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High rate of Tenn. Lottery scholarships are lost by bad grades

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Posted: January 23, 2007, 10:48 am - IP Logged

 "the key problems with youth today"

I can't comment about Tennessee, and this article is a wakeup call for their educational system, but I have been hearing about "kids nowadays" for about 50 years (and I'm 55.) 

I know just as many parents who have children who are well balanced and get good grades as I do those who have troubled children.  It's the same 'ol, same 'ol...people always talk about the youth of today as if they are worse than the earlier generation.  My parents would talk about "when I was your age" and now we're all getting old and doing the same thing. 

My sister has 2 children and both graduated college with the highest honors.  My friend's son goes to our local Community College and works part-time. My next door neighbors moved here from Mexico only a few years ago and their children are polite and do well in school. Many stores I go into employ 16 year olds who go to high school all day work at night and on the weekends. 2 of them are Albertson's and Publix.  The kids who work at the homemade ice cream parlor down the road after school can't be more than 15 or 16. 

Bambini, I am not trying to start an argument here, but society has ALWAYS put celebrities way above scientists.  Britney Spears isn't any more popular than Elvis (actually much less) and in the 1960s women screamed and fainted over the Beatles.  Movie stars have always been put on pedestals and lived glamorous lives as if they were gods. Speaking of biographies, more books have been written about Jack The Ripper than Albert Einstein.  This is nothing new.  However, it sounds as if your niece might want to turn the channel, since the Discovery and the History channels and PBS are filled with educational material. 

Every generation has its problems, its rebels, its drop-outs.  Many of the brave men & women fighting in Iraq are teenagers.

Good points, justxploring...I didn't think of things that way :)

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    First...LittleOldLady, keep trying. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually, there will always be that one student who walks up to you and tells you thank you for all of your efforts. You and all of those who work along beside you to help shape our future are appreciated.And you know something Nancy, on this rare occasion I agree with you 100%. Heaven only knows how many times my Mom told me how horrific my generation was compared to hers. And after how many times she told me I would probably never see my 16th birthday, I am still amazed to be 40-something.Bambini, I don't agree with you. But then again, I have greater faith in the perseverance of mankind to believe that society will end with my Generation. 

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      First I have to say I am going to university in about six months to become a teacher ( I am one year from graduating (I am in an accellerated teacher education program). Now I should tell you what my observations of classrooms has been like. I observed a 5th grade math class (not inclusive), there was one particular child who had been to class only 2 days of every week. Now how is the teacher to handle this? She notified the authorities and in turn got chewed on by the parents, and the administration. Another child who's upper class white trash parents purchased her a cell phone was using it the whole time, the teacher took it away from her only to have the mother come and give her complete and total hell over it. Oh by the way she has to teach according to the TCAP's so if a child is lagging behind she offers tutoring after school, but the parents say "We have other activities to attend to can you tutor on SATURDAY?"

      Now I am paying for some of my schooling, but a lot of it comes from grants, and loans. If these kids can not make it in college why not give the money to the older students so that they do not need to take out a loan on their life.Smile

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        First I have to say I am going to university in about six months to become a teacher ( I am one year from graduating (I am in an accellerated teacher education program). Now I should tell you what my observations of classrooms has been like. I observed a 5th grade math class (not inclusive), there was one particular child who had been to class only 2 days of every week. Now how is the teacher to handle this? She notified the authorities and in turn got chewed on by the parents, and the administration. Another child who's upper class white trash parents purchased her a cell phone was using it the whole time, the teacher took it away from her only to have the mother come and give her complete and total hell over it. Oh by the way she has to teach according to the TCAP's so if a child is lagging behind she offers tutoring after school, but the parents say "We have other activities to attend to can you tutor on SATURDAY?"

        Now I am paying for some of my schooling, but a lot of it comes from grants, and loans. If these kids can not make it in college why not give the money to the older students so that they do not need to take out a loan on their life.Smile

        These cases are showing that the parents should be a little more responsible and to teach kids strong work ethics...this disgusts me. I hope that the students you get are better than that!

