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Frequent lottery wins by retailers investigated

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taxijohn's avatar - odometer444
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Posted: October 5, 2009, 10:57 am - IP Logged

A few days ago, a Dollar store owner in Tarrytown NY took off having something to do with Lottery fraud. he just vanished, store is in shambles.

 

These retailers cash lottery tickets for persons who can't report income such as people on welfare, workers comp., people who are illegal aliens, owe child support etc. etc.

 

That's why the one guy on the video couldn't remember buying the $5K lottery ticket at th mall, becasue he didn't buy it. He probably gave $2,500.00 for the $5K ticket.

    taxijohn's avatar - odometer444
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    Posted: October 5, 2009, 11:08 am - IP Logged

    They pay 2 to 1 on most tickets to illegal aliens, people on welfare, workers comp. Etc. They also do the old, "nope, not a winner" scam by keeping the ticket, or like some else said, tearing it up and then tapping it up and cashing it later on.

    A dollar store owner in Tarrytown NY has vanished just last week, store is empty, ransacked.  It is alleged that he pulled off some kind of lottery scam.

    These guys are creeps, regardless of what "awards" they have.

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      Posted: October 5, 2009, 6:29 pm - IP Logged

      If you believe that bull, I have a nice waterfront property I would love to sell you in Florida!!

      Those people 98% were not born American.  There is no way they could win 65 times in less than three month!!!  I hope the lottery Commision takes note and puts in Video footage showing how they win!!  I think they must be cashing in other winners tickets!!!

      That really upsets me with I play 5 days a week and only win back $2.00 or $3.00!!  As Ricky use to say something smell rotten in Denmark!!

      Lots of Luck Serious players

      Joey

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        Posted: October 7, 2009, 4:11 pm - IP Logged

        I honestly think there scanning all the tickets they recieve and they pick out all the winners. I've seen someone working at a gas station do that before.

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          Posted: October 8, 2009, 10:49 am - IP Logged

          In this 2-part video report, MSNBC revealed the findings of their investigation, in which the most frequent lottery winners were almost always retailers.

          To view the report, please click on Part 1 of the report below.  When Part 1 has finished playing, continue by clicking Part 2 of the report.

          Part 1

          http://media.lpimg.com/2009100201.mp4

          Part 2

          http://media.lpimg.com/2009100202.mp4

          It is obvious what they are doing.  I win; they buy my ticket and make a profit. I on the other hand, for tax purposes, I have no income from lottery wins. The money I got for selling my ticket do not get reported as income.  That's the way it is. . At the races in any track, you can find people that will claim your prize for you.  They tell you what they will expect up front.  I win $2000; they will claim the prize for $400 - $500. I pocket $1500 - $1600 unreported income. That's the way it is.

          If you think you can or if you think you can't you are right!

          Today could be the day!

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            Posted: October 12, 2009, 11:27 am - IP Logged

            This the secret , most time the retailers buy the tickets from the winners because the winners do not want to pay taxes directly on a win. The retailer buy the ticket less the value minus tax. People do this to hide their identity or get their winning faster thru the retailer cash it as his.

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              Posted: October 15, 2009, 9:54 pm - IP Logged
              Lottery retailers are given a "lottery post" of all remaining prizes on each scratch-off every month (the actual number) I know because I saw it after inquiring about "Funky Five" a scratch-off that is "suppose" to be open until June of 2010 in New York, yet no one in my area seems to be selling it. (Nor did I read of anyone winning the top prize of 555,555). The clerk whipped out a 3 page booklet and checked because he claimed it was discontinued..I said no, the website claims otherwise. I was of course correct and then intriqued I asked if I could keep the "lottery post" booklet he showed me and he said no. "It was for retailers only". If lottery retailers are allowed this info then why is it not public information to all customers that come in to buy tickets? It should be up there on the wall along with all the winners.  The lotto clerk sits there for 8 or more hours a day seeing what's winning, losing and selling as well as scrutinizing a list not made for the public? I dont care how you slice and dice it's an unfair advantage. Either post the same information for all customers who come in to buy or don't allow lottery clerks to buy scratch-offs. Is this corruption or just a failure of understanding how corruption can breed? C'mon!
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                Posted: October 15, 2009, 10:48 pm - IP Logged

