Judge rules man has no right to ex-girlfriend's lottery winnings

Feb 8, 2012, 10:57 am (51 comments)

Florida Lottery

A Seminole County, Florida, man who sued his ex-girlfriend for half of her $1 million Florida Lottery winnings went away empty-handed Tuesday, her attorney said.

After 1½ days of testimony, Circuit Judge Alan Dickey ruled in favor of defendant Lynn Anne Poirier in what's known as a directed verdict — meaning the plaintiff's case was deemed legally insufficient.

Howard Browning, who is unemployed, and Poirier, a Seminole County special-education teacher for more than three decades, had lived together for 16 years, he said. They agreed that if either ever won a lottery, they would share the winnings, he contended. In 2007, he gave her $20 for a ticket, and she won, he argued in court.

Poirier disputes that account, said her attorney, Mark Sessums of Lakeland. Poirier bought the ticket herself, never agreed to share any winnings, had been trying to get Browning to leave her Geneva farmhouse for some time and eventually evicted him, Sessums said. She later sold the house.

Orlando Sentinel

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mcginnin56

BOO-HOO!  for poor Howard Browning.     Crying

Here's a news flash..........get a job, and start buying your own lotto tickets.   No No    Poke

MississippiMudd

I wonder?  If he bought the winning ticket and she sued him, would the judge rule the same way?

TheGameGrl's avatarTheGameGrl

Quote: Originally posted by MississippiMudd on Feb 8, 2012

I wonder?  If he bought the winning ticket and she sued him, would the judge rule the same way?

I must concur. Simply put IF he were a stay at home Dad raising her children/their kids, the courts would still side with the lady. Reason being...us women are to appear helpless and need all the govt help possible to reach the status of men. By the way..I do NOT adhere to that statement...its an observation I have seen with living 50 years on this earth and watching as Justice is swiftly blinded by gender. She graciously "evicted" him after she most likely had the monies in hand...What a back handed thing to do.

I'm sure there is MORE To both sides of this story...but the judge ruled...and someone is left the fool.

Littleoldlady's avatarLittleoldlady

Quote: Originally posted by MississippiMudd on Feb 8, 2012

I wonder?  If he bought the winning ticket and she sued him, would the judge rule the same way?

Probably not.  That is why I don't condone folks "living together" for long periods of time.  Someone always gets the short end of the stick.  If he had married her, she would have had to split..regardless.

TheRightPrice

Scared OMG! I'm so sick and tired of hearing about all these people who want to sue others for lottery winnings that DO NOT BELONG TO THEMScared

VenomV12

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

Theres something to be said for that little piece of paper...the marriage license.

1977's avatar1977

Quote: Originally posted by Cletu$2 on Feb 8, 2012

Theres something to be said for that little piece of paper...the marriage license.

I argee with that!!!!! Shacking Up never pays off-----

Reign22

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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Smart idea...never thought to sign the ticket even if it was a gift because they can't claim it without you!

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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Ahh Jeeeze.

I'd tell ya to keep it.

Unfrigginbelievable.

Uff Da!'s avatarUff Da!

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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OMG, a gift is a gift is a gift.  If you don't want to give a lottery ticket as a gift, completely and totally, then just don't do it!

In the case in the original article, it is hard to really know from the facts given whether the two ever agreed to share or not.  The burden of proof was on him, and he couldn't prove it.  If two or more people want to make such an agreement, shacking up or not, the solution is simple - just get it in writing and have it notarized!

Seattlejohn

What a loser.  Here's a tip, dude: grow up, get a job and pay your own way... just like the rest of us.

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

It is a bad idea to begin or continue living with someone, or maintaining a relationship, when one does not enjoy the other person's company; because it sends unhelpful messages and feelings towards them.  It is unhelpful to both people and others around them.

What?

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

There's a few wimmins out there livin' in houses I bought that if I'da had my druthers I'da lived with 'em instead of marryin' 'em.

