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Early talks for a joint Powerball-British lottery game

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Tenaj's avatar - michellea
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Posted: February 13, 2009, 11:32 am - IP Logged

I hope they don't combine Powerball with any lottery.They'd just end up changing the matrix again..and not for the good.Hell,its damn near impossible to win as it is now.

I agree with MaddMike51.  That was the first thing I thought about.  Too many people in it already.

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    Posted: February 13, 2009, 2:09 pm - IP Logged

    I don't see such a game happening in this country.  The U.S. and other countries have very different ideas about how to run lotteries.  Some countries keep half of sales as their share for running the games and don't tax the winners where in the U.S. the states keeps half of sales for running the games and along with the Federal government tax the winners for 30% of his winnings.  I can't see U.S. politicians allowing states to contribute to a jackpot where they might not be able to tax the winners. 

    Beside a 50 millions dollar jackpot would look more attractive in a country that advertised its actual value rather than its potential annuity value and didn't tax the winners.

    I Agree!

    Keep dreaming the impossible dream, it just may come true! Thumbs Up

      Think's avatar - lightbulb
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      Posted: February 13, 2009, 10:31 pm - IP Logged

      A tech bubble, a credit bubble, what next?  A lottery bubble?

      I cant see why the individual states would want to ruin their lotteries further with all the money flowing out of state in those jackpots.  They would be gambling with their own income via tax dollars.  It could be years before anybody in their state won a jackpot and they would get to collect any taxes on it!   Why would the states want that??

      They are looking for a more steady stream of taxes.

      "The American Voter is too Stupid..."   Jonathan Gruber Obamacare Architect

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        Posted: February 14, 2009, 6:47 pm - IP Logged

        I support the combining of Mega and Powerball, but not if it means a tougher matrix, unless perhaps there is a way to win 5 or 10 MILL with similar odds to a regular Lotto game, and if the regular Lotto games are dumped because nobody plays them as much. I would like not having to travel to PA to play although once in a while it's fun. We should be able to play via online whatever the new game is. When a matrix changes it needs to make some of the lesser prizes easier even if the big jackpot is harder. PB should have added more bonus balls and less white balls. Also think of it this way as far as the price per ticket. For every $1 they keep 50c so for every $2 they'd keep $1, so what's the diff other than you have to use a better algorithm and play 1/2 the tickets? Some games in PA are already $2, and PowerPlay is $2 but the non-Jackpot prizes are at least 2X. I do win MM prizes much more often.

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          What would the jackpots be like? $500M? I don't think politicians would like that too much. A man or woman  with that kind of money without any dirt on them for leverage? are you kidding me? We'll see, won't we? :)

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            Posted: February 14, 2009, 9:02 pm - IP Logged

            A tech bubble, a credit bubble, what next?  A lottery bubble?

            I cant see why the individual states would want to ruin their lotteries further with all the money flowing out of state in those jackpots.  They would be gambling with their own income via tax dollars.  It could be years before anybody in their state won a jackpot and they would get to collect any taxes on it!   Why would the states want that??

            They are looking for a more steady stream of taxes.

            The states don't lose anything by adding a multi-state lottery, or an international one, if one should come along. The state collects their 50% right off the top, before putting a dime into the prize pool. The worst that happens is that the jackpot is won in another state, and the state doesn't collect any tax on the winnings. That's balanced against the taxes they collect on money spent in another state when the winning ticket is sold in the state. Even if they never sell a jackpot winner, all they miss out on is a chance to collect tax on jackpots that wouldn't have existed anyway, if they didn't offer that game.

            The only way a state will ever lose out by adding a new game is if that somehow reduces the total amount spent on tickets in that state, and that has never happened. Losing  a few million in sales for the state lottery isn't bad for the state when they sell more than that for the newly added multi-state game.

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              Posted: February 14, 2009, 9:49 pm - IP Logged

              The states don't lose anything by adding a multi-state lottery, or an international one, if one should come along. The state collects their 50% right off the top, before putting a dime into the prize pool. The worst that happens is that the jackpot is won in another state, and the state doesn't collect any tax on the winnings. That's balanced against the taxes they collect on money spent in another state when the winning ticket is sold in the state. Even if they never sell a jackpot winner, all they miss out on is a chance to collect tax on jackpots that wouldn't have existed anyway, if they didn't offer that game.

              The only way a state will ever lose out by adding a new game is if that somehow reduces the total amount spent on tickets in that state, and that has never happened. Losing  a few million in sales for the state lottery isn't bad for the state when they sell more than that for the newly added multi-state game.

              I was really pondering the bubble aspect of it from the inevitable drop in ticket sales when people realize how few and far between the jackpots are in their area.  Most people I know would not play any game after awhile if no jackpots are paid out anywhere near their area.

