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Ct. man claims he lost $254M Powerball ticket

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Posted: November 9, 2011, 11:20 am - IP Logged

Unclaimed Jackpots should be put into the very next Jackpot after the time limit for claiming expires.

Or used to increase secondary prizes until it's used up.

It should never be put into one state's general fund - that's not what the people bought the tickets for.

Unclaimed Jackpots should be put into the very next Jackpot after the time limit for claiming expires".

Sounds like a pretty good idea..

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Hope the real-winner (finds the tkt ?) comes forward ... kuz that'd be one hell'of'a FAIL !! Yixe -


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    Posted: November 9, 2011, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

    Nah, not now but we lose power pretty regular here. Goes off for a minute or so at least once or twice a day. Sugarbritches can reset the clocks faster than a rat can cross a roof with a piece of raw liver in his mouth but she's gettin' tired of it, I'm here to testify.

    We lose it for days sometimes in the winter when the trees commence to comin' down with the snow. That's when I play Tennessee Chainsaw Massacre. I got a mask like the skin mask the guy wore in the movie, scares the hell out of the McNutt's down the mountain.

    Rdgrn, I don't know who you think ,thinks you're a hill billyNo No .A hill billy can't speak or write as well as you, you might be something else but hill billy isn't it, I notice things like that. This man have to be sick if he really lost this jackpot! my condolences to him.Crying

      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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      Rdgrn, I don't know who you think ,thinks you're a hill billyNo No .A hill billy can't speak or write as well as you, you might be something else but hill billy isn't it, I notice things like that. This man have to be sick if he really lost this jackpot! my condolences to him.Crying

      Well thank you, Louise.

      This is heartening news after being called an ignorant, uneducated, poor white trash bigot by Tenaj the other day in the Blogs.

      I was feeling pretty downtrodden after that, as I'm sure you can well imagine.

      But I was nice to her anyway.

      I even corrected all her misspelled words, poor sentence structure, grammatical errors, mixed metaphors, dangling participles and lack of proper punctuation for her.

      I'm sure she was just having a bad day.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

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        Posted: November 9, 2011, 4:01 pm - IP Logged

        People claiming they bought a winning ticket seems to be a commonplace event. Some of them probably really believe it, and some of them are probably just hoping that it won't be claimed by somebody else and they'll manage a story that's convincing enough.

        If the guy said they "were his numbers" that might mean he plays those numbers regularly. If that's true he may have tickets from previous drawings with those numbers, and having  them will be very good evidence, especially if they were bought at the store that sold the winner. If he doesn't have old tickets he still may be able to tell where and when he has played those numbers before and may have a credit card receipt that coincides with the time and place of a purchase.

        As for the specific rules on claiming prizes, I expect it's up to the state to decide. In NY you need to pay a fee to try and claim without a ticket. IIRC it's $100, or perhaps $150. That  should eliminate most of the frivoulous claims, and cover the cost of a preliminary investigation that will weed out most false claims quickly.

        You bring up a very valid point in him (guy that lost ticket) finding previous tickets with the same set of numbers. Without it, I believe he is just full of it...just like alicia battles from Ohio a few years back.

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          You bring up a very valid point in him (guy that lost ticket) finding previous tickets with the same set of numbers. Without it, I believe he is just full of it...just like alicia battles from Ohio a few years back.

          Like i said in another post....This guy is full of donkey dust....Just a gut feeling...I Agree!

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            Posted: November 10, 2011, 6:51 am - IP Logged

            I've heard the lottery can be pretty strict about people who take the winning tickets of others.  Someone who finds (steals) a jackpot-winning ticket can always be sued for the money if someone else tries to claim it when they weren't the one that purchased it.  There are security cameras and they can be traced back to the exact time the ticket was bought I'd imagine.

             

            However, it is irresponsible for someone to lose a ticket like this.  I always put my tickets in a special binder and sign them. I always scan tickets and save all tickets for future second chance drawings if they happen to arise (sometimes they do randomly and if you throw out your tickets, you can't enter). I think that there should be a reward offered for the ticket if someone gives it back to him.

             

            If I were a lottery director I would have a way for people to get player's cards that can be scanned every time they buy lottery to review their transactions online and include their ticket numbers in case the tickets were ever lost as additional proof of purchase. 

             

            I love playing the lottery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Closest I have gotten its 5/6 numbers in Ohio Classic Lotto for the 47.1 Million Dollar drawing on 9/28/11.  So close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

             

            Note: I got 3/6 #'s in this 245 million powerball drawing.  Not bad...ALWAYS TRY!!! But don't overextend yourself on powerball..the odds are not fair.  It also would seem better to play less numbers, but always to powerplay because the odds of winning a million are a bit easier!!

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              I've heard the lottery can be pretty strict about people who take the winning tickets of others.  Someone who finds (steals) a jackpot-winning ticket can always be sued for the money if someone else tries to claim it when they weren't the one that purchased it.  There are security cameras and they can be traced back to the exact time the ticket was bought I'd imagine.

               

              However, it is irresponsible for someone to lose a ticket like this.  I always put my tickets in a special binder and sign them. I always scan tickets and save all tickets for future second chance drawings if they happen to arise (sometimes they do randomly and if you throw out your tickets, you can't enter). I think that there should be a reward offered for the ticket if someone gives it back to him.

               

              If I were a lottery director I would have a way for people to get player's cards that can be scanned every time they buy lottery to review their transactions online and include their ticket numbers in case the tickets were ever lost as additional proof of purchase. 

               

              I love playing the lottery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Closest I have gotten its 5/6 numbers in Ohio Classic Lotto for the 47.1 Million Dollar drawing on 9/28/11.  So close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

               

              Note: I got 3/6 #'s in this 245 million powerball drawing.  Not bad...ALWAYS TRY!!! But don't overextend yourself on powerball..the odds are not fair.  It also would seem better to play less numbers, but always to powerplay because the odds of winning a million are a bit easier!!

