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Store owner tried to scam woman out of lottery winnings

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Posted: May 20, 2012, 10:39 am - IP Logged

Maybe, I just don't understand whats going on in the world. I know the economy is struggling but,
have things gotten so bad in this country that 10,000 dollars is worth a 20 year prison sentence?

I don't  think the 10,000 equates to 20 years, it's the act of altering a lottery ticket, which is akin to forgery,

the amount is secondary.

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    Sadly, this is the lesson that has been taught to us by bussness owners all across the United States : It's o.k. to try and screw someone out of money that is rightfully theirs.  Big corporations do it on a daily basis.  Greed is the new supply and demand mantra for business.  Lying and cheating is the new code of ethics.  Overcharge the bejeezus out of your customer is the new mission statement.  We must all stop and give thanks to our government for setting the standard of business philosophy in the 21st century.

    "We must all stop and give thanks to our government for setting the standard of business philosophy in the 21st century."

    Good Lord, that's a classic.

    Yeah, they set such a great example, let's all run our finances like them. When you're broke and under a mountain of debt from reckless spending, just borrow some more money and spend it even more recklessly! That'll solve the problem!

    LMAO.


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

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      Posted: May 20, 2012, 11:17 am - IP Logged

      Dollar to a donut he doesn't do any time.

      First offense, probation.

      Which sucks cuz it's doubtful this is his first offense, just the first time he got caught.

      I'd like to know how many winners he's cashed in his name previously.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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        Posted: May 20, 2012, 11:33 am - IP Logged

        Dollar to a donut he doesn't do any time.

        First offense, probation.

        Which sucks cuz it's doubtful this is his first offense, just the first time he got caught.

        I'd like to know how many winners he's cashed in his name previously.

        I would think that since the lottery department was studious enough to investigate the altered name they may have gone on to check the number of times this same guy has cashed in winning tickets in the past. It would be interesting to know how many winning tickets he's sent in since he started working at the store.

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          Posted: May 20, 2012, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

          Dollar to a donut he doesn't do any time.

          First offense, probation.

          Which sucks cuz it's doubtful this is his first offense, just the first time he got caught.

          I'd like to know how many winners he's cashed in his name previously.

          "I'd like to know how many winners he's cashed in his name previously."

          Or how about all the free to $100 tickets he stole without signing his name. He was caught because he scratched off the winner's name. With thousands of stores in each state, there is no telling how many people are told their unsigned $600 plus tickets are losers and a clerk keeps the ticket and signs their name. The tickets that don't require signing probably amount to thousands in thefts every day.

          The real problem is that many players don't even know the payoffs and the value of their tickets. Some will be happy if the clerk hands them $100 for matching 4 + 1. They are playing because of the multi-million jackpots and don't understand they can still can win something for matching less. It would be very difficult for these thieves to cheat, if every player knew the value of their tickets.

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            Posted: May 20, 2012, 12:07 pm - IP Logged

            These morons are so stupid they don't know how to use this as marketing to increase their business. We have a few smart stores that advertise winners with big signs and they sell alot of lotto. He's gonna love his lawyer and fine fees.

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              Posted: May 20, 2012, 12:21 pm - IP Logged

              I would think that since the lottery department was studious enough to investigate the altered name they may have gone on to check the number of times this same guy has cashed in winning tickets in the past. It would be interesting to know how many winning tickets he's sent in since he started working at the store.

              The ticket was checked because a signature was crossed out and not because the clerk cashed multiple tickets. Dateline NBC ran a story about clerks, store owners, and other people cashing multiple large value tickets and the majority of them were "ten percentors". They got a percentage for cashing the tickets from players who wanted to avoid paying taxes, back child support, or just didn't want to wait to collect.

              The act of cashing multiple tickets doesn't prove anything illegal was done.

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                Posted: May 20, 2012, 12:36 pm - IP Logged

                A job well done by the Louisiana Lottery in helping to track down Fong Kwok for what is rightfully hers, and in denying what appears to be a verifiable seasoned, veteran, well experienced lottery winnings' thief, Alhinda, a day of victory in con and private Kleptocracy.

                I hope that the Louisiana Lottery would be further inspired and encouraged to look into their records for possible past fraudulent claims that Alhindi may have made with or without success.

                It is a Good day for Fong Kwok, and her victory is also a small victory for so many countless lottery players whose prizes had been swindled away by a few malicious Canadian and USA lottery retailers over the years.

                Since the Louisiana lottery will be paying out money to Fong Kwok satisfied that the money is hers, after its security investigations, I suppose that, what is left to be done is for the balance of the process of the law to be completed, and I  hope that this process ensures that greedy Alhindi with 4 retail business opportunities, gets the maximum time of 20 years that the law could possibly impose on him, on this matter.

                 

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                  Posted: May 20, 2012, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

                  Stupid people should be banned form playing lottery.

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                    Posted: May 20, 2012, 2:37 pm - IP Logged

                    Louisiana Lottery able to track down real winner

                    A woman was almost scammed out of her lottery winnings by the convenience store where she bought the ticket, according to Louisiana Lottery officials. But a simple step helped authorities find the rightful winner.

                    Fong Kwok hasn't had a day off in four years. So when she found out she won $10,000 in the Louisiana Lottery she was ecstatic.

                    "That day I just was so happy," said Kwok, who owns Bamboo Restaurant in New Orleans East. "I could not believe winning."

                    Kwok's Mega Millions ticket matched four of the five white ball numbers, plus the yellow Mega Ball number in the April 13th drawing.

                    But Kwok said a worker at the nearby convenience store where she bought the ticket, Downman Center, first told her she won only $3.

