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Kansas Mega Millions winner claims jackpot anonymously

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Posted: April 8, 2012, 6:32 pm - IP Logged

fabre98,

Read this:

For all of its promise, instant riches come with a price, starting with the immediate barrage of calls from relatives and distant friends eager for a handout. Never mind the need to hire specialists to address tax implications and craft a disciplined investment strategy that could avoid the fate of past lottery winners who’ve spectacularly burned through vast fortunes or found they were better off before they struck it rich.

“I’m so happy I’m seeing this. This is exactly what they should do,” said Susan Bradley, a Florida certified financial planner and founder of the Sudden Money Institute, a resource center for new money recipients such as lottery winners. “Some people are really afraid — scared of blowing it, losing who they are and being taken advantage of. Hopefully they’re getting their ducks in a row and starting to settle into the magnitude of the experience.

“If you understood how unbelievably complicated this is, you might not play,” she added. “That’s not to say that winning is a bad thing. (But with a jackpot), all your old problems are over and all your new ones are just starting.”

Some states, such as Kansas, don’t require winners to reveal their identities. Even in those that do, winners can find ways to stay out of the public eye.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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    real suprising that susie a certified financial planner is encouraging people to sign on with her (or another financial planner) if they win. as far as kansas winners in the past remaining anonymous. i'm sure they were much smaller jackpot winners than this alleged winner. most of you won't even play unless it's 100 million or more (talk about greed). which suprises me more that you don't want to know who won. you seem to want to protect the winner (from nothing) rather than actually verify that there was a winner. so if you buy a church raffle ticket for 100.00 and the prize is a new car lets say. you are ok with not knowing who won if the winner had that option. maybe because they would want to sell the car instead of keeping it and lo and behold they would get 25,000.00 and everyone would be after them if they knew. no one seems to be able to refute the fact that people in kansas are going to find out who these winners are somehow. it only takes one curious person to spill the beans to the world. these winners are putting there trust in lawyers and financial planners who advised them (probably) to remain anonymous. i wonder why? they are staying up nights trying to figure out a way to get a generous slice out of this you can bet your bottom dollar on that. just remember all lawyers are liars and many a crooked financial planner has come down the pike.

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      Posted: April 8, 2012, 8:48 pm - IP Logged

      Brad, IS this NOT the United States of America and aren't we afforded freedom of choice ?? Last I knew NOT EVERYTHING is in the Constitution or has to be run by the U.S. Government, so that everybody has a fair shot at everything. If you don't think that each state is capable of doing things differently for the common good of all then perhaps you need a minor lesson in history. By your statement of

       "This is stupid and not a level playing field."....................Lets take a look at the Multi state lottery system being found 40 + years ago(formerly known as NASPL)......

      Congress allows for the states to have an agreement because of the following:"

      Congressional consent to an interstate compact need not be explicit. The constitution does not state when the consent of congress shall be given, whether it shall precede or may follow the compact made, or whether it shall be express or may be implied."

      You can find this on interstate compacts which also covers lotteries



      "In the United States all lotteries are operated by state governments, which have granted themselves the sole right to do so. In other words, they are monopolies that do not allow any commercial lotteries to compete against them. The profits from U.S. lotteries are used solely to fund government programs."

      ALSO:  "During the 1980s lottery officials realized that multistate lotteries could offer higher payoffs than single-state lotteries because the costs of running one game could be shared. The Multi-State Lottery Association (MUSL) was formed in 1987 as a nonprofit association of states offering lotteries."

      With that being said, it means the states have the right to impose privacy laws on lotteries/tickets puchased in their repective state. Having a choice is part of the freedoms this country was founded upon.

      What is your point? it is still stupid. I think you need a history lesson because the government does not give a crap what is best for anyone except for themselves. My life is not so bland that I sit around and study government history. The government is nothing but a corrupt system only interested in how much it can take from others, and can't even offer the same rules for everyone.