Cuz like ol' Merle Haggard said:

 

My hat don't hang on the same nail too long

My ears can't stand to hear the same ol' song

And I don't leave the highway long enough

To bog down in the mud

Cuz I got Ramblin' Fever in my blood

 

I caught this Ramblin' Fever long ago

When I first heard a lonesome whistle blow

And if someone said I ever gave a dam

They dam sure told you wrong

Cuz I've had Ramblin' Fever all along

 

Sometimes I like to bed down on a sofa

And let some pretty lady rub my back

Spend the early mornin' drinkin' coffee

Talkin' about when I'll be coming back

 

But I don't let no woman tie me down

And I'll never get too old to get around

I wanna die along the hi-way and rot away

Like some old hi-line pole

And rest this Ramblin' Fever in my soul

rad242

Quote: Originally posted by Reign22 on Feb 8, 2012

Smart idea...never thought to sign the ticket even if it was a gift because they can't claim it without you!

That is completely absurd! It's not their ticket if you endorse the back of it. BEARER INSTRUMENT.

 

I want to win like every other player but not that desperate that I would buy lottery tickets as stalking stuffers and endorse them before I distribute them. My family and friends are not SHELL CORPORATIONS that house my assets - lol!

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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VenomV12, the above is not a good "GIFT" to give to someone.  It essentially would indicate that if the ticket won the minimum prize of $2, or so, that you would be requiring half of that to go to you.  $1 is a cheap gift of you indeed!!!

To extend this line of thinking if you, VenomV12, gave someone a "gift" of  a watch, it shouldn't be exciting OR well received by them if the receiver then turns the watch over to read your name engraved into the back side!!! 

Such a bizarre, unhelpful, insulting, and unreasonable behavior would probably soon end what ever thin relationship existed between two people. I think you should cease this practice from now on.

Crying

VenomV12

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Feb 8, 2012

VenomV12, the above is not a good "GIFT" to give to someone.  It essentially would indicate that if the ticket won the minimum prize of $2, or so, that you would be requiring half of that to go to you.  $1 is a cheap gift of you indeed!!!

To extend this line of thinking if you, VenomV12, gave someone a "gift" of  a watch, it shouldn't be exciting OR well received by them if the receiver then turns the watch over to read your name engraved into the back side!!! 

Such a bizarre, unhelpful, insulting, and unreasonable behavior would probably soon end what ever thin relationship existed between two people. I think you should cease this practice from now on.

Crying

Did you go to school?

The analogy of a watch compared to a lottery ticket that is capable of winning millions is completely offbase. 

If you give a watch as a gift there is no reason to engrave your name on the back, there is no chance of it producing vast sums of money in the future. I am pretty sure a $150 Seiko is not going to end up being worth $20 million anytime in the future. 

And to answer the question of signing the back of the ticket to the others, you know there is room on the back for more than one signature. I sign it, they sign it also and if anyone gives me tickets and I make them sign it also even if they don't want to. It keeps everyone honest and there are no bad feelings. 

It is idiotic to suggest that if someone wins $2 I am going to ask for $1 back. For one, the small prizes, usually under $500, can be cashed without having to go to the lottery office anyway and without signature verification so that is not even an issue. 

I have lived long enough on this earth to know not to trust human beings. It is nice to assume that if you gave someone a ticket and they won millions that they would be good people and share some of the winnings with you. The reality is that 9 out of 10 times they won't. This method also keeps your sanity so that you don't sit up at night agonizing over the fact that you bought the once in a lifetime winning ticket and gave it away and now you have nothing. 

I bought a ticket for the Powerball today with my brother and we both signed it. If it wins, we split the money evenly, end of story, no arguments, no issues. 

We all come on this board because we play the lottery and want to win it, don't tell me that if you gave someone a ticket and it won millions and then they told you to take a hike and were giving you nothing you would just shrug your shoulders and walk away, you would be livid and would smash everything in sight.

time*treat's avatartime*treat

Meh. Reverse the roles and the ruling would be the reverse, too.

savagegoose's avatarsavagegoose

if i got a ticket with someones name on the back , as a present, id tear it up infront of them, save any dramas later.

 

as to the what would i do if the ticket won?

it only ever cost me $5 or what ever, im only ever down $5. actually its rather a cheap present. If i was to resent someone winning i wouldnt buy them a ticket., period.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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Do you have family members sign over half their future earnings if you give money as a gift just in case they end up rich as a result of that gift?

Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Did you go to school?

The analogy of a watch compared to a lottery ticket that is capable of winning millions is completely offbase. 

