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NY deli owners stole $1M lottery ticket, cops say

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Posted: November 24, 2013, 12:30 pm - IP Logged

On the back of my lottery tickets it says to "sign the ticket immediately" and that makes it more difficult for anyone to cash a stolen ticket. If someone doesn't have enough common sense to know the value of the ticket or ask someone they trust that is knowledgeable, they won't even look at that back of the ticket.

Has anyone asked, why are the people who are to dumb, to high, or to drunk to know the value of the ticket, getting lots of these large jackpot winning tickets?

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    Posted: November 24, 2013, 12:43 pm - IP Logged

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      Posted: November 24, 2013, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

      It's getting to the point where is very difficult to feel sorry for people who buy lottery tickets and have no idea of the value. Makes me wonder how many players are cheated out of the full amount of winners under $100 and I'll bet these stores are making a killing on EBT cards.

      I Agree! There's something to be said for being a willing victim. Just asking to be stolen from, by trusting the clerk to tell you the value of your ticket. How can you not know? I don't get that.

      Like if you park your car in a shady area, nobody around, leave your car unlocked and your bag on the front seat. And your bag gets stolen. Yes, the criminal is wrong for stealing, but you are also wrong for creating that situation. If you work for a company and have company property and laptop and are so careless, you could be out of a job.

      I believe Gunny said it best:

      Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that don't you?
      Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir."
      Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "If it wasn't for dic*heads like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
      Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir."

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        I Agree! There's something to be said for being a willing victim. Just asking to be stolen from, by trusting the clerk to tell you the value of your ticket. How can you not know? I don't get that.

        Like if you park your car in a shady area, nobody around, leave your car unlocked and your bag on the front seat. And your bag gets stolen. Yes, the criminal is wrong for stealing, but you are also wrong for creating that situation. If you work for a company and have company property and laptop and are so careless, you could be out of a job.

        I believe Gunny said it best:

        Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that don't you?
        Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir."
        Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "If it wasn't for dic*heads like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
        Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir."

        Those terrorist clerks would take Pyles jelly donuts if they could. All they had to do was follow the rules and everyone gets paid. They would of got a free bonus.

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          Posted: November 24, 2013, 7:09 pm - IP Logged

          Those terrorist clerks would take Pyles jelly donuts if they could. All they had to do was follow the rules and everyone gets paid. They would of got a free bonus.

          Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I always assume the clerk is a crook, unless I have info otherwise.

          Assume the worst, but hope for the best. Better to be pleasantly surprised (by good clerk) than unpleasantly surpised by getting ripped off by a bad one.

          Like always being aware when you checkout what the prices are and what the change should be, so you're not shortchanged by a scheming/skimming clerk. Or if you ever learned motorcycle riding safety, you learn to always be on the lookout and expect people to cut you off and pull out in front of you. Because of that, you avoid many incidents. Also makes you a better car driver.

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            I Agree! There's something to be said for being a willing victim. Just asking to be stolen from, by trusting the clerk to tell you the value of your ticket. How can you not know? I don't get that.

            Like if you park your car in a shady area, nobody around, leave your car unlocked and your bag on the front seat. And your bag gets stolen. Yes, the criminal is wrong for stealing, but you are also wrong for creating that situation. If you work for a company and have company property and laptop and are so careless, you could be out of a job.

            I believe Gunny said it best:

            Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that don't you?
            Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir."
            Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "If it wasn't for dic*heads like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
            Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir."

            I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree. It would be one thing if an unlocked car was pilfered by a common thief. Another thing entirely if the unlocked car was pilfered by the guy paid to patrol the parking lot. People can't just open up shop and sell lottery tickets. They have to be licensed to do so. They are considered to have a certain amount of trustworthiness about them. Which is why when they pull stunts like this their licenses get revoked. Oftentimes permanently, because there is a betrayal of trust and the breaking of what having that license entails. It goes beyond the illegal activity of scamming a customer. 

            I consider a willing victim to be someone like Whitakker who left piles of money in his unlocked truck not once but twice and was outraged that he could actually get robbed like that twice...from the same place...outside a strip club.

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              I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree. It would be one thing if an unlocked car was pilfered by a common thief. Another thing entirely if the unlocked car was pilfered by the guy paid to patrol the parking lot. People can't just open up shop and sell lottery tickets. They have to be licensed to do so. They are considered to have a certain amount of trustworthiness about them. Which is why when they pull stunts like this their licenses get revoked. Oftentimes permanently, because there is a betrayal of trust and the breaking of what having that license entails. It goes beyond the illegal activity of scamming a customer. 

              I consider a willing victim to be someone like Whitakker who left piles of money in his unlocked truck not once but twice and was outraged that he could actually get robbed like that twice...from the same place...outside a strip club.

              No NoYou tell'em Teddi. I have a nagging suspicion that some of these guys who blame the victim, have a very high propensity, to commit crimes, or have actually committed crimes before. Indeed, they are just looking for justification, no matter how fickle, to justify their previous or future criminal endeavours .  A crime is a crime morons...quit blaming the victim, one of these days, you or your loved ones will succumb to the nefarious activities of the criminally inclined, then you get a taste of your own medicine. You don't have to be dumb or stupid to be a crime victim, but you have to be both, to be a criminal, or a victim basher. Thumbs Down

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                Posted: November 25, 2013, 8:10 am - IP Logged

                We have members here who admitted in another thread that if somebody in line in front of them dropped a hundred dollar bill they would pick it up and keep it.