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        People who want anonymity aren't being hoarders, they're being cautious.  Charity doesn't work if it's done under pressure.  It only has value when the person chooses what and who to give the money to.  Privacy doesn't equal greed.  But it does equal better control over the winnings and a less likely ability to squander them. 

        Most people who win the lottery want to continue living a normal life after the lottery.  Being anonymous is the best way to make it possible.

        being cautious with a 100 million dollars? if you invested it all you could probably get 8 or 9 million in interest each year. do you think they could get by on that. as far as charity goes if they stay in their town how are they going to feel if their fire station can't operate a full strength because of budget cuts. or school programs have to be eliminated because of funds. wouldn't they feel good about helping and gaining the respect of the townspeople instead of hidiing in their house to protect their "privacy". this particular couple doesn't seem to be the type who would "squander" it do you think? you cannot go back to a normal life after a score like this unless you generously share. as it is their financial planners are going to have a field day with this couple. they are no match for a battery of lawyers who will tell them anything to gain control of a large portion of their cash. plain and simple they won too much for any normal type person to handle. these lotteries were never intended to have jackpots this large. no one is satisfield with 3 or 4 million anymore. they won't even play the state lotteries with jackpots that size. you all want to big payday and the headaches that go with it. in reality they should start a employee owned town factory to employ anyone who wants to work which would benefit their town in the long run. but they won't because their financial planners will stuff into the magellan fund or some foreign oil stock so they can make a ton off commissions. good luck to these two in their new private life with cash under their floorboards.

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          faber98,

          Ironic that you would criticize a financial planner when part of their job is to protect jackpot winners from people like you. Granted there are bad ones but given the choicde I'd go with a good one over you every single time.

          You seem to have a penchant for the redistribution of other people's wealth.

          It's also rather amazing that you think you know so much about other people here and how they play.

          I thinik you actually have a very unhealthy jealousy about other people winning and an obsessive desire to know who won.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            faber98,

            Ironic that you would criticize a financial planner when part of their job is to protect jackpot winners from people like you. Granted there are bad ones but given the choicde I'd go with a good one over you every single time.

            You seem to have a penchant for the redistribution of other people's wealth.

            It's also rather amazing that you think you know so much about other people here and how they play.

            I thinik you actually have a very unhealthy jealousy about other people winning and an obsessive desire to know who won.

            C.T. Forget about trying to educate those who have closed minds and set ways. You can not ever fix the nebbish or the gormless of our society. No No No matter how many facts or how much evidence you present. They have been brainwashed into tunnel vision and its  become their only lifestyle choice.  Best of luck in your next jackpot purchase.  Patriot

            Stay Positive, Believe and good things will come your way

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              being cautious with a 100 million dollars? if you invested it all you could probably get 8 or 9 million in interest each year. do you think they could get by on that. as far as charity goes if they stay in their town how are they going to feel if their fire station can't operate a full strength because of budget cuts. or school programs have to be eliminated because of funds. wouldn't they feel good about helping and gaining the respect of the townspeople instead of hidiing in their house to protect their "privacy". this particular couple doesn't seem to be the type who would "squander" it do you think? you cannot go back to a normal life after a score like this unless you generously share. as it is their financial planners are going to have a field day with this couple. they are no match for a battery of lawyers who will tell them anything to gain control of a large portion of their cash. plain and simple they won too much for any normal type person to handle. these lotteries were never intended to have jackpots this large. no one is satisfield with 3 or 4 million anymore. they won't even play the state lotteries with jackpots that size. you all want to big payday and the headaches that go with it. in reality they should start a employee owned town factory to employ anyone who wants to work which would benefit their town in the long run. but they won't because their financial planners will stuff into the magellan fund or some foreign oil stock so they can make a ton off commissions. good luck to these two in their new private life with cash under their floorboards.

