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Jury awards jailed illegal alien $750,000 lottery ticket

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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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Posted: March 17, 2012, 4:07 pm - IP Logged

Let's be real.  The guy broke US laws (by being here illegally) but did not break the Lottery Laws (which allow him to play regardless of his immigration status).  He followed the lottery laws and won big.  He deserves every penny of it.

Suppose the guy was perfectly American but also a, yet to be caught and jailed, drug dealer or murderer.  Does such an American criminal deserve a lottery win? 

Bottom line is that the illegal alien's crime is willfully working like a dog for measly pay to build the nation... while the American drug dealer/ murderer crime is killing and selling drugs that harm and destroy the nation. 

Both are criminals.  If you deny the illegal alien, you must also deny the US drug dealer.

Now, how many of you have criminal records, involve in crime or know someone who does?  Even drunk driving is crime.

Welcome to Lottery Post, LincolnAbe, and Best of Luck to you!LepYes NodThumbs Up 

 

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    Posted: March 18, 2012, 3:23 am - IP Logged

    I remeber this story.  I'm glad Cultoc won.  His Boss was trying to take advantage of him.  Also glad he won't have most of it eaten up in attornry fees.  Maybe he can now do what he needs to do to come back legally.

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      Posted: March 18, 2012, 3:23 am - IP Logged

      I remember this story.  I'm so glad Cultoc won and i'm glad attorney fees won't eat up his winnings.  The Boss was taking advantage of him because he was here illegally.

        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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        Posted: March 18, 2012, 3:21 pm - IP Logged

        I remember this story.  I'm so glad Cultoc won and i'm glad attorney fees won't eat up his winnings.  The Boss was taking advantage of him because he was here illegally.

        Well if this is such a great story and you're so happy for him, shouldn't we just send the Border Patrol home and open up the gates and just let them all flood in here for the same opportunity?

        Or do you only like the ones that are smart enough to elude the Border Patrol?

        Don't be a hater.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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          sully16's avatar - sharan
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          Posted: March 19, 2012, 9:59 am - IP Logged

          Let's be real.  The guy broke US laws (by being here illegally) but did not break the Lottery Laws (which allow him to play regardless of his immigration status).  He followed the lottery laws and won big.  He deserves every penny of it.

          Suppose the guy was perfectly American but also a, yet to be caught and jailed, drug dealer or murderer.  Does such an American criminal deserve a lottery win? 

          Bottom line is that the illegal alien's crime is willfully working like a dog for measly pay to build the nation... while the American drug dealer/ murderer crime is killing and selling drugs that harm and destroy the nation. 

          Both are criminals.  If you deny the illegal alien, you must also deny the US drug dealer.

          Now, how many of you have criminal records, involve in crime or know someone who does?  Even drunk driving is crime.

          Why yes I agree, lets be real.

          First of all your only post is in defense of people who break our laws, and your from Nevada, hmmmm, Are you here illegally ?

          Lets be real, Do you pay taxes ?

          Because anyone who is getting their paycheck chopped to pieces is sick of the cost involved with illegals.

          Let be even more real

          12 US citizens a day are killed by illegals committing violent crimes.

          13 US citizens are killed by illegals driving drunk ( by the way your hero in this story is sitting in jail for drunk driving )

          80% of illegal drugs are brought in by heavily armed illegals, the war zone at the border surely must bother you.

          Emergency rooms in some of these areas are flooded with gunshot wounds, stabbings, anchor babies, imported diseases, thanks to illegals.

          Tuberculosis is real

          Polio is real

          Cholera is real

          Leperosy is real

          chicken pox, smallpox, measels, mumps, and rubella are all real.

          Now you say, we are all immunized, well not everyone, and immunizations don't last forever, sometimes you need a booster. Not everyone knows this.

          98% of illegals have not been immunized.

          Americans should not have to stand in line behind illegals in the hospital, or wait on emergency services such as ambulance, police or fire services because illegals are tieing these services up. Don't think it happens, come to Detroit.

          Since we are being real

          Real is , 8 American children a day are victims of sex crimes committed by illegals.

          Welfare, medicine, education, law enforcement dollars are running in the billions, because of illegals.

          Lets be real, I am real sick of illegals coming here demanding we treat them better, go back to your own country and make demands.

          People who come here legally, most often open business, hire americans, they work from sun up to sun down , pay taxes, are involved with the betterment of the community.

          Not all, some come here set up shop and bring family over, and get them into our welfare system. This practice needs to stop as well.

          It is not okay to pat down Americans and x-ray us at airports, treat us like criminals, only to let these parasites run willy nilly across our borders.

          Our tax dollars pay for Bullsh*t at the airports, our tax dollars pay for the parasites,

          ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !

          Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

          For a lead role in a cage?

           

                                                      From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

            DC81's avatar - batman39
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            Posted: March 19, 2012, 12:25 pm - IP Logged

            Give him the money after subtracting every dime the state has spent on him, including deportation costs, fine him (if there's one) and send him back.

            You can't predict random.

              lincolnAbe's avatar - chipmunk
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              Posted: March 20, 2012, 6:30 am - IP Logged

              @ Sully16,

              Why yes I agree, lets be real.

               

              First of all your only post is in defense of people who break our laws, and your from Nevada, hmmmm, Are you here illegally ? No but none of your business.  I’m AMERICAN.  It’s not the only post, it’s the first one… which could be on any topic… I’m sure you agree.

               

              Lets be real, Do you pay taxes ? Yes.  More than you (fact).

               

              Because anyone who is getting their paycheck chopped to pieces is sick of the cost involved with illegals. I blame my high tax bill on the recent wars in Iraq and elsewhere.  Also on Obama bailouts.  You have any idea on how much we spend on just those two vs. on illegals?

               

              Let be even more real

               

              12 US citizens a day are killed by illegals committing violent crimes. How many are killed by American citizens?

               

              13 US citizens are killed by illegals driving drunk ( by the way your hero in this story is sitting in jail for drunk driving ) How many are killed by drunk US citizens?  And that chap is not my hero.

               

              80% of illegal drugs are brought in by heavily armed illegals, the war zone at the border surely must bother you.  Lordy Lordy. If we American citizens just said NO to drugs, the drug trade would fizzle out.  It is us Americans who ultimately finance the drug business.  We just love getting high.

               

              Emergency rooms in some of these areas are flooded with gunshot wounds, stabbings, anchor babies, imported diseases, thanks to illegals.

               

              Tuberculosis is real

               

              Polio is real

               

              Cholera is real

               

              Leperosy is real

               

              chicken pox, smallpox, measels, mumps, and rubella are all real.

               

              Now you say, we are all immunized, well not everyone, and immunizations don't last forever, sometimes you need a booster. Not everyone knows this.

               

              98% of illegals have not been immunized.

               

              Americans should not have to stand in line behind illegals in the hospital, or wait on emergency services such as ambulance, police or fire services because illegals are tieing these services up. Don't think it happens, come to Detroit.

              Wow Sully!  Which disease almost wiped out the entire Native American population way back?  How?

               

              Since we are being real

               

              Real is , 8 American children a day are victims of sex crimes committed by illegals.  How many by Americans?

               

              Welfare, medicine, education, law enforcement dollars are running in the billions, because of illegals. Did you graduate high school?  Seriously, did you?

               

              Lets be real, I am real sick of illegals coming here demanding we treat them better, go back to your own country and make demands.   I agree with you on this one.  They should go back.

               

              People who come here legally, most often open business, hire americans, they work from sun up to sun down , pay taxes, are involved with the betterment of the community.  I agree

               

              Not all, some come here set up shop and bring family over, and get them into our welfare system. This practice needs to stop as well.  99% of people on welfare are able bodied Americans.  More whites than blacks (I’m white).

               

              It is not okay to pat down Americans and x-ray us at airports, treat us like criminals, only to let these parasites run willy nilly across our borders.   You are going thru x-rays because of 9/11… brought upon by legal US residents… not poor folks scaling fences.

               

              Our tax dollars pay for Bullsh*t at the airports, our tax dollars pay for the parasites,  My tax dollars pay for the war and bailouts.

               

              ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !  I agree.  Now let’s go back to topic.

                sully16's avatar - sharan
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                Posted: March 20, 2012, 11:31 am - IP Logged

                @ Sully16,

                Why yes I agree, lets be real.

                 

                First of all your only post is in defense of people who break our laws, and your from Nevada, hmmmm, Are you here illegally ? No but none of your business.  I’m AMERICAN.  It’s not the only post, it’s the first one… which could be on any topic… I’m sure you agree.

                 

                Lets be real, Do you pay taxes ? Yes.  More than you (fact).

                 

                Because anyone who is getting their paycheck chopped to pieces is sick of the cost involved with illegals. I blame my high tax bill on the recent wars in Iraq and elsewhere.  Also on Obama bailouts.  You have any idea on how much we spend on just those two vs. on illegals?

                 

                Let be even more real

                 

                12 US citizens a day are killed by illegals committing violent crimes. How many are killed by American citizens?

                 

                13 US citizens are killed by illegals driving drunk ( by the way your hero in this story is sitting in jail for drunk driving ) How many are killed by drunk US citizens?  And that chap is not my hero.