                So the sleaze factor isn't limited only to lottery clerks. We have crooks right here in our own ranks.

                No segment of society has a monopoly on virtue.

                I like to there are still good, decent, honest people in this world who won't stab me in the back the second I turn around or drop my guard.

                But the truth is, I don't really trust anybody that I don't know anymore.

                And that's a shame.

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                  Posted: November 25, 2013, 9:21 am - IP Logged

                  A Long Island deli owner and his son were charged Saturday with scamming a customer out of a $1 million lottery ticket.

                  Nassau County police say a 34-year-old man who doesn't speak English bought the ticket Thursday at the Peninsula Deli & Grocery in Hempstead.

                  The man scratched off his card, saw that he was a winner and handed it to 26-year-old Karim Jaghab to get his winnings, police said.

                  The ticket was worth $1 million, but Jaghab gave the man $1,000 in cash and kept the ticket, police said.

                  The customer became suspicious and went back Friday, police said. They say Jaghab and his 57-year-old father, Nabil Jaghab, the owner of the deli, tried to give him $10,000 and told him not to go to the police, authorities said.

                  The customer went to police, who determined that he had won the $1 million jackpot.

                  The Jaghabs, of East Meadow, were arraigned Saturday on grand larceny charges. Each was ordered held on $7,500 bond. According to Newsday, their attorney said it was a simple mistake on a payout on a lottery machine.

                  A similar case unfolded in Suffolk County this year when two Riverhead gas station clerks and the brother of one of the clerks were charged with scamming a customer out of a $74,892 prize.

                  In that case, police said the clerks gave the man $774 in cash. As with the Nassau case, the victim was an immigrant who speaks no English.

                  In another case in Syracuse, two brothers who claimed a $5 million lottery ticket sold at their family's store were charged with scamming the winning ticket from a customer in 2006. One brother was sentenced this year to up to 25 years in prison for possessing the stolen ticket; both brothers were acquitted of conspiracy charges.

                  Nothing new...retailers are not allowed to pay more than $600... Ding dong something is wrong with that picture! Glad the caught them.. Many more to go...

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                    We have members here who admitted in another thread that if somebody in line in front of them dropped a hundred dollar bill they would pick it up and keep it.

                    So the sleaze factor isn't limited only to lottery clerks. We have crooks right here in our own ranks.

                    No segment of society has a monopoly on virtue.

                    I like to there are still good, decent, honest people in this world who won't stab me in the back the second I turn around or drop my guard.

                    But the truth is, I don't really trust anybody that I don't know anymore.

                    And that's a shame.

                    I dont know what's sleazier....the people who said that they would pick up the money and keep it themselves....or the people who pick it up and kee it themselves and then lie on here and say they wouldnt...what is scarier is the ones who say they wont do it but when it happens all that trustworthyness goes out the window...I guess that is why on money itself we print IN GOD WE TRUST....period

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                      Posted: November 25, 2013, 9:54 am - IP Logged

                      glad these aholes got caught . they will be joining the patel brothers in the cell Smash

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                        I'm originally from LI ,this is a sad story and I'm glad they got caught too! I never had a win even close to that but I had $500 win and other similiar wins on scratch off and had been told they were NOT A WINNER   BC  the scanner in the store was broke and the clerk had to scan it. Mind you this was when I first started playing and had no clue of the codes, so I was part to blame. But I feel the clerk was dishonest to keep my money and do that to me. When I was told what the certain codes meant by  others i was upset, but like I said it was my lack of knowlege of the game so I lost out.. However I did find out in this particular store, the clerk had a pattern of doing this to young girls like myself and elderly people, not cool.....And the store closed up within a few months . This is just one story ... So now I keep a list of the codes on my iPhone , and if the scanner don't work I won't do business in the store, period! NYL needs to check up on these stores that pull the plug on the scanners, esp on LI , very dishonest....

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                          Posted: November 25, 2013, 10:42 am - IP Logged

                          We have members here who admitted in another thread that if somebody in line in front of them dropped a hundred dollar bill they would pick it up and keep it.

                          So the sleaze factor isn't limited only to lottery clerks. We have crooks right here in our own ranks.

                          No segment of society has a monopoly on virtue.

                          I like to there are still good, decent, honest people in this world who won't stab me in the back the second I turn around or drop my guard.

                          But the truth is, I don't really trust anybody that I don't know anymore.

                          And that's a shame.

                          Sad but true Ridge.

                           This past weekend I was buying a birthday gift and the cashier gave me to much money back. I showed the clerk the money and she called her manager over. The manager said thank you for being honest, I told her she didn't have to thank me it was the right thing to do.

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                            Nothing new...retailers are not allowed to pay more than $600... Ding dong something is wrong with that picture! Glad the caught them.. Many more to go...

                            I Agree!  The claim by their attorney blaming it was a simple mistake by the lottery machine just went down in flames. Bash

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                              Posted: November 25, 2013, 12:04 pm - IP Logged

                              On the back of my lottery tickets it says to "sign the ticket immediately" and that makes it more difficult for anyone to cash a stolen ticket. If someone doesn't have enough common sense to know the value of the ticket or ask someone they trust that is knowledgeable, they won't even look at that back of the ticket.

                              Has anyone asked, why are the people who are to dumb, to high, or to drunk to know the value of the ticket, getting lots of these large jackpot winning tickets?

                              Since you are soooooo brillant and critical of the victims - Fate has placed "a spell on you". You will never win the lottery.    Just kidding.