                yea def..  but its RANDOM though because most people that play scrach off tickets they can see it on the ticket if they are winners or not OF COURSE. for example  I myself. i play scrach off ticket i scrach it off its very simpel the KEY is you  must know how to play the scrach off game.  if i see i match someting on the ticket than i cash it in. i dont just give to retailer,  i check if i am winner or not  people are being fooled because most of them DOESNT know how to PLAY the scrach off ticket and they just give it to the retailer to check it on the lottery computer  LOOOLLLLL   this is WRONG..  DONT DO THAT. yes they might say NO you are not winner and CASH IT for themselves  get your ticket back when they scan it for you and go to at least THREE more stores if someting isnt right  yes it happens money talks fools walks ahah i just made that up ahahaha. peace people .

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                  Posted: October 15, 2009, 10:59 pm - IP Logged

                  Even of average intelligence, the Lottery Retail Clerk has an advantage. Private information that is not provided for consumers provides enough information to Lottery Clerks to figure out best odds on winning scratch-off tickets whilst they are working.....8 hours or more. I happen to believe  that if I spent that much time studying the factors...I could win too.

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                    Posted: October 15, 2009, 11:25 pm - IP Logged

                    Dont you see?  "A Lottery Clerk of average intelligence", watching people buy scratch-Off tickets..lose..win...whatever, they have an advantage over the "joe" who walks in from the street.

                    Contests usually have explicit rules, for a reason. People involved are not allowed to participate.  It would not be accepted any where else, why now? Because the Government has a piece of the pie. Only way it could happen. Sorry,  that's the truth. Honestly I should've become a Lottery Clerk.....Cuz "I'd BE RICh BY NOW" ;)

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                      Posted: October 16, 2009, 12:18 am - IP Logged

                      But you "could" see more ......if same info were to be given to each player? yes?

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                        Posted: October 18, 2009, 12:51 am - IP Logged

                        I Agree! The same thing happens here in South Carolina.  The same clerks seem to cash in winning scratch-offs all the time.  They have a system going...for instance, more than a few have told me that winners come in a roll.  You have a roll of non-winners and a roll of winners.  If you buy 2 or 3 winning tickets in one roll...than that roll is a winner and they will encourage you to buy from it (if they like you).  My mother was told by one clerk NOT to buy from that roll because it was a loser....my mom didn't trust her and bought the next ticket...guess what...she won 200.00.  The clerk was NOT happy.  She had her sister in line behind my mom waiting to buy the entire roll.  This happens a lot.  People who buy scratch-offs understand.  Some go in for the entire roll....and it's been proven...some are a losing batch and some a winning batch. 

                        If you worked the counter for 8 hours, it's easy to pick up on the "winning or losing" batch....then you just call a friend or relative to buy tickets from that batch without you risking your job.  Think about it....many times when you go into the same gas station the person working the counter usually has a friend/relative hanging around keeping them company while they work....have you ever noticed them scratching off tickets? 

                        Heck, I've seen clerks buy tickets themselves or write down pick 3/4 numbers that a customer ahead just played.  They'll say, he's pretty lucky...wanna know what he played so u can play it to?  I'm playing it right after work. 

                        I believe that there are truly lucky people in this world...but come on...not THIS lucky THIS often!

                        About a couple of months ago I witnessed about 5-7 Mexicans buying a roll of $10.00 tickets for a price of $300.00.  They were all counting out the money and the store owner came from the back with a brand new roll...they all huddled together with the store manager, talked a bit and then he scanned in the tickets and gave it to them.  I wonder what kind of deal they worked out to make them all have to talk really low.   I'm assuming that he probably agreed to cash in the winning tickets for them for a fee since they may not have had identification....I don't know...but why hide the fact that you're buying a roll of tickets?  What was all the secrecy about?  I'd like to know how many winning tickets this store owner has purchased.  It would be hard to figure out since South Carolina allows you to claim tickets anonymously.

                        I have Definitelyheard clerks tell their "favorite customers" which roll is a winning roll and which one is not.  And they have their friends sitting around in the store scratching away.  Once, when this particular clerk was in, I watched and listened as I ate my sandwich.  Then I got in line and the next two tcikets I bought were nice winners! It is all a racket, I think.  If I overhear how to get the big jackpot, I will be all ears and play...that will be a shared jackpot!  LOL!Party