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Tenn. lottery scholarships outstrip revenue; day of reckoning looms

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Posted: December 23, 2009, 1:44 am - IP Logged

To enhance Lottery sales, the very best thing TN could do is pick $Million Dollar winners! Forget the "one winning ticket" curse!

Pick a ticket for each Million in the pot.

They are giving away the same amount of money to more winners. It seems like that's more money in circulation etc.

I liked the Ping Pong Balls too. What the heck was wrong with that?

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    Posted: December 23, 2009, 1:11 pm - IP Logged

    i agree with adamc and thudpucker...

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      Posted: December 24, 2009, 3:04 am - IP Logged

      The Tennessee Lottery could raise additional revenue if the has a subscription service. I have just checked it's website and they don't offer a subscription service. If they did have one I would subscribe.

       

      I read of it's site, "More Than $1.5 Billion Raised For Education!", which is very impressive.

       

      I was also thinking that recipients of scholarship awards should contribute to the scholarship program. I still donate to my college every year to assist current and future students; we all have a civic duty to give back.

      We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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        Posted: December 24, 2009, 4:53 am - IP Logged

        I wish TN had a subscription too. It cost's me $27 in gas to make a lotto ticket trip.

        Now that they dont use Ping Pong balls any more I think I'll stick to the states with subcriptions that use 'natural' drawings.

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          Posted: December 24, 2009, 6:56 am - IP Logged

          Even if they did go back to ball drawings ,they would rig that too..No one is going to do anything about Tn Lottery.

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            Posted: December 24, 2009, 9:58 am - IP Logged

            I think I was standing in line behind one of the Tennessee Lottery scholarship fund directors at Wal Mart yesterday. They had a cart full of stuff but didn't have enough money to pay for it so they started giving back some of the items.

            What I don't understand is why would the Tennessee Lottery scholarship fund say they would distribute an actual amount of money based on projected lottery profits. But then again we are talking about state legislators that believe Rebecca Hargrove is the best Lottery Director in the world.

            I can't wait to hear her excuses why her projections fell short by $20 to $30 million dollars.

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              Even if they did go back to ball drawings ,they would rig that too..No one is going to do anything about Tn Lottery.

              I dont believe that. I dont think you can screw up the pingpong balls.
              As well as the theory of how many payoffs the state would have to make to ensure that 'cheating' information would not leak!

              Years ago a two of us went up to the bingo parler and experiemented with 10 ping pong balls. Zero through Nine.
              We messed around up there with three balls as well.
              You just cannot predict the drop of the ball. No one ball dropping has any relationship to the last or the next.

              The numeral "8" does not weigh more than the numeral "1"
              With thier machine a ball that wieghd more, would never go down past the air dam. We used syrup.

              Ping pong Balls are safe. What they do with the Computer info, as far as processing the winning ticket might be suspect, but not the Ping Pong balls.

              If you know of a "Cheat" that happed with the balls, I'd like to know about it too please.

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                Posted: December 24, 2009, 1:17 pm - IP Logged

                Coats of paint put on a ball.

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                  Posted: December 24, 2009, 4:51 pm - IP Logged

                  Coats of paint put on a ball.

                  We found the heavier balls wouldnt go down. So only the lighter balls might count.

                  I think too many people would have to be bribed to keep something like that quiet.

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                    Posted: December 26, 2009, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

                    i agree 100 percent i have quit playing

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                      Posted: December 26, 2009, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

                      i agree 100 percent i have quit playing

                      Don't give up tnwinner.

                      TN can't rig the Powerball. Keep a buck in there, you never know.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: December 26, 2009, 10:05 pm - IP Logged

                        Don't give up tnwinner.

                        TN can't rig the Powerball. Keep a buck in there, you never know.

                        There is no reason to think TN is cheating!

                        Go ahead and play. If I get a ride up there, I'll play.

