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Colorado Lottery investigates 21-time prize winner

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Posted: January 8, 2009, 11:00 am - IP Logged

In response to myturn:

It didn't sound like he was being drug through the mud.    "We know that this gentlemen didn't scam the system," said Colorado Lottery Deputy Director Tom Kitts.   "It was just an unusual occurance," said Kitts. "My best guess is this gentlemen and his family probably play quite a bit... there's been an incredible streak of luck here as well."

Looks like you might want to read the story again.  Doesn't sound like the lottery suspects him of anything.  Just unusual that he has won so much.  It would be irresponsible if they did not investigate.  He's probably one of their best customer.  I wonder how many hundreds of thousands he spends on lottery.  Whoever wrote this story I'm sure needed his permission to release his info...I'm just guessing.  The Lottery isn't always the bad guy!  People seem to think that all too often. 

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    This just goes to show you that with a lot of patience and some luck that anything can be accomplished! Congratulations to him and his family.

    Not to mention a little bit of capital Cool

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      Something with intelligence is that there are people that find hard/complex things easy, yet the easy stuff they found it hard, there are people like that it has to do with the brain...Remember the name of that condition i can't recall the name of it where kids have super memory or can do extraordinary things but cant tie their shoes or take care of themselves, well there are people like that but they are fine is just that the brain tills that way a little...Think of it as someone that should have gotten that condition but didnt get it...

      This dude apparently has a gift but he is playing the wrong game to me..The best thing to do in my opinion if you have such a gift is play pick3 or pick4 [assuming he does spends quite of money on the system, and assuming he has a system/gift] but play pick3 or pick4 and play the same numbers 10 or 20 times straight...For example, 20 times 5,000 straight on pick4 is 100,000 dollars or 20 times 2,500 straightboxed is 50,000...But the problem with this is that you will have to be sure the numbers are comming or you will have to be doing some good tracking...However, not many people know that actually pick5 is easier than pick4 and the reason is that one is a combination game the other one is a permuation game..But to most people pick4 is easier than pick5 because it has less numbers...But again this is only assuming that the guy has a gift...

      Is great what he is doing and everything, if he only was a sofware programmer [or hire one] that way he could create a lottery software company, sell it for 200 dollars to the public [since is very good] and make money off of it and not have to depend on the lottery or create a prediction website charge people $2 per month and wait until he gets 3,000 which will be 6,000 a month which will be 72,000 a year without having to depend on the lottery...I think this is what he should do...He needs to take care of himself make sure he doesn't die [car accident, heart attack, etc] because it will be a great loss to the world...

      You see i believe in that if you have a windfall[struck of luck] that you didn't do it yourself but instead everybody that met and their emotions influence you to be where you are or get there, kind of like the ramifications of a tree...But i was going to say that this is the reason why people should get money in monthly checks and why Pick5 reward is not a lot of money because it doesnt take care of you for life...I will think that someone with 500,000 will have his housed paid and car and money saved for the kids when they go into college...And the rest saved up for later....And 500,000 in the 80's was like 900,000 dollars [he said 30 years ago]....

      The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


       


       


       

       


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        I think some of the readers are comparing Colorado Cash5 with other states Cash5 game which are a lot harder and have larger jackpots.  For example, Colorado Cash5 is a 5/32 game with odds of 1:201,376 of winning a jackpot of $20K while a game like Rolling Cash5 in Ohio is a 5/39 game with odds of 1:575,757 of winning a jackpot of $100K+.  Just like playing other small payout games, spending lots of money on Colorado Cash5 might get you a lot of wins but not a lot of money. Buying all those tickets won Tadeusz Krupa seven jackpots and $158K before taxes while if someone wins the Ohio Rolling Cash5 tonight they would win over $330K before taxes on just this one win.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Something with intelligence is that there are people that find hard/complex things easy, yet the easy stuff they found it hard, there are people like that it has to do with the brain...Remember the name of that condition i can't recall the name of it where kids have super memory or can do extraordinary things but cant tie their shoes or take care of themselves, well there are people like that but they are fine is just that the brain tills that way a little...Think of it as someone that should have gotten that condition but didnt get it...

          This dude apparently has a gift but he is playing the wrong game to me..The best thing to do in my opinion if you have such a gift is play pick3 or pick4 [assuming he does spends quite of money on the system, and assuming he has a system/gift] but play pick3 or pick4 and play the same numbers 10 or 20 times straight...For example, 20 times 5,000 straight on pick4 is 100,000 dollars or 20 times 2,500 straightboxed is 50,000...But the problem with this is that you will have to be sure the numbers are comming or you will have to be doing some good tracking...However, not many people know that actually pick5 is easier than pick4 and the reason is that one is a combination game the other one is a permuation game..But to most people pick4 is easier than pick5 because it has less numbers...But again this is only assuming that the guy has a gift...

          Is great what he is doing and everything, if he only was a sofware programmer [or hire one] that way he could create a lottery software company, sell it for 200 dollars to the public [since is very good] and make money off of it and not have to depend on the lottery or create a prediction website charge people $2 per month and wait until he gets 3,000 which will be 6,000 a month which will be 72,000 a year without having to depend on the lottery...I think this is what he should do...He needs to take care of himself make sure he doesn't die [car accident, heart attack, etc] because it will be a great loss to the world...

