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West Virginia man wins $300,000 in Pick 4 lottery

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Posted: June 8, 2013, 5:51 pm - IP Logged

This is why I nevr play my own numbers for huge JP games, to scared they would come up.

2016 Won/Lost

EuroMillions / Spent: £22 / Won £0 / Total -£22

UK Lotto / Spent: £4 / Won: £0 / Total: -£4

2016 Total: -£24

Jan: -£22 Feb: £0 ~ Mar: £0 ~ April: £0 ~ May: £0 ~ June: £0 ~ July: £2

 

EuroMillions = £2 Line / Played: x11 [old price] 

EuroMillions = £2.50 Line / Played: x0

UK Lotto = £2 Line / Played x2

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    Congrats Mr. Hughes.  Keep in mind it is not 365 days that he plays, since West Va does not play on a Sunday.

    Ah yes, you're correct, I missed the no draws on Sunday part. Revised my previous post below, and also added the small wins that Stack pointed out, his profit is even better:

    WV Daily 4 started 2/26/87, 9598 days, 8227 play days (6 days a week Mon-Sat) until 6/6/13 draw, where he won 60x str $5000 + 1x str/box $2600 for total $302,600.

    But analysis of the past amounts and his betting pattern suggests that for 3/14/06 and 1/12/08 draws he got 10x str $5000 + 1x str/box $2600 for total $52,600.

    Playing 1-2-3-4 every day and 60 tickets each day conflicts with past amounts, so I would assume he was playing less in the past, $11 instead of $61.

    Assuming $11 from 2/26/87 through 1/12/08, 6537 play days at $11 equals $71,907. And then upping his play amount to $61 after the 2nd win from 1/14/08 thru 6/6/13, 1690 play days at $61 equals $103,090.

    And also add $2800 in wins from 28 box-only hits from the $1 str/box bets along the way.

    Total spent: $174,997
    Total won: $410,600

    Not bad.
    Congrats Larry!


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      Posted: June 8, 2013, 5:59 pm - IP Logged

      This is why I nevr play my own numbers for huge JP games, to scared they would come up.

      Just commit to playing them every draw, no matter how much it costs......

      When you hit you can always say "This is the first time I ever played a lottery ticket".


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        Ah yes, you're correct, I missed the no draws on Sunday part. Revised my previous post below, and also added the small wins that Stack pointed out, his profit is even better:

        WV Daily 4 started 2/26/87, 9598 days, 8227 play days (6 days a week Mon-Sat) until 6/6/13 draw, where he won 60x str $5000 + 1x str/box $2600 for total $302,600.

        But analysis of the past amounts and his betting pattern suggests that for 3/14/06 and 1/12/08 draws he got 10x str $5000 + 1x str/box $2600 for total $52,600.

        Playing 1-2-3-4 every day and 60 tickets each day conflicts with past amounts, so I would assume he was playing less in the past, $11 instead of $61.

        Assuming $11 from 2/26/87 through 1/12/08, 6537 play days at $11 equals $71,907. And then upping his play amount to $61 after the 2nd win from 1/14/08 thru 6/6/13, 1690 play days at $61 equals $103,090.

        And also add $2800 in wins from 28 box-only hits from the $1 str/box bets along the way.

        Total spent: $174,997
        Total won: $410,600

        Not bad.
        Congrats Larry!

        I Agree! You make Jammy look like a crying little girl. Sad

          Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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          Posted: June 8, 2013, 6:08 pm - IP Logged

          Amazing.  You people will assume whatever it takes to make his record consistent with your beliefs.  The man said he played every day, AT LEAST $60 per day.

          And Ronnie316 is the most incredulous of all.  I guess that if he had a "Drip" investing account that after 10 years of decline, showed a -90% (negative) ROI, he would be unfazed if the day after the stock tanked to pennies, he could report that, ON THAT DAY, it went up from 20 cents to 30 cents, for a gain of $100 on a "Drip" of only $10.  Poor guy.  Smile

          The "snake oil" guys love him!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JH1N2Z4c_g

          I'm not pushing any beliefs, simply making an observation of fact: he did not play $60 straight on the two previous wins of $52,600. Could it be that on those two days alone, he only played $11 but every other day he played $61? Possible, but unlikely. Or did he play some other combination of 60 straight or box to get that exact amount of $52,600? Possible, but someone else can look it up, I just did the quick overall view.

          When he said he plays $60 each day, I assume he means in recent history of the past several years. You can debate whether that is an accurate intepretation of his interview answer or not, I have no problem with that.

          Also, for the record, I'm not a believer in systems nor do I in any way endorse his same number betting strategy. From the statistics and normal distribution, we can predict that most of the people that try to play this way will lose, and a few will lose big time. But a few will also profit, the small 0.1% of players.

          Larry seems to be one of the lucky 0.1% of players, that's all. And those are the ones you typically hear about in winners stories anyway.