              Heck the Mega Millions has been on for comming on 13 years and the closest win to here has been about 400 miles away.  Even the second prizes are few and far between.  There have been two awarded around here so that is 6 1/2 years between second prizes!  On top of that I have never heard of anyone around here getting $10,000 on Mega.  With the multi country game it would only get worse!  I am begining to believe a Mega Mill jackpot might come around here once every couple hundred years.  So it really wouldn't be worth trying to chase a multi country pot since that would be thousands of years before it hit anywhere near here.

              The bubble would burst and down would come ticket sales, tax revenue and all.

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                Posted: February 15, 2009, 1:41 am - IP Logged

                 I heard a similar news from Korean websites. Camelot is planning for a worldwide lottery game and the jackpot amount will start from at least 500 million dollars. And they plan to make the odd really hard to beat so multi-billion-dollar jackpot will not be uncommon.

                 Actually, I don't want to play that kind of lottery. Winning a jackpot will put me on some major international kidnapping scheme. The winner's identity must be kept secret no matter what.

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                  I was really pondering the bubble aspect of it from the inevitable drop in ticket sales when people realize how few and far between the jackpots are in their area.  Most people I know would not play any game after awhile if no jackpots are paid out anywhere near their area.

                  Heck the Mega Millions has been on for comming on 13 years and the closest win to here has been about 400 miles away.  Even the second prizes are few and far between.  There have been two awarded around here so that is 6 1/2 years between second prizes!  On top of that I have never heard of anyone around here getting $10,000 on Mega.  With the multi country game it would only get worse!  I am begining to believe a Mega Mill jackpot might come around here once every couple hundred years.  So it really wouldn't be worth trying to chase a multi country pot since that would be thousands of years before it hit anywhere near here.

                  The bubble would burst and down would come ticket sales, tax revenue and all.

                  Of the 13 MM jackpots won in 2008, 3 were won in Michigan.  There are 12 MegaMillions states, you can't expect all the winners to be from Michigan.

                  10/03/08 - $43M
                  06/13/08 - $50M
                  04/01/08 - $135M

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    I hope they add australia to the pool as well, not that we're big spenders but we could sure use some one elses money to boost the economy.

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                      I'll tell you this, Massachusetts has only won one jackpot since 2003 december, when I first moved here. I guess someone can say we've been winning jack.

                      Ohio and NY and Michigan to me are the jackpot states. And Georgia too.

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                        I'll tell you this, Massachusetts has only won one jackpot since 2003 december, when I first moved here. I guess someone can say we've been winning jack.

                        Ohio and NY and Michigan to me are the jackpot states. And Georgia too.

                        Judging by the population of each state as reported on the LottoReport website, California, New York and Texas should be the biggest winners.  New York buy more MM tickets per person than any of the other states.

                        California - 35,893,799
                        Georgia - 8,829,383
                        Illinois - 12,713,634
                        Maryland - 5,558,058
                        Massachusetts - 6,416,505
                        Michigan - 10,112,620
                        New Jersey - 8,698,879
                        New York - 19,227,088
                        Ohio - 11,459,011
                        Texas - 23,899,000
                        Virginia - 7,459,827
                        Washington - 6,203,788 

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          Of the 13 MM jackpots won in 2008, 3 were won in Michigan.  There are 12 MegaMillions states, you can't expect all the winners to be from Michigan.

                          10/03/08 - $43M
                          06/13/08 - $50M
                          04/01/08 - $135M

                          I wrote-

                          "Heck the Mega Millions has been on for comming on 13 years and the closest win to here has been about 400 miles away."

                          I take it you have cursor hypnosis RJ Smile

                          "The American Voter is too Stupid..."   Jonathan Gruber Obamacare Architect

                          "There is no sin except stupidity" Oscar Wilde

                          https://books.google.com/books?id=apm21IcqhmcC&pg=PP6&lpg=PP6&dq=americans+can+tolerate+just+about+anything+except+stupidity&source=bl&ots=tq9QUeP46j&sig=qXfXEz-wh_yUQSsE8DZG0ZjABls&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil8YSjmuDPAhWF7IMKHV11A0kQ6AEIUzAI#v=onepage&q=americans%20can%20tolerate%20just%20about%20anything%20except%20stupidity&f=false


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                            I wrote-

                            "Heck the Mega Millions has been on for comming on 13 years and the closest win to here has been about 400 miles away."

                            I take it you have cursor hypnosis RJ Smile

                            i think until luck  is on your side you can just keep trying blindly!!


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                              Posted: February 15, 2009, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

                               now i would like to say i  think it would be a bad idea to consolidat the lottery international we have a hard enough time trying win with 13 states involved already. My answer is no! no! let keep it in the state. final!