                    Lottery officials said one of the men who owns the convenience store, Raed Alhindi, 31, tried to cash in Kwok's winning ticket last month.

                    Kwok could have been swindled out of her $10,000 win if she hadn't done one thing, said lottery officials. She always writes her name on the back.

                    Officials said Alhindi crossed off Kwok's name on the back of the lottery ticket and wrote his own instead. But using special technology, lottery officials were able to lift his pen marks to reveal Kwok's original signature. They eventually tracked her down.

                    Kwok said she often bought lottery tickets from the Downman Center convenience store. Now, Alhindi has been arrested and charged with trying to cash an altered lottery ticket. Each of his four stores have been suspended from selling lotto tickets.

                    "I could not believe [it]," said Kwok. "Because every time I go over there, they are very nice."

                    But while Kwok is surprised, she's not angry.

                    "I [am] just very happy I got my money," said Kwok. "But that's all. That [is] okay."

                    Kwok bought another Mega Millions ticket Thursday. She said she'll always sign the back.

                    Her next order of business is to finally take a vacation.

                    "I need to go to Disneyland or SeaWorld," smiled Kwok.

                    Kwok plans to cash in her lottery ticket Monday at the lottery office in Metairie. No one from Downman Center convenience store was able to comment. Altering a lottery ticket is a felony. Alhindi could face up to 20 years in prison.

                    Fong Kwok hasn't had a day off in four years. So when she found out she won $10,000 in the Louisiana Lottery she was ecstatic.

                    "That day I just was so happy," said Kwok, who owns Bamboo Restaurant in New Orleans East. "I could not believe winning."

                    Kwok's Mega Millions ticket matched four of the five white ball numbers, plus the yellow Mega Ball number in the April 13th drawing.

                    But Kwok said a worker at the nearby convenience store where she bought the ticket, Downman Center, first told her she won only $3.

                     

                    Maybe I missed something somewhere in the story, did she know she'd won $10,000 when she took the ticket to the store or did she find out about her win after the lottery commission tracked her down?

                    I suspect that she really doesn't fully understand the payout process of the Mega Million if she checked her numbers and didn't realize that she had a ticket worth ten grand and just handed it over to a store clerk.

                    I am happy to hear that she had the forsight to write her name on the back of her ticket.

                    I am also glad to see that the thief was caught and hopefully the courts will throw the whole book at him.

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                      Posted: May 20, 2012, 2:49 pm - IP Logged

                      Fong Kwok hasn't had a day off in four years. So when she found out she won $10,000 in the Louisiana Lottery she was ecstatic.

                      "That day I just was so happy," said Kwok, who owns Bamboo Restaurant in New Orleans East. "I could not believe winning."

                      Kwok's Mega Millions ticket matched four of the five white ball numbers, plus the yellow Mega Ball number in the April 13th drawing.

                      But Kwok said a worker at the nearby convenience store where she bought the ticket, Downman Center, first told her she won only $3.

                       

                      Maybe I missed something somewhere in the story, did she know she'd won $10,000 when she took the ticket to the store or did she find out about her win after the lottery commission tracked her down?

                      I suspect that she really doesn't fully understand the payout process of the Mega Million if she checked her numbers and didn't realize that she had a ticket worth ten grand and just handed it over to a store clerk.

                      I am happy to hear that she had the forsight to write her name on the back of her ticket.

                      I am also glad to see that the thief was caught and hopefully the courts will throw the whole book at him.

                      Hey, PERDUE,

                      I think she was just one of those people who hands the tickets to the clerks to check for her and trusts them to tell her the truth.

                      Bad idea.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: May 20, 2012, 2:49 pm - IP Logged

                        Fong Kwok hasn't had a day off in four years. So when she found out she won $10,000 in the Louisiana Lottery she was ecstatic.

                        "That day I just was so happy," said Kwok, who owns Bamboo Restaurant in New Orleans East. "I could not believe winning."

                        Kwok's Mega Millions ticket matched four of the five white ball numbers, plus the yellow Mega Ball number in the April 13th drawing.

                        But Kwok said a worker at the nearby convenience store where she bought the ticket, Downman Center, first told her she won only $3.

                         

                        Maybe I missed something somewhere in the story, did she know she'd won $10,000 when she took the ticket to the store or did she find out about her win after the lottery commission tracked her down?

                        I suspect that she really doesn't fully understand the payout process of the Mega Million if she checked her numbers and didn't realize that she had a ticket worth ten grand and just handed it over to a store clerk.

                        I am happy to hear that she had the forsight to write her name on the back of her ticket.

                        I am also glad to see that the thief was caught and hopefully the courts will throw the whole book at him.

                        Excellent question! Without her detected signature, probably would have gone under the radar. (For the clerk, Kwok and Lottery Commission).

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                          Posted: May 20, 2012, 3:04 pm - IP Logged

                          he altered the ticket and basically erased her name and resigned it?   that is ballsy

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                            Posted: May 20, 2012, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

                            Someone so at ease with telling a customer that a $10,000 ticket is worth $3 sounds very practiced to me.  My guess is that few of these pathetic crooks are caught their first time.  Their past "successes" surely make them feel like they'll continue getting away with it.

                            yikes I hadn't even thought of that.  just think of the many (MANY) others who have previously been scammed by these crooks!

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                              Posted: May 20, 2012, 3:08 pm - IP Logged

                              Dollar to a donut he doesn't do any time.

                              First offense, probation.

                              Which sucks cuz it's doubtful this is his first offense, just the first time he got caught.

                              I'd like to know how many winners he's cashed in his name previously.

                              I Agree!  - that would be a fascinating statistic to post... how many reportable winners he  has had... and then allow a forensic accountant try to locate the winners (good luck with that though)