              And people should mind their own business when it comes to other people's wealth!
              Everyone that wins should do as they  please with THEIR money and not worry about the Greed Of Envy people that demand that they "share".
              Too many childish cry babys whine about what others have!

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                Depends.

                If you have a brand spankin' new Aston Martin sitting in your driveway a week after you win, then going anonymous would be pointless.

                For a winner that invests the bulk of his money and continues on with normal day to day activities and does not go too far beyond his old means, it's definitely possible to remain anonymous even in a small Mid-Western town. That does not mean someone would have to remain stuck in a double-wide trailer home and not enjoy their money. Having that kind of money would afford someone the time to come up with a good solid plan for the future. (ex. plan on starting up an in demand business or a franchise, to create some local jobs. If folks ask where you got the money to do it, just say you qualifed for a loan and nothing more. It's not exactly a lie, since technically you do qualify for a loan now. As profits increase, grow your business and expand it to multiple locations. No one is going to question you then if you go out and buy an Aston Martin or cut all the relatives a nice $10k Christmas check every year.)

                I remember reading an old story not long ago about lottery successes, where one lady continued to work at the volunteer organization that she loves being at. Every year she plays secret santa and randomly gifts a family member a nice sum of money. I am almost sure her relatives still have no idea where the money comes from every year.

                "For a winner that invests the bulk of his money and continues on with normal day to day activities and does not go too far beyond his old means,"

                I almost fell out of my chair laughing at that remark. What is the point of buying a lottery ticket with a $656 million prize if you're satisfied with your "normal" life?

                For all we know the winner could be a chicken plucker and you're suggesting they keep on plucking chickens, live in the same old house and drive the same old car while they have $100 million in the bank.

                "Having that kind of money would afford someone the time to come up with a good solid plan for the future."

                You could move into the penthouse of a 5 star hotel and come up with solid plan. Claiming an after taxes $100 million jackpot anonymous or not, they will never again live the same "normal" life they had before.

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                  right, sure. all these family and friends are going to keep their mouths shut. eventually or in about 7 minutes everyone in town will know and within 7 hours everyone in the state will know. there goes their anonominity right out the window. it would be the same for you so you might as well get it over with and not go through the hassle of claiming it anonymously. and anyone who thinks friendship will be the same if you keep your money to yourself is delusional. "true friends" will harbor resentment and jealousy eventually. you will begin to see less and less of them.

                  The winners don't even have to stay in Kansas if they don't want to. Everyone in the state is not going to know  who it is because the people they know don't know everyone in the state.  It's just going to be rumor that goes around. Since they did not know show their faces, you do not know who they are. Good luck trying to find out.

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                    Come awwwwn KSp...we know it was you,,give up the goods !!!!!

                    I wish that would be amazing but sadly i live in south central kansas and didn't win a <snip> thing on my ticket 

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                      Yeah that "lol" gave it away!

                      Nope but i can still dream. Maybe lightening will strike twice like with Rhode Island and Kansas will get the Powerball and i will be holding the winning ticketSmile

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                        All I know is that if Iowa allowed winners to collect their winnings anonymously,thats how I would collect when I win.

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                          All I know is that if Iowa allowed winners to collect their winnings anonymously,thats how I would collect when I win.

                          Same down here in FL. Cletu$..........besides, winning that kind of $$ I would be having 3 diff houses in different states....Spending a few months in each place, vacations in between.....

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                            Same down here in FL. Cletu$..........besides, winning that kind of $$ I would be having 3 diff houses in different states....Spending a few months in each place, vacations in between.....

                            I've complained about this to the folks at the Iowa Lottery,but my complaints just fall on deaf ears.They are convinced that making winners go though the dog & pony show is the ONLY way to go.

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                              Posted: April 9, 2012, 1:11 pm - IP Logged

                              I should have known this thread was not over 11 pages of congrats to the winner.

                              Just a back and forth with the bobosy twins sirbrad and faber98!! lol geeze!!Crazy

                                 
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