                 

                80% of illegal drugs are brought in by heavily armed illegals, the war zone at the border surely must bother you.  Lordy Lordy. If we American citizens just said NO to drugs, the drug trade would fizzle out.  It is us Americans who ultimately finance the drug business.  We just love getting high.

                 

                Emergency rooms in some of these areas are flooded with gunshot wounds, stabbings, anchor babies, imported diseases, thanks to illegals.

                 

                Tuberculosis is real

                 

                Polio is real

                 

                Cholera is real

                 

                Leperosy is real

                 

                chicken pox, smallpox, measels, mumps, and rubella are all real.

                 

                Now you say, we are all immunized, well not everyone, and immunizations don't last forever, sometimes you need a booster. Not everyone knows this.

                 

                98% of illegals have not been immunized.

                 

                Americans should not have to stand in line behind illegals in the hospital, or wait on emergency services such as ambulance, police or fire services because illegals are tieing these services up. Don't think it happens, come to Detroit.

                Wow Sully!  Which disease almost wiped out the entire Native American population way back?  How?

                 

                Since we are being real

                 

                Real is , 8 American children a day are victims of sex crimes committed by illegals.  How many by Americans?

                 

                Welfare, medicine, education, law enforcement dollars are running in the billions, because of illegals. Did you graduate high school?  Seriously, did you?

                 

                Lets be real, I am real sick of illegals coming here demanding we treat them better, go back to your own country and make demands.   I agree with you on this one.  They should go back.

                 

                People who come here legally, most often open business, hire americans, they work from sun up to sun down , pay taxes, are involved with the betterment of the community.  I agree

                 

                Not all, some come here set up shop and bring family over, and get them into our welfare system. This practice needs to stop as well.  99% of people on welfare are able bodied Americans.  More whites than blacks (I’m white).

                 

                It is not okay to pat down Americans and x-ray us at airports, treat us like criminals, only to let these parasites run willy nilly across our borders.   You are going thru x-rays because of 9/11… brought upon by legal US residents… not poor folks scaling fences.

                 

                Our tax dollars pay for Bullsh*t at the airports, our tax dollars pay for the parasites,  My tax dollars pay for the war and bailouts.

                 

                ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !  I agree.  Now let’s go back to topic.

                We can agree we are both sick of taxes period.

                I am not going to compare W2's, but, I am not complaining about a couple thousand dollars, we paid more than 20, more came out of my husbands check than I made. I feel bad for him, he works from 5am until 3:30 pm mon-fri...sat and sun 5-2, Yes we are fortunate to have all the overtime, but most of it got taken away, and it's not coming back, we can't itemize, all of our stuff is paid for.

                We spent our 20's, 30's and 40's , working our asses off to pay for our stuff, we went without stuff we wanted,

                 to make sure we had stuff we needed, we put big chunks in to a 401k, only to have that taken away.

                we thought that at this point in our life we could relax a little, nope, the future is not certain, we still have everyday bills, property taxes, and a kid who will go to college.

                We figured out a long time ago, Social Security will most likely not be there for us, so we continue to work and go without to save for our old age.

                I agee on the wars and the bailouts, I also have a nephew in the Marines and one in the Navy, I AM AFRAID THAT ONE DAY WE WILL GET THE NEWS THAT ONE OF MY BROTHERS WILL HAVE TO BURY ONE OF THEIR KIDS.

                I agree, Americans love to kill other Americans, sad, very sad, still doesn't make it okay or in any way excuse the illegals, nor does the drug problem. You can go round and round on the drug issue, still not okay for people to bring drugs into this country, yes the cost is high.

                I am Chippewa, so I am very aware that smallpox, cholera and bullets, lots and lots of bullets, helped to diminish our numbers.

                I don't have a problem with metal detectors at airports, the x-ray machines have only shown up in the last 2 years , and by a small coincidence, everyone in Obamas administration had stock in this company, the contract was awarded to a relative of one of his appointees.

                It will never be okay to pat down a 3 year old in a wheelchair, or force a mother to show how a breast pump works, if they were truly concerned for our saftey, they would stop the poor folk from scaling the fence, because we don't know who they are or where they are from.

                Our tax dollars are wasted on all kinds of stupid stuff, critter crossings and turtle tunnels, war, bailouts, sweetheart deals, and entitlements.

                We did everything the right way, and I am angry at how much we have lost, I owned my own business, I owned a bingo hall, when the casinos in Detroit opened up, I couldn't compete with the higher prizes  so I had to close, I licked my wounds, got off my ass and got a job, that paid a tiny fraction of what I made, I did so because I got a kid to feed, and because we were not sure if my husbands job would last. Even after 28 years, his company could close the doors tomarrow, I vent because I see so many who don't try at all.

                I guess I am tired of everyone with their hand out looking for free and easy.

                Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                For a lead role in a cage?

                 

                                                            From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"