          You see i believe in that if you have a windfall[struck of luck] that you didn't do it yourself but instead everybody that met and their emotions influence you to be where you are or get there, kind of like the ramifications of a tree...But i was going to say that this is the reason why people should get money in monthly checks and why Pick5 reward is not a lot of money because it doesnt take care of you for life...I will think that someone with 500,000 will have his housed paid and car and money saved for the kids when they go into college...And the rest saved up for later....And 500,000 in the 80's was like 900,000 dollars [he said 30 years ago]....

          I am not trying to brag but i wish that guy was reading this, because the only way to crack pick4 is THROUGH my system called: "25's for pick4 & Powerball...etc, etc" [is in one of my blogs]....Is the only way...If you don't use my system YOU WILL FAIL...Again i am not trying to brag, but i didn't say my system has everything what i am saying is my system is an idea where you can and should continue to elaborate and work on it further...

          The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


           


           


           

           


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            I am not trying to brag but i wish that guy was reading this, because the only way to crack pick4 is THROUGH my system called: "25's for pick4 & Powerball...etc, etc" [is in one of my blogs]....Is the only way...If you don't use my system YOU WILL FAIL...Again i am not trying to brag, but i didn't say my system has everything what i am saying is my system is an idea where you can and should continue to elaborate and work on it further...

            If you're actually winning using your system then it's not bragging, if you're not then it's something else.

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              It's important to note that he is spending a lot of money.  That's ok if you have it to lose...

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                This doesn't sound like any system to me. He is spending THOUSANDS of dollars playing the game! The odds are so much better in his favor... like throwing horseshoes in a field of pegs .. with thousands of horseshoes being tossed out there, there is a heck of alot more chances to land a win..even if they are 2nd tier prizes. Makes me wonder if the Colorado Lottery will increase their field of numbersEek.

                On a side note, How does he have the patience to hand fill all those tickets ?!?! Is there a way to play thousands of tickets faster instead of handing a stack of tickets to a lottery clerk ?!?

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                  He is my hero.

                  Yes, able to play a lot at a time really helps with the odds in his favor. Playing this way or playing few numbers and hope for a win is still have the same goal. That is winning!

                  He should go try larger games, move to New York city and play Mega Million, living it up enjoy life. To me, he is beyond class able to beat the system again and again.

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                    He hit in the homeland for $500K first and he is now here in beautiful, freely taxed America, sowing the seeds of Lady Luckyszweski! Read to the end.  30 years ago he hit for $500k (1979), that in todays dollars is at least 3 Million! So he probably ain't to bad off with his import/export business and can do whatever he wants with his money.

                    Time*treat hit it right on the nose,  nosey friggen people in Colorado, mind your own business.  This is the root of Krupas "investigation".  Joe the plumber got this looky see for just speaking.  If you hate intrusiveness in your life then don't vote Democratic, liberal, or left, 'cause the bell will toll for thee soon enough. You will SEE soon enough.

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                      If you're actually winning using your system then it's not bragging, if you're not then it's something else.

                      My system does not work, i can't make it to work, but perhaps someone can use it to extend it or take it a step further...The good thing about my system is that it goes for the numbers straights...Is a good system but it still needs work to be done on it...If someone can use it and take it a step further, then it will surely be something...Let me rephrase it perhaps it will sound different...If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system...That's all i am saying...

                      The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


                       


                       


                       

                       


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                        My system does not work, i can't make it to work, but perhaps someone can use it to extend it or take it a step further...The good thing about my system is that it goes for the numbers straights...Is a good system but it still needs work to be done on it...If someone can use it and take it a step further, then it will surely be something...Let me rephrase it perhaps it will sound different...If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system...That's all i am saying...

                        My system does not work, i can't make it to work.......Is a good system but it still needs work to be done on it...

                        Sounds likes you're still at the same place you were before you ever had a system.   

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                          My system does not work, i can't make it to work, but perhaps someone can use it to extend it or take it a step further...The good thing about my system is that it goes for the numbers straights...Is a good system but it still needs work to be done on it...If someone can use it and take it a step further, then it will surely be something...Let me rephrase it perhaps it will sound different...If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system...That's all i am saying...

                          My system does not work

                          If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system.

                          Perhaps as a list of what numbers NOT to play. We call that a filter. LOL

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                            My system does not work

                            If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system.

                            Perhaps as a list of what numbers NOT to play. We call that a filter. LOL

                            LOL

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                            pumpi @ 12:53 pm: because the only way to crack pick4 is THROUGH my system

                            pumpi @ 3:38 pm: My system does not work, i can't make it to work,

                            lay off the pipe dude.

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                              My system does not work

                              If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system.

                              Perhaps as a list of what numbers NOT to play. We call that a filter. LOL

                              That sounds likes the system I'm already using for my Ohio Rolling Cash5 game.  It's a list of the the previous 1417 combinations drawn which I do NOT play and it has only been wrong twice when on 01/04/09 drawing matched all 5 numbers drawn on 06/21/07 and on 12/20/08 when the drawing matched the numbers drawn on 10/12/04.  Wink

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