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            Posted: June 8, 2013, 6:45 pm - IP Logged

            "Befief" is NOT Jammys strong suit.

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              Posted: June 8, 2013, 7:07 pm - IP Logged

              I play 40 tickets every midday for .50 a piece in pa. Its never been drawn str8 midday.
              I intended to cash in when it hits. 1234 Im all over it. Have been for a few months.

              ♠♣♥♦= $$$$

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                Posted: June 8, 2013, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

                $302,600.00 won, He must have had a box bet in there for the extra $100.00

                The 1234 combination has hit West Virginia 31 times with all available records at Lottey Post. So If he drops 50 cents box every day he picked up $3,100.00 in small change.

                Congrats to the winner.

                MAGA

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                  Posted: June 8, 2013, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

                  Best thing to do to maximize winnings and minimize losses over a long period is to not play the $61 on the days your numbers don't come up, then put it all down on the days they do. 

                   

                  Easy! Hurray!

                  Yep,

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                    Posted: June 8, 2013, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

                    This is why I nevr play my own numbers for huge JP games, to scared they would come up.

                    huh you don't want your #'s to come up? I am confused.

                    Also to the person who said he is in the whole after taxes he won big amounts twice before so it's not just the 300K now.

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                      Posted: June 8, 2013, 10:58 pm - IP Logged

                      I'm glad for the guy, who cares how much he spent and over analyzing his wins vs losses? Be happy for him and stay positive, keep doing your statistical analysis here and just know one day, you too will have a win like he did!

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                        There is no better investment for $61 dollars? On a bet that pays out 50% and after taxes your real rate of return is 35%.  This guy might be down $300000 betting this bet for as long as he has.

                        Exactly my thought.   I've been betting some numbers for 20 years, but I don't spend $61 a day.   If he's been playing for 10 years then he just about broke even.

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                          I'm glad for the guy, who cares how much he spent and over analyzing his wins vs losses? Be happy for him and stay positive, keep doing your statistical analysis here and just know one day, you too will have a win like he did!

                          Of course I'm happy for the guy.  It's just that Florida has a lot of people who are spending their rent and food money on the lottery and now we have Powerball and MegaMillions.   

                          Nothing wrong with having choices in a free society, but saying $61 a day on a pick-4 (and the same number) is a good investment is very misleading.  There was a woman who won a lot by doing the same thing.  I forget where she lived, but I remember reading about her on Lottery Post a few years ago.  This doesn't happen very often.

                          I'll probably break even when I finally hit my Florida Fantasy-5 numbers as they're lowering me into my grave. Yes Nod  OTOH, there might be 20 winners that night.   So I know what it's like to play the same numbers and hope for a big win.  I'm only saying that it's a little crazy to blow over $60 bucks a day on one pick-4 combination.  Just my opinion.   

                          Well, now he can start playing another number!  (or continue to play 1-2-3-4)

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                            Posted: June 9, 2013, 12:50 am - IP Logged

                            are you going to get $60.00 worth

                            helpmewin,

                            Naw. I 'went wild' and bet $1 Straight and $1 Straight Box. Usually I just bet Straight box.

                            Didn't hit.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                              WV Daily 4 started 2/26/87, 9598 days until 6/6/13 draw, where he won 60x str $5000 + 1x str/box $2600 for total $302,600.

                              But analysis of the past amounts and his betting pattern suggests that for 3/14/06 and 1/12/08 draws he got 10x str $5000 + 1x str/box $2600 for total $52,600.

                              Playing 1-2-3-4 every day and 60 tickets each day conflicts with past amounts, so I would assume he was playing less in the past, $11 instead of $61.

                              Assuming $11 from 2/26/87 through 1/12/08, 7626 days at $11 equals $83,886. And then upping his play amount to $61 after the 2nd win from 1/13/08 thru 6/6/13, 1972 days at $61 equals $120,292.

                              Total spent: $204,178
                              Total won: $407,800

                              Not bad.
                              Congrats Larry!

                              Well Jon D, we don't know for sure what this winner's expenditures were, but if we accept what you conjecture as exactly what transpired, what you [and others] have done is demonstrate how POSSIBLE it is to win large sums of money in the lootery, PURELY through the randomness of the draw.  I have demonstrated this in other ways with a simulation, but the results were dismissed here by people who believe they know better.  For those who haven't seen it, click HERE.

                              Stack47, this is your cue, right?  You will tell us yet again how no "serious" lottery player would play 5 $1 Quick Picks every day for 5 years.  And when you're through, you will then explain how reasonable and acceptable it was for Mr. Hughes to play 1234 for $60 [almost] every day for 26 years.  And when you're done doing that, I hope you will spend some time with this simulator and notice how the ROI for Quick Picks is the same as that for static self pick numbers.  Have fun!  It's RANDOM folks!

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