If you give a watch as a gift there is no reason to engrave your name on the back, there is no chance of it producing vast sums of money in the future. I am pretty sure a $150 Seiko is not going to end up being worth $20 million anytime in the future. 

And to answer the question of signing the back of the ticket to the others, you know there is room on the back for more than one signature. I sign it, they sign it also and if anyone gives me tickets and I make them sign it also even if they don't want to. It keeps everyone honest and there are no bad feelings. 

It is idiotic to suggest that if someone wins $2 I am going to ask for $1 back. For one, the small prizes, usually under $500, can be cashed without having to go to the lottery office anyway and without signature verification so that is not even an issue. 

I have lived long enough on this earth to know not to trust human beings. It is nice to assume that if you gave someone a ticket and they won millions that they would be good people and share some of the winnings with you. The reality is that 9 out of 10 times they won't. This method also keeps your sanity so that you don't sit up at night agonizing over the fact that you bought the once in a lifetime winning ticket and gave it away and now you have nothing. 

I bought a ticket for the Powerball today with my brother and we both signed it. If it wins, we split the money evenly, end of story, no arguments, no issues. 

We all come on this board because we play the lottery and want to win it, don't tell me that if you gave someone a ticket and it won millions and then they told you to take a hike and were giving you nothing you would just shrug your shoulders and walk away, you would be livid and would smash everything in sight.

Can you say CHEAPSKATE?

temptustoo's avatartemptustoo

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Feb 8, 2012

Ahh Jeeeze.

I'd tell ya to keep it.

Unfrigginbelievable.

I agree 100 percent .   What a moron ....I Agree!

faber98

the only thing worse than joining a lottery pool is buying a lottery ticket and give it to someone as a gift. if you sign it before you gift it you look like a cheap chump. if you don't sign it and it wins, and the recipient doesn't give you a slice (at least 45%) then you will feel like a chump. it is by far the worst gift you could ever give anyone (stocking stuffers or whatever) just give them the cash and let them buy their own ticket if you must.

savagegoose's avatarsavagegoose

seems to be a lot of heated opinion on the   buy a ticket as a gift  subject. and although i do do it, I put their name on the back.

i gotta say who is right in any of this? people have their opionins and values, and we all think ours are right. for venom the right thing to do is what he does., for me the right thing is what I do, and for Faber the right thing is give cash.

lets not get caught in absolutes, for ea of us there is acceptable and unacceptable. as long as we make it clear when people  cross the line in our lives. well all get along.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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I don't know what state you live in, but in Texas, they will only pay out to one individual, or actually cut one check. They will not split a payout among 2 or more people.

If you are afraid a ticket you give away will be a winner, might as well not give it away in the first place.

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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Ah so you want part of the winnings in the gifts you give? I don't know about your family or pastor but I wouldn't want to be part of any of that. Its sneaky and down right dishonest. You want to appear generous so you pretend to give only you're not giving. 

Anyways the Florida guy who was denied the jackpot is just being greedy. Without evidence that the two have been buying tickets together and planned to share the jp should they win, his story has no legs to stand on. I'm glad the judge sent out this powerful message to the parasites out there lurking in the shadows and waiting.

B$Rizzle's avatarB$Rizzle

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Feb 8, 2012

Sign your tickets, I don't care if you buy them with your brother, your mother or the local church pastor. I sign all my tickets, even the ones I give as gifts. 

I may give a ticket as a gift, but I am <snip> sure not stupid enough to let you walk away with millions and I get nothing in the event the ticket turns out to be a winner. 

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Had to comment on this one...

 

With that kind of thinking, why do you just NOT give lottery tickets away to begin with? What?

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Feb 8, 2012

Do you have family members sign over half their future earnings if you give money as a gift just in case they end up rich as a result of that gift?

This guy must be taught the idea of goodwill - doing a good thing and expecting no direct benefits from it and being totally cool about it.  I mean, why bother giving gifts if you are so sleepless and stressful that those gifts might benefit others and you won't be able to cash in. Wow and I thought I have problems.

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Ya know B$Rizzle...I have to agree with you on that one.....How pathetic can one person be if they give a gift with strings....Going to do that on xmas gifts,wedding gifts, birthdays, valentines, anniversaries, retirements, graduations ????.....Talk about GORMLESSS !!!!!!  Chair

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