        Good luck on the rest of your schooling! And I agree...it's students like you that deserve these scholarships.

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          Posted: January 23, 2007, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

          It is an emotional topic to say the least.  I love LP members, you get such a wide variety of opinions and insights!

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            Posted: January 24, 2007, 11:05 pm - IP Logged

            Amen..

            Walking your shoes ....

            I have students who will tell you they don't plan on working after school, even if they have to live in a cardboard box..The parents think it is funny.  I suggest that I teach them how to dumpster dive for food and how to fight off rats that want the same crumbs.

            And they want these kids to pass the state test.. so no kid will be left behind.

             

            On that note,  I have had parents tell me in meetings that their children could fail under this "No kid left behind Policy" whether they did the work or not..  Huhhh..  Someone missed the boat there..  Stupid plan of Bush.. at least he should have named it something else besides that or explained it in terms the parents could understand. Mark it up for something else he has done that we will pay for in this generation.

            I swear I believe that man was left behind...

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              Posted: January 24, 2007, 11:06 pm - IP Logged

              Maybe Tenn. should spend some of the lottery money, on actually educating its students.

              The parents are the ones that need educating...

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                Posted: January 24, 2007, 11:14 pm - IP Logged

                I agree with you Cps..

                I have students whose parents live off their disability check.

                They have asked teachers to score their evaluation low so the check will not be cut..That checks keeps the parents from working.

                I have parents who are afraid if their child learns to read, the check will be cut..

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                  Posted: January 24, 2007, 11:22 pm - IP Logged

                  First I have to say I am going to university in about six months to become a teacher ( I am one year from graduating (I am in an accellerated teacher education program). Now I should tell you what my observations of classrooms has been like. I observed a 5th grade math class (not inclusive), there was one particular child who had been to class only 2 days of every week. Now how is the teacher to handle this? She notified the authorities and in turn got chewed on by the parents, and the administration. Another child who's upper class white trash parents purchased her a cell phone was using it the whole time, the teacher took it away from her only to have the mother come and give her complete and total hell over it. Oh by the way she has to teach according to the TCAP's so if a child is lagging behind she offers tutoring after school, but the parents say "We have other activities to attend to can you tutor on SATURDAY?"

                  Now I am paying for some of my schooling, but a lot of it comes from grants, and loans. If these kids can not make it in college why not give the money to the older students so that they do not need to take out a loan on their life.Smile

                  You are getting a first hand taste with the observation classes..

                  Just when you think you have seen it all.. you will turn a page to a new chapter..

                  I have had parents come up and drag the student out of class to ask what they wanted for supper that night.. 

                  I put a complete stop to parents coming to my room for such nonsense.. One parent came to school to show her son her new haircut..

                  Now.. couldn't that wait until he got home..

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                    Posted: January 25, 2007, 1:36 pm - IP Logged

                    You are getting a first hand taste with the observation classes..

                    Just when you think you have seen it all.. you will turn a page to a new chapter..

                    I have had parents come up and drag the student out of class to ask what they wanted for supper that night.. 

                    I put a complete stop to parents coming to my room for such nonsense.. One parent came to school to show her son her new haircut..

                    Now.. couldn't that wait until he got home..

                    We get the same nonsense here...it just makes no sense that parents just don't give a crap.

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                      Posted: January 28, 2007, 12:32 pm - IP Logged

                      Here is another example of what we have to deal with when it comes to parents.

                      Before Thanksgiving, each 6th grader had to pick a project for the Feb.  Science Fair.

                      After making choice, they had to take home the plans to be discussed with parents and get approval for the project.

                      The students were then able to begin working on research before Christmas, and then doing procedures after Christmas and start the report writing.

                      We have one student who hasn't done anything .. Why? Because her project require using a mouse.. Her parents said she couldn't have a mouse in the house.

                      (question) Why would they sign the approval?  This has caused the child be in a bind..  Bottom line, parents don't read what they are signing...

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