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Sex offender wins $14 million Florida Lotto jackpot

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justxploring's avatar - villiarna
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BevPicks, I was talking about throwing rocks at John Couey.  I don't know what the lottery winner did or did not do.  I don't trust the media, but if he hurt a child he doesn't deserve to be free to go out and do it again.

I am not "upset" but comments like the one below indicate to me that it is fruitless to continue this discussion.

"As long as this man is not out committing more crimes against nature and people why can't folks just leave him alone?  Let the justice system do their jobs."

Again, I have no idea what the lottery winner in the article really did. However, if he sexually assaulted a child, he will do it again.  How many more children does he have to hurt while we "just leave him alone?"  The system is obviously not doing its job.  By the way, I've had plenty of rocks thrown at me.  Sometimes people throw rocks at you because of the way you think or the way you look.  Sometimes it's because you are Black or because you are Gay..or maybe you're just a little odd. That's being judgmental and it is wrong. But there is no comparison between what was said in the Bible about a woman considered to be an adulterer and a sex offender. I hate it when people randomly quote scripture when it suits them. I rarely refer to the Bible to make my point, but as long as we're bringing God & religion into it, why not quote the statement Jesus made about hurting innocent children? "But who so shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

Again, I'm not trying to have the last word, but if I committed a sex crime against an innocent child, I would expect to pay my dues. Please do not compare me with a sex offender no more than you would a serial killer. 

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    Real justice would be if those he has harmed could still file a multi-million dollar civil lawsuit against him for damages (physical and emotional). Now that he has assets, it should be payback time for those he preyed on...

    Duckman, it's happened. So maybe the victims of his crimes can sue him, although I don't think money will ever change their emotional trauma.  Here's a great example (for Bev) of how the justice system is doing such a bang up job putting perverts away.  This goes back to 2001 from the Associated Press.

     

    LOTTERY WINNINGS TO GO TO MOLESTED GIRL
    CLAYTON (MISSOURI):
    A man who won a $ 2.7 million lottery was ordered to give almost all of it to a girl he molested when she was six. The girl, now a teenager, still suffers mentally and emotionally from the 1992 assault, one of her attorneys said on Thursday. Thomas Bisso, 51, pleaded guilty to sodomy in 1994 and spent 120 days in prison. AP

     

    Sodomy on a 6 year old girl?  120 days in prison?  Huh?

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      Posted: February 1, 2007, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

      Hmm, perhaps he could be made to have a sex change operation, have to pay for it himself, (through the nose), and get to live out the rest of his life in some hell hole where women aren't regarded to highly. 

      The whole things smacks of "where's the justice", going back to Justxploring's post about the girl who was violated being arrested while this guy wins.

      Where indeed is the justice? 

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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         "Simple Man"THE CHARLIE DANIELS BAND

        As far as I'm concerned there ain't no excuse
        For the raping and the killing and the child abuse
        And I've got a way to put an end to all that mess

        Just take them rascals out in the swamp
        Put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump
        Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest

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           "Simple Man"THE CHARLIE DANIELS BAND

          As far as I'm concerned there ain't no excuse
          For the raping and the killing and the child abuse
          And I've got a way to put an end to all that mess

          Just take them rascals out in the swamp
          Put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump
          Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest

          yep!!!  or i can perform a very special sex change on this pervert.

          love to nibble those micey feet.

           

                                       

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            anybody who harms children sexually or otherwise should be punished severely.no excuse for people going around messing with small kids who have no capacity to even understand whats going on.i think they should have a zero tolerance law against these sick individuals.this molesting stuff ain't a "mistake" its very bad.

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              Posted: February 1, 2007, 7:39 pm - IP Logged

              Real justice would be if those he has harmed could still file a multi-million dollar civil lawsuit against him for damages (physical and emotional). Now that he has assets, it should be payback time for those he preyed on...

              Again, probably not the most popular sentiment here, but unless the victims were awarded a cash award outside the "debt to society" that he has paid in jail, then they can't got after ANYTHING that he has made since he has been let out of prison. He could offer some money to the victims, and it would be a nice gesture, but he doesn't have to and shouldn't feel guilty about it (not giving them money).

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                Posted: February 1, 2007, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

                anybody who harms children sexually or otherwise should be punished severely.no excuse for people going around messing with small kids who have no capacity to even understand whats going on.i think they should have a zero tolerance law against these sick individuals.this molesting stuff ain't a "mistake" its very bad.