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                          If Tennessee would make their games more player friendly they might not have a shortfall.  While they are checking, they need to see how many of these students got the TN Lottery education grant who have since dropped out of college.  Might shake up their numbers a bit.  The board only uses the numbers of the current projections..surely someone is checking upon how many have become academically unqualified or who have dropped out.  Ya Think?

                          You are EXACTLY right with 'checking who actually graduates'.  There is a non-government program starting here in CNY to fund kids going to college and they are saying that ALL kids should now be able to go to college.  Problem is when you take away the 'cost' of the education then many students will 'try' but then since they have nothing invested they will drop out and not finish.  

                          I think they should fund more basic programs while students are STILL in high school.  If you make sure you reduce the drop out rate and maybe give a few more a trade/skill when coming out it would benefit us all alot more.

                          Ten years from now history is going to show that making college free only increases the drop out rate.  Sure you will see a very-very-very small increase in graduation but the cost will not be worth it.

                          Money won is twice as good as money earned!

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                            Posted: December 27, 2009, 7:25 am - IP Logged

                            I dropped out of Engineering because I had to work to eat. School was way out of my 'entry level job' budget.

                            If I had found some body to pay at least a large enough portion of my school expenses, so I only had to work three days a week or so, I might have made it.

                            Today, I'd starve all prisoners to death, in order to make school money available for kids who want more education.
                            Thats one good way to avoid so much crime in the future.

                            What about us older guys who'd like to change vocation? We'd like to have a Sugar Daddy to fund some courses.

                            The powers that fund are stuck on 'Degrees' If you want the money for school, you have to sign up for a Degree program.

                            But I dont want a Degree. I just want tools to work with.

                            So the dropout rate might be tied to people who had to sign up for a "Degree" to get funding. But those folks only wanted some "tools" for work, and left when they had all they wanted.
                            Statistically it looks like they are Dropouts!

                             

                            One more thing TN (et al) could do with the winnings to get people to play more is increse the winnings of 3 and 4 number draws.

                            Playing for $5 is not very interesting. They dont have to increase the number of draws, that will come if the Draws pay enough to increase interest in buying tickets.

                            That all seems so simple to me. What the hell am I missing here?

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                              Posted: December 27, 2009, 8:24 am - IP Logged

                              I dropped out of Engineering because I had to work to eat. School was way out of my 'entry level job' budget.

                              If I had found some body to pay at least a large enough portion of my school expenses, so I only had to work three days a week or so, I might have made it.

                              Today, I'd starve all prisoners to death, in order to make school money available for kids who want more education.
                              Thats one good way to avoid so much crime in the future.

                              What about us older guys who'd like to change vocation? We'd like to have a Sugar Daddy to fund some courses.

                              The powers that fund are stuck on 'Degrees' If you want the money for school, you have to sign up for a Degree program.

                              But I dont want a Degree. I just want tools to work with.

                              So the dropout rate might be tied to people who had to sign up for a "Degree" to get funding. But those folks only wanted some "tools" for work, and left when they had all they wanted.
                              Statistically it looks like they are Dropouts!

                               

                              One more thing TN (et al) could do with the winnings to get people to play more is increse the winnings of 3 and 4 number draws.

                              Playing for $5 is not very interesting. They dont have to increase the number of draws, that will come if the Draws pay enough to increase interest in buying tickets.

                              That all seems so simple to me. What the hell am I missing here?

                              Another good point.  We are so focused on the 'degree' that we miss the point of education to 'step' people up.  I am in banking and we used to have the American Bankers Association that would give us courses after work.  They were great, but in the late 90's they disappeared.  It used to be that you had to take those courses to move up in the bank but now its just about who you know.

                              I do have a good way to help 'weed-out' those who would not complete school.  Make the money a 'loan' and it is forgiven when you graduate.  That way if you don't finish you then have to pay it back.  It also will make those on the 'edge' of going/not going have to think before going.

                              Money won is twice as good as money earned!