              That's an interesting point you brought up about people cashing other people's tickets.

              The lotteries always say to sign your tickets because they are bearer instruments and can be cashed by anybody if they aren't signed.

              That's always made me wonder if you find a ticket on the ground is it then yours the same as when you find a dollar on the ground, and if not, what are you supposed to do with it?

              They make it sound like it is yours to cash in when they call it a bearer instrument.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

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                "They make it sound like it is yours to cash in when they call it a bearer instrument."

                Only to those who don't understand what bearer instrument actually means. "Bearer instrument" is simply a term that differentiates unregistered financial instruments from registered financial instruments.  A bearer instrument is like any other property for which ownership isn't registered, such as an expensive necklace. I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to think that the rightful owner of a lottery ticket loses ownership if the ticket is stolen, but a lot of people can't see beyond that two word phrase when the ticket is lost instead of stolen.

                The law in all civilized areas is very clear on ownership of lost property, whether it's a lottery ticket, cash, or an expensive necklace. The property only becomes yours after making a legitimate effort to locate the rightful owner, waiting for the period required, and complying with any other requirements of the applicable law. Technically the law applies whether you find a dollar or a lottery ticket worth 254 million dollars. As a practical matter the effort required for locating the owner of something with a small value outweights the value, so there's extremely little legal risk in simply keeping it.

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                  "They make it sound like it is yours to cash in when they call it a bearer instrument."

                  Only to those who don't understand what bearer instrument actually means. "Bearer instrument" is simply a term that differentiates unregistered financial instruments from registered financial instruments.  A bearer instrument is like any other property for which ownership isn't registered, such as an expensive necklace. I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to think that the rightful owner of a lottery ticket loses ownership if the ticket is stolen, but a lot of people can't see beyond that two word phrase when the ticket is lost instead of stolen.

                  The law in all civilized areas is very clear on ownership of lost property, whether it's a lottery ticket, cash, or an expensive necklace. The property only becomes yours after making a legitimate effort to locate the rightful owner, waiting for the period required, and complying with any other requirements of the applicable law. Technically the law applies whether you find a dollar or a lottery ticket worth 254 million dollars. As a practical matter the effort required for locating the owner of something with a small value outweights the value, so there's extremely little legal risk in simply keeping it.

                  "I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to think that the rightful owner of a lottery ticket loses ownership if the ticket is stolen..."

                  Yeah right, tell that to Willis Willis and the Texas Lottery Commission.

                  You might find Willis in Katmandu looking for the money that he didn't lose ownership of because the Texas Lottery told him he did lose ownership of it when they paid the bearer who promptly jetted for Katmandu.


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

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                    "I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to think that the rightful owner of a lottery ticket loses ownership if the ticket is stolen..."

                    Yeah right, tell that to Willis Willis and the Texas Lottery Commission.

                    You might find Willis in Katmandu looking for the money that he didn't lose ownership of because the Texas Lottery told him he did lose ownership of it when they paid the bearer who promptly jetted for Katmandu.

                    So what's your point? That if you lose something or have it stolen you don't always get it back? That's why it's a good idea to be careful with your valuables.

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                      So what's your point? That if you lose something or have it stolen you don't always get it back? That's why it's a good idea to be careful with your valuables.

                      My point is exactly what I originally said, that the Lottery people say the ticket is a Bearer Instrument which can be cashed in by anybody if it's not signed.

                      Willis Willis' claims of ownership didn't mean anything to the Texas Lottery. He signed the ticket and they paid him. 

                      Ownership, Schmownership, if Punjab Patel from the 7-11 is in Katmandu with your money, you don't own jack.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: November 13, 2011, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

                        All this Patel paranoia is pathetic.

                        How you do anything is how you do everything.

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                          All this Patel paranoia is pathetic.

                            I Agree!>>>>>>all D Patel paranoia is pathetic Big Grin Angel PukeI Agree!

                          Where did I put the DAM TICKET $$$$$ + $  ???????

                           U can call me an a American hillbilly & I won't CARE !!!!

                          Where'$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that TICKET?

                          Come on now gimmie that DAM TICKET BACK PukePuke

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                            Posted: November 13, 2011, 6:55 pm - IP Logged

                            This guy is feeling really down and out right now.Can you imagine what he'll be feeling when he finds the $254 million dollar PowerBall ticket after the 180 days are up.The rules are the rules!.           

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                              "They make it sound like it is yours to cash in when they call it a bearer instrument."

                              Only to those who don't understand what bearer instrument actually means. "Bearer instrument" is simply a term that differentiates unregistered financial instruments from registered financial instruments.  A bearer instrument is like any other property for which ownership isn't registered, such as an expensive necklace. I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to think that the rightful owner of a lottery ticket loses ownership if the ticket is stolen, but a lot of people can't see beyond that two word phrase when the ticket is lost instead of stolen.

                              The law in all civilized areas is very clear on ownership of lost property, whether it's a lottery ticket, cash, or an expensive necklace. The property only becomes yours after making a legitimate effort to locate the rightful owner, waiting for the period required, and complying with any other requirements of the applicable law. Technically the law applies whether you find a dollar or a lottery ticket worth 254 million dollars. As a practical matter the effort required for locating the owner of something with a small value outweights the value, so there's extremely little legal risk in simply keeping it.

                              "The law in all civilized areas is very clear on ownership of lost property, whether it's a lottery ticket, cash, or an expensive necklace."

                              Yesterday when I got out my car to buy some gas a quarter was laying on ground. Where I can find the law that clearly explains what I should do with the quarter?