                I agree Mike, he is or was very sick. However, he is not required to pay any of that money to the victims, you see what I'm saying? He got punished for his crime, served his time, got out, got lucky with a lottery ticket, and won. The crimes and the lottery win are completely unrelated.

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                  Again, probably not the most popular sentiment here, but unless the victims were awarded a cash award outside the "debt to society" that he has paid in jail, then they can't got after ANYTHING that he has made since he has been let out of prison. He could offer some money to the victims, and it would be a nice gesture, but he doesn't have to and shouldn't feel guilty about it (not giving them money).

                  As I've said over and over, we don't know exactly what this man did.  However, if you go back to the first page of this post and look at one of my comments, there was a case in Missouri where the lottery winner had to pay restitution to his victim.  So this is not as black & white as you claim.

                  I can't get into the "feeling guilty" comment because I'll break my teeth from grinding them.  We're not talking about stealing a car here.  We're talking about violating a person. 

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                    Granted, the Justice System did not give him a harsh enough sentence...I mean this is a sick crime...however, it is what it is...he was freed and got lucky...that also is what it is...is bad for the victims' families, but the guy probably isn't legally obligated to paying them anything...although he probably should be morally obligated.

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                      As I've said over and over, we don't know exactly what this man did.  However, if you go back to the first page of this post and look at one of my comments, there was a case in Missouri where the lottery winner had to pay restitution to his victim.  So this is not as black & white as you claim.

                      I can't get into the "feeling guilty" comment because I'll break my teeth from grinding them.  We're not talking about stealing a car here.  We're talking about violating a person. 

                      I am interested to see how this shakes down, because the guy is a sick bastard for what he did. But I get the feeling they are going to let him get out of there without paying monetary restitution. Listen to me...lol...I've been watching too much Michael Baldwin on the Young & The Restless...

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                        I am interested to see how this shakes down, because the guy is a sick bastard for what he did. But I get the feeling they are going to let him get out of there without paying monetary restitution. Listen to me...lol...I've been watching too much Michael Baldwin on the Young & The Restless...

                        I live in Florida.  This is an article in my local paper.  I'm not making excuses for this idiot, and he certainly has led a life of crime, but he isn't the child rapist/murderer that Couey or many of the others are. I just don't understand why he keeps getting such light sentences.  I guess our jails are too crowded (with 21 year old rape victims)  Exposing oneself to children is sick, but he could have been high on drugs.  Again, no excuses. But I haven't read anything here that says he physically harmed anyone. I thought the other article said he assaulted a child.

                        http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/NEWS/70131049/1075

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                          I live in Florida.  This is an article in my local paper.  I'm not making excuses for this idiot, and he certainly has led a life of crime, but he isn't the child rapist/murderer that Couey or many of the others are. I just don't understand why he keeps getting such light sentences.  I guess our jails are too crowded (with 21 year old rape victims)  Exposing oneself to children is sick, but he could have been high on drugs.  Again, no excuses. But I haven't read anything here that says he physically harmed anyone. I thought the other article said he assaulted a child.

                          http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/NEWS/70131049/1075

                          Interesting read, thank you for that. Sounds like he is getting a rougher label than as might be the case...I believe he will be off the hook, unless he owes the state money.

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                            I agree in part to JustExploring. THe ticket was won based on the criterea set forth in that lottery state. Be the claiment a former convict or not.

                            The Laws for *Civil* cases allot only 7 years to go after a CONVICTED sex offender for pain and suffering. This guy committed various crimes dating back to 1993. His lastest could have been the speeding ticket or disrupting the peace for all anyone knows ! The point is, without reading the court papers, getting the facts, its not appropriate to assume he is still acting under old behaviors. Gosh knows as humans we have no choice but to change through out our lifes. Ask yourself if your the same person you were 14 years ago?

                            I really would like to beleive this guy paid for his sins and in the mist of these years has found a life that is more socially acceptable in behavior.

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                              Again, probably not the most popular sentiment here, but unless the victims were awarded a cash award outside the "debt to society" that he has paid in jail, then they can't got after ANYTHING that he has made since he has been let out of prison. He could offer some money to the victims, and it would be a nice gesture, but he doesn't have to and shouldn't feel guilty about it (not giving them money).

                              Like the OJ case after the criminal trial the vicitim or their family can sue in civil court for damages.  The fact the guy was found guilty makes it easier to win if time to file hasn't run out.  BobP