are subject to stares in places they should be treated as friends.

                Much of the reaction "has broken my heart," Danette said. "But what are we going to do, sit on this pile of money" and do nothing?

                They both intend to continue working, because the amount they won isn't enough to get silly about.

                So are they happy?

                "I could be," Danette said with a laugh. But she would appreciate being able to let the worry go so she could sleep.

                What? A lottery winner losing sleep worrying?

                "This has not made us happy," they both said, because winning means "you're struggling with right and wrong."

                "I'm happy we are able to pay things off, help our family and help charity," she said.

                "But we want it to end," he interjected.

                But will their acquaintances forgive them for gambling? Danette thinks many will but said: "I'm not going to beg them."

                "You would have to be a strong person to not want that money," she said, sitting at her kitchen table with Donald, but "I don't know if it's a curse or a blessing."

                Congrats on your winnings!!!  I am a North Carolina resident also, and I can't wait until it's my turn to win.  Enjoy your winnings, and to heck with what other people say and think!!! Thumbs Up

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                  Truecritic,

                  I could not agree with you more.

                  If anyone tells you their proximity to the WTC makes them right about the Republican's foreign policy, laugh in their face. Ask him why Bush's job approvel rating in NYC and NJ suburbs is at 25%. The Republicans dont win in NY/ NJ where the most lives were lost 9-11 because thinking people there know they are wrong in their policies.

                  Invading and occupying Iraq at an estimated cost of $1-2 trillion when it is all over is the most foolish policy for fighting terrorism. Do you know how many people in different Arab countries are looking at the killing going on in Iraq and are deciding to retaliate later on??

                  That money could be better spent building roads, schools etc here ast home.

                  There have not been any terrorist attacks for 5 years, so what?? 9-11 happened on Bush's watch! There were no terrorist attacks on the homeland between 1993 and 2001---> Clinton kept us safe for 8 years, longer than Bush's 5 years!! Will you give him that???

                  Look at the daily terrorist attacks going on in Iraq now and the lives and treasure being lost over there.

                  It is ridiculous that people are still impressed by the mess the Republicans have made of our foreign and domestic policy in the last 6 years.  Everywhere you turn in the world there is crises that the current Administration is incompetent to solve. They are good at propagandizing the American people and winning elections but cant't govern. Republicans are no more patriotic than any Democrat!!

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                    Truecritic,

                    I could not agree with you more.

                    If anyone tells you their proximity to the WTC makes them right about the Republican's foreign policy, laugh in their face. Ask him why Bush's job approvel rating in NYC and NJ suburbs is at 25%. The Republicans dont win in NY/ NJ where the most lives were lost 9-11 because thinking people there know they are wrong in their policies.

                    Invading and occupying Iraq at an estimated cost of $1-2 trillion when it is all over is the most foolish policy for fighting terrorism. Do you know how many people in different Arab countries are looking at the killing going on in Iraq and are deciding to retaliate later on??

                    That money could be better spent building roads, schools etc here ast home.

                    There have not been any terrorist attacks for 5 years, so what?? 9-11 happened on Bush's watch! There were no terrorist attacks on the homeland between 1993 and 2001---> Clinton kept us safe for 8 years, longer than Bush's 5 years!! Will you give him that???

                    Look at the daily terrorist attacks going on in Iraq now and the lives and treasure being lost over there.

                    It is ridiculous that people are still impressed by the mess the Republicans have made of our foreign and domestic policy in the last 6 years.  Everywhere you turn in the world there is crises that the current Administration is incompetent to solve. They are good at propagandizing the American people and winning elections but cant't govern. Republicans are no more patriotic than any Democrat!!

                    So, you want to say, "If anyone tells you their proximity to the WTC makes them right about the Republican's foreign policy..."?

                    I assume I am the "anyone" you're referring to, since nobody else has mentioned their proximity to the WTC.

                    I don't care what wacky fairy tales you want to believe in, that's your business, but your backhanded, idiotic insult to me will not be forgotten.

                    You and I have a very different idea of what patriotism means.  Now go burn your flag.

                     

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                      Go burn a flag? Are you one of those Sean Hannity/ WABC 770 ditto-heads???

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                        Go burn a flag? Are you one of those Sean Hannity/ WABC 770 ditto-heads???

                        Ditto-heads?  Are you a reader of the New York Times?

                         

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                          Yeah, I read the Times and the Washington Post, The New Republic, The Nation etc. They are fair and even leaning right these days. I do not watch Fox News and I have broken a few TV and radio sets because Dumbya came on... 

                          What else do you want to know? Liberals are just as American as far right-wing people. You guys do not own this country.

                          Anyway lets leave it there. I do not want you to ban me from your website because we disagree politically. 

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                            Yes NodYou know guys, a political view is a personal thing.  We all believe according to where we are at the time.....our experiences, our intelligences, our way of being, our bank accounts,.....our life and most times the color of our skin.  When someone states their political view to me, I always try to understand why they personally think that way, where they get their information, what's floating around in the papers, CNN and what techniques are used by our leaders and the media to sway the thinking of gullible people and the arrogant, educated, money in their pockets wannebees, who are just as gullible as the uneducated but don't know it.  When a person is so fervent about their political views that they can not tolerant the views of others is just what the politicians want.  A smoke screen.  It makes us blind to the real issues and their corruption.

                            Regardless of how we got there, we need to respect others political views or don't state them at all.  Politicians sometimes use our own hatreds of other people and fear to put them in office.  I was called "a bleeding heart liberal" because I said that we should be careful about calling illegal immigrants "wetbacks" and other derogatory names.

                            I got personally attacked in my blog because I posted historical facts unfavorably to the founding fathers.  Go figure.  But a person like me normally will feel that way about the founding fathers, and the person who attacked me would normally feel the way they do about the founding fathers.   

                            But it's politics, that's all.  It's corruption and we should look at it as being just that and try to eliminate as much of it as we can.  But how can we see the corruption if we fight among ourselves?

                            We need to start recognizing the corruption of our leaders and pay attention to those who bring it forward for all to see and demand honesty and integrity rather than defending it.  Our country is in the state it is in because of corrupt leaders since the beginning. 

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                              Yeah, I read the Times and the Washington Post, The New Republic, The Nation etc. They are fair and even leaning right these days. I do not watch Fox News and I have broken a few TV and radio sets because Dumbya came on... 

                              What else do you want to know? Liberals are just as American as far right-wing people. You guys do not own this country.

                              Anyway lets leave it there. I do not want you to ban me from your website because we disagree politically. 

                              Ha, ha, ha!!  Thanks for the good laugh today! ROFL

                              Calling the New York Times "fair and even leaning right" was just the bomb!

                              Yes, liberals may be Americans, but being liberal does not make one patriotic.

                              The definition of patriotic is "Devoted love, support, and defense of one's country."  (Look it up in the dictionary if those words don't ring a bell.)

                              Protesting everything and calling the President a liar does not count as any of those things.

                              Once liberals start doing things that defend this country, I'll start calling them patriotic.  I know that's a pretty general statement, and not ALL liberals fit that statement, so my deepest apologies to those liberals who are clearly patriotic.  I just wish there were more of them.

                              What else do you want to know?  I know that we conservatives are nothing but anti-environment, greedy, war-loving, business-oriented jerks, but hopefully you'll allow us to pay for your next anti-religion dung artwork display to make up for it.

                               

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